ATI Issues and Settings Recommendations
By
ActionJakson,
Posted on: 2007-07-09 15:58 in ALL ACCESS Gameplay Technical Issues Bugs
Might you have anything useful to say by chance?
Be well, people of CoH.
I've tried the settings you guys recommend but I'm still having my problem. Here it is:
Every time I start COH I get to the "Loading" strip then the screen goes black and that's it. I can't tab out, ctl+alt+del doesn't work, nothing. I'm running a HD 3870x2 and 10.6. I've done Safe Mode with the same results.
Here's my system:
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DxDiag gathered at July 16, 2010 17:55 (-04:00)
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_gdr.100226-1909)
System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
System Model: System Product Name
BIOS: BIOS Date: 03/03/07 12:06:34 Ver: 08.00.12
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Memory: 4096MB
.Net Memory Report: 1741MB out of 2815MB available
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C Drive: (ST3750640AS Q ATA Device) 489501MB out of 715401MB (68%) free
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E Drive: (HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH22LP20 ATA Device) zero-size drive
D Drive: (MATSHITA DVD-ROM SR-8585 ATA Device) zero-size drive
Windows directory location: F:\Windows
DirectX: DirectX 11
DirectX Diag version: 6.01.7600.16385 (32-bit version)
Display Notes: No problems found.
Sound Notes: No problems found.
Input Notes: No problems found.
Monitor:
Monitor's Max Resolution: (blank)
Video Device Name: ATI Radeon HD 3870 X2
Manufacturer / Chip: ATI Technologies Inc. / ATI display adapter (0x950F)
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Driver Version: 8.741.0.0
Driver Date: 5/27/2010 1:02:46 PM
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Full Screen: Yes
Maximized: No
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Vertical Sync Enabled: Yes
Physics Quality: High
Maximum Particles: 50000
Max Particle Fill? 10.000
Physics Card Enabled: No
Anti-aliasing: Unknown (0)
Anisotropic Filtering: 4x
Texture LOD Bias: Smooth
Water Effects: Ultra quality
Bloom: 1.000 (turned on)
Depth of Field Enabled: Yes
Desaturation Effects (Sepia) Enabled: Yes
Shader Detail: Medium?
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Music Sound Volume: 0.600
Show Advanced Graphics Options: No
Overall Graphics Quality: 0.500
Reverse Mouse Buttons: No
Save Login Username: Yes
Transfer Rate: 436634 bytes/second
Current Game Version: 1800.201006040036.8T
Installation Directory: c:\Program Files\City of Heroes
Mod files in the Data directory
No modifications found
I was wondering what would be the next best videocard or a better videocard would be great.
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DxDiag gathered at July 20, 2010 16:45 (-05:00)
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_gdr.100226-1909)
System Manufacturer: Dell Inc.
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Sound Notes: No problems found.
No problems found.
Input Notes: No problems found.
Monitor:
Monitor's Max Resolution: (blank)
Video Device Name: ATI Radeon HD 4200
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Installation Directory: C:\Program Files (x86)\City of Heroes
Mod files in the Data directory
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I was wondering:
How is possible that on a videocard like the 5870 the game doesn't run at a good 50/60fps but only at 34?
I mean I don't even use the AntiA. cause it gives a very strange watery effect around the edges of every model in the game and in Atlas Park (open space) or inside a building(hospital for example) 34fps ...
I'm missing something here or is normal as usuall to be screwed up cause we are Ati users?
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Try turning OFF Ambient Occlusion and ON Anti-Aliasing... looks great on my 5850 and I am getting 100+ fps at 1680 x 1050... try it!|
Originally Posted by ExGemini
I was wondering:
How is possible that on a videocard like the 5870 the game doesn't run at a good 50/60fps but only at 34? I mean I don't even use the AntiA. cause it gives a very strange watery effect around the edges of every model in the game and in Atlas Park (open space) or inside a building(hospital for example) 34fps ... I'm missing something here or is normal as usuall to be screwed up cause we are Ati users? |
( AO and AA do not play well together on ATI 5000 series yet, and I just personally like AA better if I can only pick one...)
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The new 10.7 drivers for Windows 7 x64 have resolved this for my 5850.
