Actually Pain Domination includes several self buffs. Combined with the scourge effect this gives corrs a bit of an additional kick.
Downside to that is you don't get the buffs as much playing solo since you need to heal someone else for that to happen.
I still think it's worth trying maybe combined with radiation or energy.
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i love my sonic pain. Don't forget you have access to a pet in patron arcs and if you are a vet you can get the +damage from heal on your vet buff pet.
Seems the board has concluded they like the set better for MMs but if you don't like being dependent on bodyguard and pets, a pain corrupter is a great way to go.
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I would think that it is best for corrs (non-solo) since the heals and stuff give yourself more damage. For MMs it's like only giving 1/8 of the buff and 1x the buff for the other powers.
I really like my Sonic/Pain
Perma 45% damage bonus(assult+WoP+sets)
95% tohit(Perma WoP)
55% resist smash/lthl 44% resist to Ice(patron +perma WoP)
18% resist to all(WoP Rocks!!)
Passive heal aura equates to over 25 hp a sec regen
AoE resist/defense debuff slotted with achilles proc helps a lot
I have to agree, Sonic/Pain is pretty darn nice. Took mine all the way to 50 and it was fun too!
It's a lot more soloable then it's "counterpart", Empathy. WoP is very nice, and healing someone gives you a nice damage buff. My only gripe with it is that your average idiot will criticize you for not healing sufficiently. But hey, get over them and play the set as it should be played... it is a SECONDARY set, after all.
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I really like my Sonic/Pain
Perma 45% damage bonus(assult+WoP+sets)
95% tohit(Perma WoP)
55% resist smash/lthl 44% resist to Ice(patron +perma WoP)
18% resist to all(WoP Rocks!!)
Passive heal aura equates to over 25 hp a sec regen
AoE resist/defense debuff slotted with achilles proc helps a lot
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This.
Very nice, I saw the buffs & debuffs in the set and they certainly look interesting. Perhaps I'll give it a shot on a corruptor as well as a Mastermind. Thanks everyone!
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I really like my Sonic/Pain
Perma 45% damage bonus(assult+WoP+sets)
95% tohit(Perma WoP)
55% resist smash/lthl 44% resist to Ice(patron +perma WoP)
18% resist to all(WoP Rocks!!)
Passive heal aura equates to over 25 hp a sec regen
AoE resist/defense debuff slotted with achilles proc helps a lot
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Mmm, interesting.
I know Sonic Blast is good and I've been wanting to try Energy Blast. Maybe I'll try Energy blast. I just know a lot of Brutes will hate me.
What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
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Not just Brutes, but Stalkers, MMs and Corruptors with anchor-based debuffs. I did NRG blast hero side twice, I would never touch it again.
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Not just Brutes, but Stalkers, MMs and Corruptors with anchor-based debuffs. I did NRG blast hero side twice, I would never touch it again.
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I should name myself Annoying Corruptor. hehe
Yeah, that's the reason why I haven't tried it. It does look pretty though.
What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
Electric/Pain is pretty sweet too.
All in all I like Pain Dom, and think it is a pretty solid Corr Secondary.
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does soothing aura work for the user of the power as well or only for his team mates?
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I'm almost terrified to post this...
My intention is not to start a flame war. (Period) Took a break from the game just prior to i13 and I had the chance to toy around with shields last night but didn't get to play with PD yet. I haven't logged on a villain yet so I'm curious, player's aura rocking? Seems like a bad [censored] set for a MM though, I can forsee an awesome Thug or Merc set. Can't really see it relavant for a Corruptor though, but thats coming from someone who likes to solo alot. Thanks.
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Pain is awesome for a soloing corruptor. And if you're aura rocking, you're doing it wrong.
Between having a 1.5 second tick heal aura toggle that slotted out restores about 90+ hp every 1.5 seconds, having to-hit and damage buffs from World of Pain, and having an aura heal to self heal as needed, not to mention an aoe debuff, you have quite a few decent soloing tools. and in teams it gets even better. Your rez buffs your damage. your self-damage heal buffs your damage. and you get Painbringer, which turns a teammate into a walking deathgod.
oh. and Fire/pain. Ftfw
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Is it really safe to use that PBAoE debuff though? Without any sort of enemy enemy debuff to ToHit, is it advisable to be in the thick of thigns like that?
