Criteria for Purple Drops?


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Apparently my search fu is weak today. I've been trying to find information on just what the criteria for purple drops is exactly. I recall reading that it only drops for those level 50, although I have heard they will drop for anyone on a team with level 50s, even if they are not 50. Do they only drop from mobs? Any idea just how rare they are?

Anyway, if you can point me to a post with answers, or provide answers here, it would be much appreciated.


 

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They only drop from level 50+ mobs. Your character's level does not matter, just the mob. So if you're SKed to someone and fighting 50+ mobs, you are eligible for a purple drop when the mob dies.

They are not, however, in the mission complete pool or available from merits.


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Close, it is not level 50+ mobs it is "any mob capable of dropping a level 50 recipe". That means level 47+

Note that exactly as Ten said you cannot get them with merits, you cannot get them with random rolls, they only drop from defeated mobs of the appropriate level.


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* Supposedly they are extremely rare (don't recall the math though)

* Drop only from mobs, so just like Pool A (but again rarer)

* Drop only from mobs that are "level eligible" to drop a level 50 recipe; so not less than level 47 bad guy, I would assume. I have gotten dozens of purples from level 48 through 52 mobs.

* Can drop into the tray of anyone of any true level provided they are sk'd high enough to receive xp. So, if facing level 50 mobs and you have a level 6 sk'd to a level 46 then the level 6 (as well as the level 46, of course) can get a purple drop


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Ah, this makes much more sense now. Thanks for the info!


 

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That is true, as I once got a Purple from a 47 Fortunata in CoV. At first, I thought it was a bug.


 

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* Supposedly they are extremely rare (don't recall the math though)

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The math has never been revealed, although several analyses of available data have suggested ratios of around 6:1 rares to ultra-rares (that is, for every purple that drops, about 6 rare Pool As drop).


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47-52 will drop purples. not 50+. it's a luck thing.


 

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Couple of other questions

(1) I assume that these scale down when exemped as other sets do, but do set bonuses from these remain even when exemping down?

(2) Is any of this information available 'officially' and I just am not looking in the right place?


 

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Couple of other questions

(1) I assume that these scale down when exemped as other sets do, but do set bonuses from these remain even when exemping down?

(2) Is any of this information available 'officially' and I just am not looking in the right place?

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The Purple Set Bonuses work regardless of level. Even if you are exemplared down to level one, the bonuses apply. However, you get crap for the enhacement values. I haven't check the purple sets directly but my Hami-O'ed builds get less then 2% from enhancers across the board. (1% ACC, 1.1% DAM. etc).


 

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I've heard Developers aimed for the average CoHer to get one Very Rare drop every 6 weeks played.

Most of us aren't "average", but it takes a loooooooong time.


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Then again, on Christmas Eve I got an Armageddon proc and a Hecatomb proc less than an hour apart, so your mileage may vary.


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Couple of other questions

(1) I assume that these scale down when exemped as other sets do, but do set bonuses from these remain even when exemping down?

(2) Is any of this information available 'officially' and I just am not looking in the right place?

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paragon wiki as ussual has it all,

Yes when exempted down purples get hit with the scalling rules of normal
IO's/SO's BUT any and all set bonuses (purple or not) never change value
you either get it or you don't (and in purples case always get it (even if the
power is not availble))

just a FYI lv 1 with my blaster is a joke now I've got like 45% global
acc so I dont miss (yes thats 3 sets of purples with acc in it )


 

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They are not, however, in the mission complete pool or available from merits.

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You can earn them from merits, I recieved a Apoc Chance for dmg (lethal IIRC) from the 46-50 Random Trial Reward.

Nothing like a cool 100mil to beef up my NW


 

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Just an FYI: The Ouroboros day job benefit is Pool A. It might count for purples if you are 47+.


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They are not, however, in the mission complete pool or available from merits.

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You can earn them from merits, I recieved a Apoc Chance for dmg (lethal IIRC) from the 46-50 Random Trial Reward.

Nothing like a cool 100mil to beef up my NW

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They are not, however, in the mission complete pool or available from merits.

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You can earn them from merits, I recieved a Apoc Chance for dmg (lethal IIRC) from the 46-50 Random Trial Reward.

