So, Demons?


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There's so many demons in this game what wield different elements!

Hordelings and Spectral Demons have ice, Behemoths have fire, I think Succubi have Psi...

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Succubi have Pwnage. lol

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QFT

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wrong. succubi have Bewbage.

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This is a video game. Bewbage is directly related to, not exclusive to, pwnage. One could say bewbage dictates pwnage levels in many areas.

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Well, aside from Spawn, there's a few variations on Ghost Rider that used hellfire and damnation powers for good. The animated version of Raven from the Teen Titans is the half daughter of a demon lord. And Hellboy and Etrigan, of course, who both are actual demons who happen to like humans. (As something other than light snacks.) Also Blade (half vampire.) Morbius the Living Vampire has joined the good guys at least once, although he's more of a specialized kind of mutant than a true vampire.

So even from just my limited knowledge of comics, and excluding horror/mature titles like Vertigo, there's still probably lots of examples. And that's not counting all the other fiction where characters attempt to harness darkness as a force for good. (Such as the various manga/anime where a main character is a demon/half demon or the victim of a failed possession where the human ends up in control of a demon's power, like Devilman.)


 

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Im actually more excited at the prospect of being able to customize my minions. I have a Thug/Dark and the thugs were supposed to be all female according to his concept.

Though knowing my luck, that still wont be possible. :/


 

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Don't get your hopes up. Even if we get power customization, we might not get anything like selectable pets. And if (by some miracle) we get customizable pets, I'd guess that it'll be more like choosing from one of a small selection of preset uniforms. I doubt we'd get anything as fully featured as the MA NPC customization.

I was also told that the devs long ago said that there's a whole list of reasons why female mastermind pets would be a bad idea, from a theme and marketing standpoint. (Given how brainless some media people can be, I can just imagine the "OMG, MMO promotes female slavery!" articles. People got on national TV by making outright lies about Mass Effect, and when it was *proved* that they had no idea what they were talking about, the shows involved didn't even bother with a public "oops.") But I have no idea if that was on the forums, or whether that post still exists.


 

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http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Issue_16

Mentioned in chat during an event. So far no one has denied it.

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Hmm... Positron's answer doesn't match up to the question...

04-28-2009 18:33:30 [Local] Sicari: Can we expect to see mor epower proliferation in new issues to come?
04-28-2009 18:33:34 [Local] Positron: Demon Summoning? Dual Pistols?

Demon Summoning and Dual Pistols don't exist as yet, so can't be proliferated...



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I'm going to go out on a limb and guess an animal forms summoner like a Druid. I think he dreams big.

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Positron already said Demon Summoning is the next one in the Q&A, along with Dual Pistols. Also, one of the new signature characters for Going Rogue is a demon summoning MM. The other uses Dual Pistols.

http://us.ncsoft.com/en/news/press-r...ing-rogue.html
Going Rogue will also introduce two primary new fictional characters representative of this alignment shift in the game's lore: Maelstrom, a pistol-wielding hero gone rogue, and Desdemona, a demon-summoning villain who has been redeemed.

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Nowhere does that say DUAL Pistols. It only says pistol-wielding...

Personally, I see nothing concrete saying we'll be getting either powerset, and I'll stick with thinking we won't. I'd rather be surprised when we do get them than disapointed when we don't.




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to hell with demons, I want Clones, and the ability to choose amongst themed skins for the thugs and mercenaries (mobsters, street punks as exists now, arachnos soldiers, etc...)


 

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First of all, I've never liked the melee MM pets (although as much as my bots like to charge suicidally into melee I'm starting to wonder if I should let it go and give 'em another chance ), and I'm not a huge fan of thermal, HOWEVER for freaking flaming zombies, I would drop everything in a heartbeat for a Zombie/Thermal MM and probably never look back.
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all the heroes who "arrest" people by setting them on fire, bathing them in lethal radiation, or just hauling out an assault rifle and rocket launcher.

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This cracked me up. Reminded me of a conversation I had with a good friend a few years ago. We were both on our blasters, though I can't remember now if we were duoing or just shooting the breeze. Anyway we got on the subject of just how "heroic" some of our powers are.

I joked that my fire blaster could tone down her power to just cause minor burns or burn up all the oxygen causing temporary uncosnciousness, he laughed and said "Yeah, that's great, but I can't make my bullets kill people less "

Anyway, I have to agree here. Sometimes it takes some suspension of disbelief, especially in a comic book world where it's not unusual to see an angel and a demon at the same rave at Pocket D.

Oh, and I would kill for a Carnie set, but since that idea's already been shot down several times in the past, a general circus/clown set would be the next best thing, epsecially now that the second booster pack added a /em juggle emote... /plot


 

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animals be cool, bears, tigers or even mythical, hydra, griffen or sumthin


 

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*cough* clones! *cough*


 

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animals be cool, bears, tigers or even mythical, hydra, griffen or sumthin

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Skeletons are the big problem there. The dev team would have to create entirely new body types and dozens, if not hundreds of new animations for every single animal.


 

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animals be cool, bears, tigers or even mythical, hydra, griffen or sumthin

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Skeletons are the big problem there. The dev team would have to create entirely new body types and dozens, if not hundreds of new animations for every single animal.