I've got AA and AO both enabled and the tell-tale squares along the edges are gone. IQ is excellent.
EDIT: Oops - yeah, these were just released today 
Please wait while system loads...new signature.
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Hmm. Downloading now. Just loaded 10.6s the other day.
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Originally Posted by ChaoticDNA
The new 10.7 drivers for Windows 7 x64 have resolved this for my 5850.
I've got AA and AO both enabled and the tell-tale squares along the edges are gone. IQ is excellent. |
Be well, people of CoH.
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Originally Posted by ChaoticDNA
The new 10.7 drivers for Windows 7 x64 have resolved this for my 5850.
I've got AA and AO both enabled and the tell-tale squares along the edges are gone. IQ is excellent. EDIT: Oops - yeah, these were just released today |
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Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
Hmm. Downloading now. Just loaded 10.6s the other day.
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Yea, the freaky blockiness is gone, but AA still doesn't look as clean with AO on as with AO off.
It does make the electricity cables look worse as shown below. Also, please note the HUGE FPS hit by enabling AO.
AO ON:
AO OFF:
Be well, people of CoH.
Side note... I decided to drop the Shadow slider down some to Medium and put AO on Balanced... and I'm getting quite acceptable performance and no real loss of eyecandy. Even at 100% world detail and 1920X1200 resolution.
EDIT: So that everyone knows, I'm going to once again request that this thread be unstickied. It's woefully out of date and serves no purpose anymore.
Be well, people of CoH.
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Confirming, 10.7s seem to resolve the AA/AO issue on my 5850. Win7x64. Very glad.
EDIT: Nevermind. While turning on both FSAA and AO on does result in a loss of smoothness from just having FSAA enabled, I can see that it's actually a very minor loss and not universal. I was just used to running around at 8x FSAA and having things VERY smooth, so the loss at first appeared much more significant to me.
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Hello I have read this thread and am in the process of changing settings for better performance my question is. should my fan be running like crazy when trying to run in ultra mode?
this is my pc
thanks in advance
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DxDiag gathered at July 27, 2010 18:00 (-04:00)
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_gdr.100226-1909)
System Manufacturer: ASUSTeK Computer INC.
System Model: CG1330
BIOS: BIOS Date: 05/17/10 10:26:32 Ver: 04.02
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Memory: 8192MB
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C Drive: (Hitachi HDT721010SLA360 ATA Device) 324028MB out of 381545MB (84%) free
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J Drive: (Maxtor OneTouch USB Device) 240853MB out of 305242MB (78%) free
E Drive: (HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH40N ATA Device) zero-size drive
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Display Notes: No problems found.
No problems found.
Sound Notes: No problems found.
No problems found.
No problems found.
Input Notes: No problems found.
Monitor:
Monitor's Max Resolution: (blank)
Video Device Name: ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series
Manufacturer / Chip: ATI Technologies Inc. / ATI display adapter (0x68BE)
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Driver Date: 5/27/2010 1:02:04 PM
Driver Language: English
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Motherboard Model: (empty)
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Motherboard Version: Rev X.0x
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Music Sound Volume: 0.600
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Overall Graphics Quality: 0.000
Reverse Mouse Buttons: No
Save Login Username: Yes
Transfer Rate: Unknown bytes/second
Current Game Version: 1800.201006040036.8T
Installation Directory: C:\Program Files (x86)\City of Heroes
Mod files in the Data directory
No modifications found
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Catalyst 10.7 fixed AA+AO problems!!!!!!|
Originally Posted by Vanex_NA
10.5 does not solve anything here.
AA+DoF (no AO) = problems AA+AO (no DoF) = problems DoF+AO (no AA) = OK so problems lie with AA! doom or not doom I spent 250 for a 5850 and the visual quality is LESS than with my old 8800GTS 320 where I could use AA+AO+DoF at the same resolution (and half fps). |
downloaded from here:
http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_ca...indows-7-64bit
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ok, i asked this a long time ago and didnt get any replies, so im gonna ask again. i brought a radeon 2400HD card and upped the power supply to 300W to accomodate. can someone please tell me if this is sufficient before i go nuts? i installed and updated the catalyst drivers to the new 10-10. i appreciate the help with this, and hopefully this time i'll get some.
