Discussion: Clarification on Character Transfer
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Posted on: 2007-08-20 14:58 in News, Events and Announcement Discussion
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Also, if you have no free character slots on a server, you will need to make room before you can transfer there.
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Is there a technical reason why additional character slots cannot be added per server? I understand that there needs to be some kind of limit (to prevent name camping and general resource issues).
But after three years I'm filling up all 12 of my character slots on my main server with level 50 characters. Forcing me to another server isn't really quite fair, because then I have to abandon the Supergroup Base that I spent so much time on, and all the people I've played with.
Forcing me to get another account isn't right either, because I won't get Veteran rewards on a second account.
Finally, forcing me to delete a character, or paying to copy a character to a third server to free up a slot and then paying again to make the transfer I really want is a shabby way to treat users who have playing and paying for the game for three years.
Here are some suggestions, in descending order of preference:
<ul type="square">[*]Once a character hits 50 on a server you should get an additional character slot on that server. There are probably technical issues involved that would make this non-trivial to implement.
[*]Additional character slots should be added as Veteran rewards across all servers. E.g., after each year you get two more character slots. Seeing as account information is already accessed to decide whether you should have 8 or 12 character slots, this should be pretty straightforward.
[*]Additional character slots (across all servers) would be available for purchase for a one-time fee of, say, $10. Like the previous one, this should be relatively straightforward.
[*]Institute a character swap. When you specify a transfer, optionally specify a character on the destination server to exchange with. The source character will be moved to the destination server and the swapped character will be moved to the source server.[/list]While it is true you are adding new content all the time, it takes you much longer to develop that content than it does for us to play through it. You've also added new powersets -- and will add even more, it seems, in the relatively near future. To access that content we need to create new characters, and we should be able to do so on the server with our base and friends.
Please don't alienate your most loyal customers by forcing them to switch servers, abandon friends or delete characters.
As for the renaming service, would one be able to switch names between 2 characters residing on the same server (i.e., give toon#1 the name of toon#2, and vice-versa)? 
Can I move between American and European servers?
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Is there a technical reason why additional character slots cannot be added per server? I understand that there needs to be some kind of limit (to prevent name camping and general resource issues).
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I'm going to second this. I would love to have more character slots. I like having my villains and heroes on the same server because I like the people I play with there, Blue and Red side.
Perhaps a way to move character slots from one server to another. I could move 6 slots from two other servers so that I had a total of 24 slots on my home server.
A "serverless" environment has been talked about. Perhaps you could put all 132 character slots (11 servers x 12 slots per server) in one "bank" then when you make a character you simply choose an empty slot and then choose which server that character will live on. The only thing I've ever used the 120 slots that are not on my home server for is testing builds and attending special events...
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Can I move between American and European servers?
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No, that service ended quite a while ago.
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I'm going to second this. I would love to have more character slots. I like having my villains and heroes on the same server because I like the people I play with there, Blue and Red side.
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Thirded!
Servers form their own little communities, and having played since just after launch...I don't wanna leave mine, and I have tons more alt ideas I'd like to run there under my current set of vet rewards.
Perhaps something to put in conjunction with any new powersets that may be released? *shrug*
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I'm going to second this. I would love to have more character slots. I like having my villains and heroes on the same server because I like the people I play with there, Blue and Red side.
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Thirded!
Servers form their own little communities, and having played since just after launch...I don't wanna leave mine, and I have tons more alt ideas I'd like to run there under my current set of vet rewards.
Perhaps something to put in conjunction with any new powersets that may be released? *shrug*
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Fourthed!
And no, I don't have a lisp. I do have my main server filled though and the thought of deleting any of these characters hasn't crossed my mind.
Much.
Anyhoo, since we will be getting transfers I can at least 'save' some of my lesser played characters by moving them to a different sever. But I would like to keep them where they are as I enjoy the server they are on.
More slots as a vet reward would be awesome. The ability to buy additional slots while not as good as free, would still be pretty cool. 
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The two functions, character transfer and renaming should be part of the veteran reward system. The reason for the supposed cost is to deter mass swapping, but I would imagine players with higher veteran rewards have pretty much established certain characters on certain servers. Rewarding long term players with a few renames/transfers would not have a great impact on the reason for the charges on the whole.
