Over the last 4 mos. or so I have seen the Chronal Skip salvage range from 200k-2.5 million.
I wouldn't worry much if it's hitting 1 million. Also, just put up buy number you are comfortable with and be patient. You might just get it for the 200k you think is fair. If not, whatever the market is bearing...you will have to pay if you must have it asap.
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This is all well and good for you guys who have been playing for awhile, but for the new guy (or returning guy) AE was great because it broke the market and the strangle hold the REAL farmers had on it. Now that its not so easy for me to get tickets I have to resort to the market but I never had a bank roll to begin with. Needless to say my toons are not tricked out with IO sets and probably never will.
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You haven't learned the basics of the market. This is not the market's fault. This is not the marketeer's fault- we put together a lot of guides for you and you didn't read any of them.
I'm going to work on my "IO's on any budget" guide now.
Mini-guides: Force Field Defenders, Blasters, Market Self-Defense, Frankenslotting.
So you think you're a hero, huh.
@Boltcutter in game.
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Then do a few TFs and buy it with merits, it's only a little over 2 Dr Qs 
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eh, don't really have the time for it... well, as of right now
hopefully, I'll be able to play meh game, soon, none stop for 10 hours a day for the rest of summer
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Then do a few TFs and buy it with merits, it's only a little over 2 Dr Qs
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eh, don't really have the time for it... well, as of right now
hopefully, I'll be able to play meh game, soon, none stop for 10 hours a day for the rest of summer
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The point that everyone is trying to make is you don't need to spend 10 hours a day playing to profit from the market. You can do it on around 30 mintues, or less, a day. I have a level 25 brute that is sitting on 600+ million, all made from crafting and selling common IOs. I run about 4 missions a month with him; just enough to cover base rent.
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If ONLY I would have had the money to IO out my scrapper. I IO'd out my brute for CHEEAAAP. I'm talking under 500 mill for everything non purple 'sides 2 LOTG's I still need.
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Back in the days when we had to walk to WW uphill in the snow, I IO'ed (no purples, no uniques) my empathy defender for under 30 million. I was astonished how cheap and easy it was, mostly due to the apparent cluelessness of others.
I got a lvl 50 Miracle:Heal recipe as a drop. Well, I exemp alot so I don't want level 50 IO's. I want my set bonuses down to at least level 35. I put the lvl 50 recipe on the market and it sold for 5 million. With that 5 million, I was able to buy FIVE RECIPES from the Miracle set (including the Heal one) around level 30 *AND* all the needed salvage. I was flabbergasted.
Needless to say (but I'll say it anyway for anyone new to the markets), when I was making my purchases, I was flexible about what level to buy and was willing to wait several days or a week for my bids to go through. I don't play the 'buy it nao' game.
IO'ing a toon for under 30 million..... now THAT'S cheap.
P.S. My goal was increased recovery in place of Stamina. I got +34% recovery with no uniques or purples, plus global recharge, global accuracy and global heal bonus.
Paragon City Search And Rescue
The Mentor Project
Year and a half ago, I IO'd out a character for 61,000 inf per slot. And I had inf leftover. (6 million inf, 93 slots. )
Selling back the SO's in respec got me 5.4 million, for reference.
Mini-guides: Force Field Defenders, Blasters, Market Self-Defense, Frankenslotting.
So you think you're a hero, huh.
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You mean a 40 Miracle: Heal? I'm of the understanding that it only goes to 40.
No. The part of the story I'm sure about was the level 50 part, so it must have been Numina's Convalescence. I use those two sets a lot.
Paragon City Search And Rescue
The Mentor Project
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eh, don't really have the time for it... well, as of right now
hopefully, I'll be able to play meh game, soon, none stop for 10 hours a day for the rest of summer
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The point that everyone is trying to make is you don't need to spend 10 hours a day playing to profit from the market. You can do it on around 30 mintues, or less, a day. I have a level 25 brute that is sitting on 600+ million, all made from crafting and selling common IOs. I run about 4 missions a month with him; just enough to cover base rent.
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ya.. I, pretty much understand that I do not have to play the game for 10 hours straight in order to become rich
What I was saying was that summers coming, school will be out, and I'll have more time to play, enabling me to do TFs more frequently, rewarding me with merits and thus buying the expensive crap with merits...
... I wasn't saying that it takes 10 hours a day to make a profit
I'm completely aware of the fact that in only a few minutes, you can be earning loads...
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You missed it. Blessing: KB prot were down to around ~3M at one point, and I got a small pile of them blue and redside for about that. I saw them going for ~555k here and there, but those were more anomalies I think. The market is all about timing.
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I was there for it. Bought over 20 BotZ: KB Prot recipes for a total of just under 35M. I saw prices crashing, put in super-lowball bids, left the character for almost a week, came back, ???, profit! Even managed to pick up a couple high-30s for <200K per recipe.
I was pretty sure the devs didn't plan on letting meow farming continue, and that scarcity of some sort would hit again. So far, I've made over 150M (gross, not sure how much total I spent on recipes, salvage, and crafting) from my crafted KB, and haven't sold even a dozen yet.