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Originally Posted by TheDark1
Alright, ive read as much as i can without going blind and maybe this particular post was answered before and i just missed it, so flame if you must for inattentiveness, but here goes:
im running a 9250 128MB card, PCI interface. CCC says im running driver 8.2, CAT ver 6.11 i also have an embedded GForce4 chip in my mobo which is currently disabled to prevent conflicts. IF i were to upgrade my HP pavilion a520n, what would be a reasonable card to upgrade to, since i seem to have distinct problems locating a PCI card(everything these days is PCI-E). bear in mind, im running XP platform and have no real interest in upgrading the mobo, the computer in its entirety, the OS, or pretty much anything else for that matter. the reason im asking for help theorizing on a card upgrade is simply to resolve lag/rubber banding and maybe make the game sparkle a bit more brightly. aside from those 2 issues, i really dont have too much trouble playing/streaming the game. thanx for the advice! |
Ok, so I'm using an HD 5870 and I'm having a weird issue.
The Frame Rate repeatedly drops from where it should be (Synced at 60) down to 25 - 30. There is no direct interval, and there is no consistency other than it happens often enough to make any game unplayable.
As an experiment, I loaded Windows XP on another Hard drive. With all the same ATi Drivers and settings, and In-Game settings (Both CoH and STO) The problem only Happens on my Windows 7 Installation. So, it's not a Hardware problem. Also, It's not a Virus, because I scanned the machine for it and It came back clean (I'm a PC Tech, so I'm 100% confident that the machine is clean)
What's the next best step? I mean, I don't mind running the XP Partition, but most of my stuff is in Windows 7 and it's kind of clunky to do both. Any suggestions about how I could go about uncovering the cause of this very strange issue?
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Windows 7 consumes more RAM than XP, how much does your machine have?
It has 4 GB. I've been running Win7 on this machine for the last 8 months, and it only started doing this a few weeks ago. None of my internal components have been upgraded.
EDIT: I built this system brand new 8 Months ago, at which time I installed Windows 7 as the primary OS.
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Was there an OS or driver update around that time, a few weeks ago?
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Originally Posted by Flarecrow
It has 4 GB. I've been running Win7 on this machine for the last 8 months, and it only started doing this a few weeks ago. None of my internal components have been upgraded.
EDIT: I built this system brand new 8 Months ago, at which time I installed Windows 7 as the primary OS. |
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As far as windows updates, I'm not sure. I did update my ATi Drivers, but, it wasn't an immediate difference. I updated them and everything was fine for a week or so, then it started acting up. I went back (Uninstalled the drivers, used driver sweeper, and installed an older set) but the problem persisted.
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Hmm. Being a tech, I'm sure you keep your drives degragmented...|
Originally Posted by Flarecrow
As far as windows updates, I'm not sure. I did update my ATi Drivers, but, it wasn't an immediate difference. I updated them and everything was fine for a week or so, then it started acting up. I went back (Uninstalled the drivers, used driver sweeper, and installed an older set) but the problem persisted.
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Since you have a spare drive handy, did you try doing another Win 7 install? I would expect it to behave the same, but if it doesn't, that might point to something wrong with the current installation (a corrupted file, or bad Registry entry perhaps).
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I invite everybody to add the above image to your signature as a petition to reverse NCSoft's decision.
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Originally Posted by Flarecrow
As far as windows updates, I'm not sure. I did update my ATi Drivers, but, it wasn't an immediate difference. I updated them and everything was fine for a week or so, then it started acting up. I went back (Uninstalled the drivers, used driver sweeper, and installed an older set) but the problem persisted.
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I'm having what seems to be the exact same issue as you. When i19 went live (or right around there) I am having frame rate issues. With all settings turned down (off or to the lowest setting) I am having frame rate 'jumps/skips' when AoE powers are used (or any power some times)...
showfps 1 shows me a steady 80 fps (when settings are all low/off) but then graphfps 1 shows red lines/spikes when powers are used.
I've been working with NCsoft support with this for a while and no resolution yet
My PC:
Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium Edition
8 GB RAM
Intel i5 CPU
ATI Radeon HD 5800
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