Nothing like a cool 100mil to beef up my NW

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Umm.....or not....


 

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My big problem with Purples is more something strange I see going on with my 50 toons,
Drops in general seem a whole lot sparcer than earlier level ranges, in that its not unknown for me to run through an entire cycle of newspaper missions( that is 5 or so before your asked to visit Wiggy), and get only maybe 2-3 recipes( any recipes), out of it. Contrast this my lower level alts, where I can get maybe 2-3 recipes per mission at least.


 

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My big problem with Purples is more something strange I see going on with my 50 toons,
Drops in general seem a whole lot sparcer than earlier level ranges, in that its not unknown for me to run through an entire cycle of newspaper missions( that is 5 or so before your asked to visit Wiggy), and get only maybe 2-3 recipes( any recipes), out of it. Contrast this my lower level alts, where I can get maybe 2-3 recipes per mission at least.

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I guessed this is going on as well. Human beings are notoriously bad at guessing at randomness so I won't call it a "fact". However, I do keep wondering if the devs have lowered the drop rate.


 

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They are not, however, in the mission complete pool or available from merits.

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You can earn them from merits, I recieved a Apoc Chance for dmg (lethal IIRC) from the 46-50 Random Trial Reward.

Nothing like a cool 100mil to beef up my NW

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Everything about that is off-base.

You can't get it from merits at all.

It's not lethal damage.

No one would have bought the chance for damage from you for 100M.


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Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
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Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
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My big problem with Purples is more something strange I see going on with my 50 toons,
Drops in general seem a whole lot sparcer than earlier level ranges, in that its not unknown for me to run through an entire cycle of newspaper missions( that is 5 or so before your asked to visit Wiggy), and get only maybe 2-3 recipes( any recipes), out of it. Contrast this my lower level alts, where I can get maybe 2-3 recipes per mission at least.

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I guessed this is going on as well. Human beings are notoriously bad at guessing at randomness so I won't call it a "fact". However, I do keep wondering if the devs have lowered the drop rate.

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It would certainly be consistent with other actions they have taken of late. The entire purpose of the merit seems to have been to decrease the supply of enhances. Never mind that enhancing characters is what many people enjoy most about the game.

It would toss in recent price changes as added evidence but there are too many variables.


 

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My big problem with Purples is more something strange I see going on with my 50 toons,
Drops in general seem a whole lot sparcer than earlier level ranges, in that its not unknown for me to run through an entire cycle of newspaper missions( that is 5 or so before your asked to visit Wiggy), and get only maybe 2-3 recipes( any recipes), out of it. Contrast this my lower level alts, where I can get maybe 2-3 recipes per mission at least.

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This is totally not happening to me. I have Herostats data to support that fact.


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American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA

 

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They are not, however, in the mission complete pool or available from merits.

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You can earn them from merits, I recieved a Apoc Chance for dmg (lethal IIRC) from the 46-50 Random Trial Reward.

Nothing like a cool 100mil to beef up my NW

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Everything about that is off-base.

You can't get it from merits at all.

It's not lethal damage.

No one would have bought the chance for damage from you for 100M.

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I was fully going to call him on the last one as well. Then I went and looked at Apocalypse prices on the BM, and when I looked, a crafted version of that proc actually had gone for 100M+.

I was stunned by the prices realized on that set in the wake of 2xp weekend. Stunned.

Other than that, yeah - agreed entirely.


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They are not, however, in the mission complete pool or available from merits.

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You can earn them from merits, I recieved a Apoc Chance for dmg (lethal IIRC) from the 46-50 Random Trial Reward.

Nothing like a cool 100mil to beef up my NW

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Everything about that is off-base.

You can't get it from merits at all.

It's not lethal damage.

No one would have bought the chance for damage from you for 100M.

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I was fully going to call him on the last one as well. Then I went and looked at Apocalypse prices on the BM, and when I looked, a crafted version of that proc actually had gone for 100M+.

I was stunned by the prices realized on that set in the wake of 2xp weekend. Stunned.

Other than that, yeah - agreed entirely.

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In summation: Screenshots or it didn't happen.


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