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It ticks every 4 seconds not every 1.5 seconds
If it were every 1.5 seconds you would be at a regen rate of 60hp a second which is about what a well slotted regen scrapper gets bt running Dull Pain, Integration, Fast Healing and Health
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It ticks every 4 seconds not every 1.5 seconds
If it were every 1.5 seconds you would be at a regen rate of 60hp a second which is about what a well slotted regen scrapper gets bt running Dull Pain, Integration, Fast Healing and Health
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I'm almost terrified to post this...
My intention is not to start a flame war. (Period) Took a break from the game just prior to i13 and I had the chance to toy around with shields last night but didn't get to play with PD yet. I haven't logged on a villain yet so I'm curious, player's aura rocking? Seems like a bad [censored] set for a MM though, I can forsee an awesome Thug or Merc set. Can't really see it relavant for a Corruptor though, but thats coming from someone who likes to solo alot. Thanks.
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It's all IMO of course, but Pain is a much better MM set then Corr set.
It's kind of like Controllers and defenders. Where controller and defenders share a set, IMO, controllers get more out of it can are more helpful to teams in general then a defender with the same powerset. I'd rather have a controller emp or rad then a defender one, cause, the deference in % between the classes isn't all THAT much, and a controller bring control to the team, where as a defender get to do very subpar damage instead.
Same IMO is the case with MM's over Corrs. althought not as extream. Corrs do GOOD damage, and MM's are noticable weaker state wise. But, Where they share sets, the MM's are IMO better choices. Cause, you get the same powers, weaker yes, but you get an army of pets for damage. You can with a well built MM do 2 jobs at once. while your pets are doing the damage, you can be playing team support.
My Thugs/Pain MM is my FAV teaming villian i have. I can set my pets to either agressive/follow or Defenive/follow (BG mode) and focuse on team support. If the team has a brute sucking up all the argo, i put them to agressive so they'll attack. If i'm taking dmg, BG mode all the way.
And even when i'm solo, I get the full benefits of my secondary where a Corr won't. (for sets with ally only powers that is) Any ally only buffs can be used to make monsters out of your pets. This is much the same reason my Empath is also a fire controller... after lvl 32, i have 3 little pets i can fort, AB, and heal... so even solo, i get the most out of my emp powers.
Thats why i say, if your going to roll a Pain, roll an MM. You just get more for your money i think.
Again, this is all IMO. Take it for what it is.
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Only if you want to have it nerfed to hell and back. Being able to regen full health at level 50 in just over 20 seconds with an AoE heal for back up would make it way too potent and then comes the nerf nuke because nothing can be adjusted slowly around here.
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The KB in energy blast is not a problem if you teach yourself to AIM toward walls, corners, etc. Use KB to knock them TOWARD the brute, he will appreciate it.
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I'm almost terrified to post this...
My intention is not to start a flame war. (Period) Took a break from the game just prior to i13 and I had the chance to toy around with shields last night but didn't get to play with PD yet. I haven't logged on a villain yet so I'm curious, player's aura rocking? Seems like a bad [censored] set for a MM though, I can forsee an awesome Thug or Merc set. Can't really see it relavant for a Corruptor though, but thats coming from someone who likes to solo alot. Thanks.
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It's all IMO of course, but Pain is a much better MM set then Corr set.
It's kind of like Controllers and defenders. Where controller and defenders share a set, IMO, controllers get more out of it can are more helpful to teams in general then a defender with the same powerset. I'd rather have a controller emp or rad then a defender one, cause, the deference in % between the classes isn't all THAT much, and a controller bring control to the team, where as a defender get to do very subpar damage instead.
Same IMO is the case with MM's over Corrs. althought not as extream. Corrs do GOOD damage, and MM's are noticable weaker state wise. But, Where they share sets, the MM's are IMO better choices. Cause, you get the same powers, weaker yes, but you get an army of pets for damage. You can with a well built MM do 2 jobs at once. while your pets are doing the damage, you can be playing team support.
My Thugs/Pain MM is my FAV teaming villian i have. I can set my pets to either agressive/follow or Defenive/follow (BG mode) and focuse on team support. If the team has a brute sucking up all the argo, i put them to agressive so they'll attack. If i'm taking dmg, BG mode all the way.