Jeez-Louise! You know, it's great and all that you keep adding things to the game, but for crying out loud, could you please FIX some of the things you broke???
The medical auxiliary items have not been connecting to the rez circles (tech or magic) since at *least* issue 8, and the "Diamond 1" SG logo has not been appearing on base SG logo items since at *least* issue 5!!! Come on, Devs! New stuff is all well and good, but stuff that *works* would be nice, too! 
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A "serverless" environment has been talked about. Perhaps you could put all 132 character slots (11 servers x 12 slots per server) in one "bank" then when you make a character you simply choose an empty slot and then choose which server that character will live on. The only thing I've ever used the 120 slots that are not on my home server for is testing builds and attending special events...
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The problem with that is who gets to keep the name? I have "Avatar of Horus" on Pinnacle. Imagine my joy when I found that the same name has been taken on both Freedom and Victory (where my friends play). So, let's say the devs do collapse the servers. Who gets the name? Or SG names? And just imagine logging into the RWZ and instead of seeing RWZ 1-3, you see RWZ 1-40! Just not a very good idea while the game is still popular.
*EDIT* I just realized that you were talking about a bank for your account, and not about making the game serverless. Sorry! That actually sounds like a good idea!
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I would imagine there are more than a few people who are interested in leaving freedom as well for greener pastures. Just depends on the numbers entering vs. leaving, we'll find that out when we find it out, if you got lots of disposable income and are willing to put up with tons of lag or whatnot more power to you. NCsoft will be happy for the income.
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My profile I suspect is not atypical of some long time players on Freedom. I have 6 50s with a 7th coming soon and a few others 32/25/21/15/1. I am waiting for this to go live so I can get a couple of my 50s off onto other servers so I can create some new toons on freedom, while also taking some cash and cash generating potential to other servers where I only have lowbies. It won't change how many toons I have on freedom, and may mean I play more there.
Extra slots would be very welcome though. I (and most of my friends) took the precaution of playing heroes and villains on different servers, and now the RWZ is cooperative, I'm slightly wishing I hadn't as it would be fun for heroes/vills to meet up. I could do this via the server transfer mechanism if extra slots were available.
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IS there still the $9.99 fee or is that being waived as well???
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Jeez-Louise! You know, it's great and all that you keep adding things to the game, but for crying out loud, could you please FIX some of the things you broke???
The medical auxiliary items have not been connecting to the rez circles (tech or magic) since at *least* issue 8, and the "Diamond 1" SG logo has not been appearing on base SG logo items since at *least* issue 5!!! Come on, Devs! New stuff is all well and good, but stuff that *works* would be nice, too!
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We didn't HAVE bases with I-5.
...and I'm sure that they're very busy working on stabilizing known issues - but in the meantime, we should be glad that they aren't slowing everything else to a complete halt while they get them worked out - or who knows when we'd see new content??
I, for one, am excited about these new features. Everyone likes to give the devs such a hard time about things they'd like to see changed or fixed, but nobody seems to recognize that they're only implimenting new content for US, the players...because WE asked for it. I feel bad for them, I'm sure we're a real headache to put up with sometimes.
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...Is there a technical reason why additional character slots cannot be added per server? ...filling up all 12 of my character slots ... with level 50 characters ... then I have to abandon the Supergroup Base that I spent so much time on, and all the people I've played with...
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(sorry for the sniping in the quote, but people who quote the entire post are annoying).
Anyway, I cannot believe how much useless bantor I had to read through until I came across this gem of a post.
All I can say is GIVE US SOME FREAKIN' SLOTS, DAMMIT!
BOXING GLOVES, Cryptic/NCSoft? Are you freakin' KIDDING ME? 39 months and you give BOXING GLOVES? Why not just kick me in the NUTS?
How about ONE EXTRA SLOT per 6 months in? I'd say per 3 months, but even six seems reasonable. HELL, freeekin' charge me for it, if you have to, but just GIMME SOME DAMN SLOTS.
I've deleted several 50's already, not to mention many high-level toons as well (40+) just to make room for new n00bs.
I don't want to transfer ANYWHERE - except maybe to consolidate villains and heroes on separate servers - IF that.
$10 a pop? When all the yahoo's are done giving their money away, can you make something a little more friendly to your long-time customers? Throw me a freeken bone here.
