Vengeance

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well if it's gonna be awhile till they fixing it I suggest practecing it.

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nerf storm teamssssssss

Storm team>>>>vengeance dependent jump team.

Man this is reeeally sad, so this means that the matches that we lost and will lose will probably be to veng teams cuz we had no idea of the vengeance bug exploit at the time?!
I would love a solution to this becuz I really don't see the point in having SG matches unless just for sparring. If each SG truly agrees not to use the veng exploit then maybe but still gah.

Storms are fine as are.
Our jump team has beaten our 4 storm team.

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Our jump team has beaten our 4 storm team.

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...on the Eden map.

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Our jump team has beaten our 4 storm team.

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...on the Eden map.

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Acutally, last time we drew the eden map, storm won.

I just hope vengeance gets nerfed soon or organized pvp will take a huge toll of interest.

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I just hope vengeance gets nerfed soon or organized pvp will take a huge toll of interest.

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I just hope vengeance gets nerfed soon or organized pvp will take a huge toll of interest.

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too late for that. It already has. Additionally. with so many groups gone from the game, most of the talent that stuck around has migrated to the freaks. While it makes you guys even more of a powerhouse and the team to beat so to speak...there really isnt anybody for you to compete with, with or without vengeance. I dont mean that as a knock on anybody. a 27 member SG really isnt that large...but its definetely pretty big compared to other PvP SG's these days. I just have a feeling the only real competition you'll face is amongst your own ranks. Hell that might even be more fun because that takes a lot of the player ego's and worrying about winning/losing out of the picture. That to me can make pvp so much more fun. Though i hope im wrong, and vengeance gets fixed and interest grows.

Allowing blasters to 2 shot squishies really ruined the team aspect of coordination.

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Storms are fine as are.
Our jump team has beaten our 4 storm team.

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Not really. Being able to put someones Rng in the negatives is just retarded.

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I just hope vengeance gets nerfed soon or organized pvp will take a huge toll of interest.

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too late for that. It already has. Additionally. with so many groups gone from the game, most of the talent that stuck around has migrated to the freaks. While it makes you guys even more of a powerhouse and the team to beat so to speak...there really isnt anybody for you to compete with, with or without vengeance. I dont mean that as a knock on anybody. a 27 member SG really isnt that large...but its definetely pretty big compared to other PvP SG's these days. I just have a feeling the only real competition you'll face is amongst your own ranks. Hell that might even be more fun because that takes a lot of the player ego's and worrying about winning/losing out of the picture. That to me can make pvp so much more fun. Though i hope im wrong, and vengeance gets fixed and interest grows.

Allowing blasters to 2 shot squishies really ruined the team aspect of coordination.

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The only competition that the Freaks will face will be against themselves? Ummmm lol?

Our jump team has beaten our storm team on every offical map cept the lab.

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I just hope vengeance gets nerfed soon or organized pvp will take a huge toll of interest.

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too late for that. It already has. Additionally. with so many groups gone from the game, most of the talent that stuck around has migrated to the freaks. While it makes you guys even more of a powerhouse and the team to beat so to speak...there really isnt anybody for you to compete with, with or without vengeance. I dont mean that as a knock on anybody. a 27 member SG really isnt that large...but its definetely pretty big compared to other PvP SG's these days. I just have a feeling the only real competition you'll face is amongst your own ranks. Hell that might even be more fun because that takes a lot of the player ego's and worrying about winning/losing out of the picture. That to me can make pvp so much more fun. Though i hope im wrong, and vengeance gets fixed and interest grows.

Allowing blasters to 2 shot squishies really ruined the team aspect of coordination.

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yup yup

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Our jump team has beaten our storm team on every offical map cept the lab.

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Ok?

So your starting jump team beat your starting storm, even though you have some people on the same team? K

So wait, the general direction of this thread is that Venge = easymode, but storm teams are fine?


LOLOLLOLLOLOLLOLOLLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLLOLOLLOLLOLOLLOOO LOLOLLOLOLOLLOLLOL

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So wait, the general direction of this thread is that Venge = easymode, but storm teams are fine?


LOLOLLOLLOLOLLOLOLLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLLOLOLLOLLOLOLLOOO LOLOLLOLOLOLLOLLOL

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I know, its kind of funny

Here we go.

I'll take extra-butter on my popcorn, please.

No drink?

any particular reason your getting bent sky_wolf?

In regards to my post about competition, vengeance, and players from LD, Penance, and HVND migrating to the Freaks, i meant to simply illustrate that the Freaks were a great team before, and now they are not only great, but deep. It would be no suprise to me if they mopped up every other PvP SG. Could they lose to a Velocity, Old School, JAL, whoever? Sure i suppose the could. I just dont think it is very likely at this point in time, and that they very well may find the most enjoyable pvp amongst their ranks, in a no pressure environment. I was stating also that because a lot of the existing talent has found a home their, that i think that may work against them a bit in terms of finding PvP Matches. I think that is a larger roadblock than vengeance. Although i dont like vengeance stacking because i see how it deystroys coordinating offense when a blaster can pop 2 reds, hit aim, and build up, and 2 shot a squishy, where before, you needed multiple ppl working together to take someone out.

Does it take coordination to gather and stack? Sure it does, but that act of team coordination can be used for many other buffs besides Vengeance.

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any particular reason your getting bent sky_wolf?



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No, im just bored.

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So wait, the general direction of this thread is that Venge = easymode, but storm teams are fine?


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Storm teams have counters...they just arent your typical 2 or 3 fire blasters running around killing everything. Reason why storm is so great against run and gun is that not only can they debuff range, and resistance, they offer resistance to fire dmg in Steamy Mist. Something that is VERY overlooked in team pvp in my opinion. If you simply ran a heavy rad team, id bet money that it could defeat a storm team by stacking AM's, and applying debuffs on called targets. It may be able to even draw a stalemate on an office type map as well.

will that rad team beat a regular run and gun team? not likely. But you get the picture.

Vengeance is a different topic. Vengeance is something that could be taken on ANY mix of toons. Hell you could even have a storm team with stacked vengeance if you wanted.

It is universal. Your comparisons of veng and storms teams are apples and oranges in my opinion.

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any particular reason your getting bent sky_wolf?



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No, im just bored.

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hehe, great answer. that works for me.

arctic air = steamy mist i'm assuming