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I'm not a programmer so this is just a guess. Wouldn't they also need to work in how they would react to holds, stuns, sleep, confuse, knockback, and immobilization effects?


 

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animals be cool, bears, tigers or even mythical, hydra, griffen or sumthin

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Skeletons are the big problem there. The dev team would have to create entirely new body types and dozens, if not hundreds of new animations for every single animal.

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I'm not a programmer so this is just a guess. Wouldn't they also need to work in how they would react to holds, stuns, sleep, confuse, knockback, and immobilization effects?

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That'd be part of the animation effects, as everything else is just a basic AI bit that probably wouldn't have to be changed all that much. Sleeps/Holds/Stuns would all need new react animations, whereas Immobilize and Confuse wouldn't need anything special at all themselves.

Knockback would probably just be a secondary effect of getting the new skeleton to react with the ragdoll physics.


 

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using my psychic powers (because i totally have that power) i'd like to think that Posi and the devs are making a Primary powerset that is very neutral based. Demons are pretty much one sided: Evil. Yes, i know we have a good guy with the ability to summon demons but not everybody has the same background story. So I must conclude that the Primary Powerset can be either Good or Evil to fit with the "Going Rogue" Theory.

I say elementals would be very neat but I want Pirates gosh darn it! You hear me Positron?! I want my Pirates! Arrrgh!


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Ammo switching for Dual Pistols was my idea:
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=135484

 

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using my psychic powers (because i totally have that power) i'd like to think that Posi and the devs are making a Primary powerset that is very neutral based. Demons are pretty much one sided: Evil. Yes, i know we have a good guy with the ability to summon demons but not everybody has the same background story. So I must conclude that the Primary Powerset can be either Good or Evil to fit with the "Going Rogue" Theory.

I say elementals would be very neat but I want Pirates gosh darn it! You hear me Positron?! I want my Pirates! Arrrgh!

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I actually don't want a pirates set. Why?

I really, really, REALLY don't want yet another freaking lethal-damage primary.

Really.

I want a set that does fire, cold, psionic, SOMETHING other than the plethora of lethal sets we have now.

I mean, really, what exactly would pirates DO? Muskets and cutlasses? They'd just be another iteration of thugs or mercs.

Hell, I'd love to see a shivan set. Elementals. Winterlings. Shadowlings. Creatures of pure electric energy. Etc, etc, etc.

I'm glad we're getting one of the classic "minion summoning" sets. I've been wanting to make a demon-summoner for ages.


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The animals and classic monsters sets suggested in this thread seem like more fun than demons.

Personally, I'd like to see either a molemen set or aliens.


 

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I was also told that the devs long ago said that there's a whole list of reasons why female mastermind pets would be a bad idea, from a theme and marketing standpoint. (Given how brainless some media people can be, I can just imagine the "OMG, MMO promotes female slavery!" articles. People got on national TV by making outright lies about Mass Effect, and when it was *proved* that they had no idea what they were talking about, the shows involved didn't even bother with a public "oops.") But I have no idea if that was on the forums, or whether that post still exists.

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I hope that's a joke. If not, it's incredibly sexist, are all of the male pets slaves? Gimme a break.


 

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I was also told that the devs long ago said that there's a whole list of reasons why female mastermind pets would be a bad idea, from a theme and marketing standpoint. (Given how brainless some media people can be, I can just imagine the "OMG, MMO promotes female slavery!" articles. People got on national TV by making outright lies about Mass Effect, and when it was *proved* that they had no idea what they were talking about, the shows involved didn't even bother with a public "oops.") But I have no idea if that was on the forums, or whether that post still exists.

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I hope that's a joke. If not, it's incredibly sexist, are all of the male pets slaves? Gimme a break.

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No, it's not a joke, and yes, it is a bit sexist. It follows the same logic of why you can't have a "White Entertainment Channel." It's to be expected, the game wouldn't survive the flames, and I'd rather play it safe than piss a bunch of feminists off.

Although, when has your thug ever said "No, I don't feel like attacking him. I'll just stand here." aside from being mezzed? I also don't remember doling out infamy paychecks... Fits pretty close to slavery.


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If we were to call it slavery, how is male slavery better than female slavery? Makes no sense to me. I really can't imagine the person who'd really get upset over the inclusion of females but I can, however, see plenty of reason to get upset over the lack of females, especially considering that the models are already coded into the game.


 

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Bim, I totally agree with you, it's ridiculous. It's not you, or me, or most of the people who play the game that's the problem: It's society. Male slavery is ok, but female slavery is way over the top bad.


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My male brethren, stand up and fight! Abolish this unholy slavery of our sex!

Raise your fists high and throw off the shackles of the masterminding oppression!!!


 

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Yeah, but see... we're man enough to not take it in the oppressive light. A game is a game to us.

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I also thought sarcasm for the sake of a joke was obvious


 

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Ahhhh.

So you "used" my post for your own benefits!

HE'S ENSLAVING MY POSTS!


Naaaaah


Anyways, I demand Pirates!

Of course my wishlist could get larger.