-r0y
PS: and YES, I have made many new toons on Freedom *just* because of the PvP aspect (larger pool of challengers) - so I can really see how that server in particular CAN and probably WILL fill up (with PvP'ers); maybe the non-pvp'ers will leave and balance it out; who knows / who cares.
"Look how many pages of crap are in this thread already!" -r0y to all threads on these forums.
is there a list of unofficial/should be official servers as far as rp/pvp/fun and so on?
cause i like to pvp thusly i stay on freedom cause i can always find a zone to pvp in. are there any other servers i should look into that are pvpcentric, ive got afew lvl 50 trollers on triumph but its to small for me not enough targets in pvp zones. so yea any info i would be most grateful for.
I'm looking forward to this. Several of my RL friends and myself started on one server and now we're all playing on another server (alot of new friends started on this other server). This will give us the chance to move some of our old favorite characters and have fun.
For those who are concerned about people flooding high population servers please keep in mind this would also give SGs on these high pop server the opportunity to consider moving to a lower pop server if it's that much of a problem. If your response is "Why should I have to move?" keep in mind nobody is asking you to move it's just one possible solution to the problem.
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IS there still the $9.99 fee or is that being waived as well???
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The fee is still there.
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The two functions, character transfer and renaming should be part of the veteran reward system. The reason for the supposed cost is to deter mass swapping, but I would imagine players with higher veteran rewards have pretty much established certain characters on certain servers. Rewarding long term players with a few renames/transfers would not have a great impact on the reason for the charges on the whole.
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Reading for the Win : (from this thread, even!)
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Q: These features would make great Veteran Rewards! Is that possible?
A: We've talked about this, but the tech to do it wasn't a simple thing. We'd rather get the basic functionality out there for everyone and then go from there.
- Lighthouse
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My suggestion is to not jump to the conclusion that everyone will be rushing to transfer ONTO the busy servers. I know of many people, including myself, that can't wait to get away from the crowds and lag and such.
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That was my thought. Who in the world is going to be transferring TO Freedom? If anything, it's Virtue that'll have more trouble with overcrowding.
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Damn straight...hmm, maybe folks shoulda designated more than one "unofficial RP Server"
I think this is a great idea, I play on Freedom and Virtue solely because most of the fun for me comes from interacting with other players. Hopefully this will also bolster the RP scene on Virtue.
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The Character Transfer and Character Rename services are still in the testing phase. With any new feature, we want to ensure that it is rock solid and ready before we make it available.
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If it is still in testing phase why is it NOT available on Training Room? Kind of hard to test a service that is not available, is it not?
....just wondering
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The Character Transfer and Character Rename services are still in the testing phase. With any new feature, we want to ensure that it is rock solid and ready before we make it available.
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If it is still in testing phase why is it NOT available on Training Room? Kind of hard to test a service that is not available, is it not?
....just wondering
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Or just maybe, they have gotten what they can out of the Transfers current build, and find it better/easier to disable it to prevent unneeded issues, etc, from occuring?
They do have another build for it coming soon.
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The Character Transfer and Character Rename services are still in the testing phase. With any new feature, we want to ensure that it is rock solid and ready before we make it available.
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If it is still in testing phase why is it NOT available on Training Room? Kind of hard to test a service that is not available, is it not?
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Yeah,you have to be on the Test Server,they curently are running two servers so that everyone can test out the transfer system
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The Character Transfer and Character Rename services are still in the testing phase. With any new feature, we want to ensure that it is rock solid and ready before we make it available.
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If it is still in testing phase why is it NOT available on Training Room? Kind of hard to test a service that is not available, is it not?
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Yeah,you have to be on the Test Server,they curently are running two servers so that everyone can test out the transfer system
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yeah that's pretty much my point. They DO have 2 servers and the Name Check is still available, they do not have Name Change or Transfer available.
If, as Leech says, they have a "new" build on the way I suppose they'll test it further, just saying that its not available.
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sux... i buy a second account so my wife and I can play CoX together and now i have to try to make a new toona nad level up to catch her ? Not to fun... how bout adding that for the community....Lighthouse ???
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Do you have any idea how fast this would degenerate to "Level 50 Inv tanker 4 sale. $500.00 cheap! Activates Kheldian ATs!"
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I was just going to call the guy an [censored] for being a [censored] to LH, but I like your answer better