And even when i'm solo, I get the full benefits of my secondary where a Corr won't. (for sets with ally only powers that is) Any ally only buffs can be used to make monsters out of your pets. This is much the same reason my Empath is also a fire controller... after lvl 32, i have 3 little pets i can fort, AB, and heal... so even solo, i get the most out of my emp powers.
Thats why i say, if your going to roll a Pain, roll an MM. You just get more for your money i think.
Again, this is all IMO. Take it for what it is.
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But since the MM doesn't do any Damage himself, all the self buffing potential of the set is wasted.
Fail argument.
Pain is definitely better on Corrs.
Wavicle, Energy/Energy Blaster, dinged 50 in Issue 4, summer of 2005.
@Wavicle, mostly on the Justice server.
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I'm almost terrified to post this...
My intention is not to start a flame war. (Period) Took a break from the game just prior to i13 and I had the chance to toy around with shields last night but didn't get to play with PD yet. I haven't logged on a villain yet so I'm curious, player's aura rocking? Seems like a bad [censored] set for a MM though, I can forsee an awesome Thug or Merc set. Can't really see it relavant for a Corruptor though, but thats coming from someone who likes to solo alot. Thanks.
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It's all IMO of course, but Pain is a much better MM set then Corr set.
It's kind of like Controllers and defenders. Where controller and defenders share a set, IMO, controllers get more out of it can are more helpful to teams in general then a defender with the same powerset. I'd rather have a controller emp or rad then a defender one, cause, the deference in % between the classes isn't all THAT much, and a controller bring control to the team, where as a defender get to do very subpar damage instead.
Same IMO is the case with MM's over Corrs. althought not as extream. Corrs do GOOD damage, and MM's are noticable weaker state wise. But, Where they share sets, the MM's are IMO better choices. Cause, you get the same powers, weaker yes, but you get an army of pets for damage. You can with a well built MM do 2 jobs at once. while your pets are doing the damage, you can be playing team support.
My Thugs/Pain MM is my FAV teaming villian i have. I can set my pets to either agressive/follow or Defenive/follow (BG mode) and focuse on team support. If the team has a brute sucking up all the argo, i put them to agressive so they'll attack. If i'm taking dmg, BG mode all the way.
And even when i'm solo, I get the full benefits of my secondary where a Corr won't. (for sets with ally only powers that is) Any ally only buffs can be used to make monsters out of your pets. This is much the same reason my Empath is also a fire controller... after lvl 32, i have 3 little pets i can fort, AB, and heal... so even solo, i get the most out of my emp powers.
Thats why i say, if your going to roll a Pain, roll an MM. You just get more for your money i think.
Again, this is all IMO. Take it for what it is.
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But since the MM doesn't do any Damage himself, all the self buffing potential of the set is wasted.
Fail argument.
Pain is definitely better on Corrs.
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Sure they can, but there damage is pointless. And what little you benefit from, what, 2 self buffs for using.. the rez and CM right? It pales in comparison to what a fully buffed and battleready team of thugs can do. INDEPENDELY of your actions, freeing you to support a team, or heck, add your own pedely damage to your pets damge. Thus STILL getting the FULL benerfit of Pains buffs where a corr can't. (solo)
MM Pain > Corr Pain. (again, IMO)
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I still say it's a weak argument.
The solo part is irrelevant.
The question is who gets more out of the powerset, not who does more damage, or who is better solo, or even who is better on a team. Corruptors actually benefit from the +Damage parts of the powers, MMs do not. That's my entire point.
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So I recently rejoined CoV after a break of more than a year and am really intrigued by pain domination. A friend of mine and i are doing a duo, with the whole level pact thing. He's a stone/shield brute and i decided to go with an ice/pain corr. We are just planning on PvE exclusively and so far, lvl 12, we are destroying everything. Any advice for me as to what exactly I should take with this set up would be greatly appreciated because I have forgotten way too much about this game in my absence.
I'm almost terrified to post this...
My intention is not to start a flame war. (Period) Took a break from the game just prior to i13 and I had the chance to toy around with shields last night but didn't get to play with PD yet. I haven't logged on a villain yet so I'm curious, player's aura rocking? Seems like a bad [censored] set for a MM though, I can forsee an awesome Thug or Merc set. Can't really see it relavant for a Corruptor though, but thats coming from someone who likes to solo alot. Thanks.