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"if the market were religion Fulmens would be Moses and you'd be L. Ron Hubbard. " --Nethergoat to eryq2
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Imaheroe said
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This is all well and good for you guys who have been playing for awhile, but for the new guy (or returning guy) AE was great because it broke the market and the strangle hold the REAL farmers had on it. Now that its not so easy for me to get tickets I have to resort to the market but I never had a bank roll to begin with. Needless to say my toons are not tricked out with IO sets and probably never will.
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You haven't learned the basics of the market. This is not the market's fault. This is not the marketeer's fault- we put together a lot of guides for you and you didn't read any of them.
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I started one to teach others but ran out of steam before finishing. Still, there's enough there for anyone to get started on riches.
RagManX
"if the market were religion Fulmens would be Moses and you'd be L. Ron Hubbard. " --Nethergoat to eryq2
The economy is not broken. The players are
I visited WW last night and I must say it's been a while but since I got one of my Defenders to 47 I wanted to get a few IOs. Well I got pretty much what I wanted but when I started to look up the salvage I almost puked on the screen when I saw pneumatic piston going for 50K and others that never got over 1K going for 100K. Man things have changed quickly.
@MarvelatMee and @COL Burn
24 - 50s
Too many ALTs
and I'm lovin every minute of it.
Burn tickets on common salvage until I get what I want.
Sell excess on the market and tadaa! Profit!
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and I'm lovin every minute of it.
Burn tickets on common salvage until I get what I want.
Sell excess on the market and tadaa! Profit!
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And if you have recipes memorized you can turn some of the salvage into common IOs people are paying nutty amounts on.
total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
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when I started to look up the salvage I almost puked on the screen when I saw pneumatic piston going for 50K and others that never got over 1K going for 100K. Man things have changed quickly.
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... and of course I still buy those things for 5K or less by just leaving my bids up overnight.
Mini-guides: Force Field Defenders, Blasters, Market Self-Defense, Frankenslotting.
So you think you're a hero, huh.
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You're crazy sir. everyone knows if you cant buy it immediately then something is wrong with the market and all marketeers need to be punished for making it so hard for the victimized casual player to get his purples. :P
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I think I can say with relative certainty that Pneumatic Piston goes for that price (at times) because it's the - Tech, Tier3, Uncommon Salvage that's called for in the "Increase Recovery" Empowerment Buff.
It's much the same with the 2 commons needed for that Buff, and although they are common, they're also used in High-level Common IO's.
So, all three of those pieces of salvage (at times) tend to feel the effects of "by it NOW" pricing. Especially a week or so ago - during the initial MA/AE craze... 
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This is all well and good for you guys who have been playing for awhile, but for the new guy (or returning guy) AE was great because it broke the market and the strangle hold the REAL farmers had on it. Now that its not so easy for me to get tickets I have to resort to the market but I never had a bank roll to begin with.
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It is so easy to get a bank roll, though. I took a blaster with 5K (yes, 5 thousand, NOT million), bought a few Perfect Zinger procs (and other way oversupplied stuff) for 555, resold for 1.5-2M, and repeated with slightly more expensive stuff (buying for 55-100K and reselling for 2-5M). Within 2 weeks, and only logging in on him 4-6 times, I had nearly 80 million.
That happens to be FOUR times the amount I started with, when I came back to the game at the end of 2007. I went from being a total Market newbie, to over 4 billion in Inf (and having a purpled out Scrapper) heroside, and 1.5 billion in Inf (and a Brute and MM IO'd out, minus some purples) villainside. It took me 7-8 months, but I employed half or less of what I have read about in this forum.
Sure, it is possibly that you will not be able to do it. However, mine and the other success stories I have seen, show that it can be done.
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I know this is off topic, but:
How exactly do you memorize IOs???
I've seen people with it before, but I have no idea how to get it...
EDIT: Never mind, looked on paragonwiki and figured it out
Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
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Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
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This is all well and good for you guys who have been playing for awhile, but for the new guy (or returning guy) AE was great because it broke the market and the strangle hold the REAL farmers had on it. Now that its not so easy for me to get tickets I have to resort to the market but I never had a bank roll to begin with. Needless to say my toons are not tricked out with IO sets and probably never will.
Dump on the casual player more please? Let the asian (poor asians get a bad rap) continue farming your game and making cold hard cash. Good choice.
Farming wasn't affected by the AE nerf, everyone knows this right?
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Running normal story based non-farming AE missions I can get around 1500 tickets in an hour easy. That's 3 rare salvage. How much more casual do you want?
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50s include MA/SD, MA/SR, DP/Elec, Claw/Inv, Kat/Dark, Kat/Fire, Spine/Regen, Dark/SD
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they are.
the ticket drops are in proportion to the prices of things on the markets.
people use their tickets to get the salvage they need for their own rolls and only that.
no more "excess goes on the market for cheap" because there is no excess anymore... just scarcity.
strange, because so many patches were in place to increase and balance the rewards... this patch is like 180 from that.
simple math- less tickets = market prices increase.
scarcity breeds criminal behavior in society.
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I wouldn't go that far. Yes, prices will go up w/ fewer tickets awarded, but rare salvage is still relatively cheap in terms of tickets - that will limit the rise.
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Then do a few TFs and buy it with merits, it's only a little over 2 Dr Qs
It's true. This game is NOT rocket surgery. - BillZBubba