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The reason its not been fixed by now is because lol villianside.
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Im surprised mommy let you stay up till 10:30 to post that.
There are some people intelligently trying to make a point in here, you aren't one of them.
And u r?
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And u r?
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I m. N I c u r 2. o k?
We don' need no stinkin' signatures!
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The reason its not been fixed by now is because lol villianside.
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Im surprised mommy let you stay up till 10:30 to post that.
There are some people intelligently trying to make a point in here, you aren't one of them.
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the point of lol villainside is actually quite intelligent because it takes intelligence to notice Double Standards, and total Unbalance
hi, sry to bump such an old thread
but what i gather is that when using a power, the effect attached to it (i.e. -def) is preventing placate from functioning correctly/working at all. i wanted to see if anyone had effectively found the "work-around" for said bug?
i tried skimming the posts for an answer, but it seemed like towards the end it just turned into a flame-fest with no real info being posted anymore
Also wanted to add a comment on this issue overall:
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Just because a bug isnt game breaking for an AT doesn't that It shouldn't be fixed at all.
The reason its not been fixed by now is because lol villianside.
Just a couple months ago a few tanks were having some problems with gauntlet not working. *gasp*
Not game breaking in any way, but still a problem that needed to be fixed. So, all the servers were brought down during the day to fix it.
Its been well over a year since placate was addressed.
Fix the dang thing already.
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*GASP* That post almost makes too much sense!!!
I couldn't agree more, it's annoying to see that a tanker bug which was in existence that wasn't game breaking or made the tankers not tank well, yet the servers were brought down for what 3 hours? Just to fix this bug and yet placate is still not fixed.
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Have to 3rd that.
but imho, it seems that tanks are VERY popular
and are easily top 3 among AT's (if not THE top).
So assuming the above to be true, and you had one of the most played AT's glitched,
it would have affected most players logged-in at any given time.
Which would be something of a top priority (but not to downplay the Placate bug at all.)
But even if Gauntlet was glitched, wouldnt you still have Taunt to fall back on?
True, you couldnt punch-voke, But you COULD still Taunt.
You could still be a very effective tank with taunt and no gauntlet.
But i dont see you being as effective w/ gauntlet, but no taunt.
imo, Doesnt seem sooo serious that it required a total shutdown of the servers lol.
But anyways, To clarify, i 100% agree that stalker attacks' 2ndary effects (-def, -speed, etc.)
should NOT negate placate's effect and a fix is in order.
Its almost like giving an indirect punishment or handicap to a player for having an added effect.
Scary thing is though, that in essence makes EVERY spines/em/dm power other than AS almost ineffective.
Thats a Huge Bug.
You have now limited a player who chooses one of these powersets to either:
#1. using only AS--> Placate--> Hide--> Rinse--> Repeat as a means of attack
or #2. NOT choose/use Placate. Which is insane, considering that its one of the main stratagies/necessities in being a stalker.
but w/o placate, how could you even...i mean...its just....
...actually, nevermind that. i will just say that option #2 is so ludicrous, that i dont have the time to list every reason why its wrong.
Lastly, Not counting AS, a total of 25 out of the 42 available attacks available across all stalker sets would suffer from this bug.
Thats over half. Wow.
So basically that means while using Placate in PvP:
Negates the use of ALL Spines attacks.
All DM atks.
All EM atks.
And Most of NB's.
And this isnt a problem?
Well, i guess u could slot brawl as a viable option...
Can ANY body, dev or not, hero side or villian, honestly say thats "not a top priority" ?
At the very least, it should be considered for fixing as an on-going and very noteworthy bug.
still <3 CoX though, probs and all.
hey, after all, nobody's perfect...
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The reason its not been fixed by now is because lol villianside.
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Im surprised mommy let you stay up till 10:30 to post that.
There are some people intelligently trying to make a point in here, you aren't one of them.
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Your mom.
And since intelligence is on your mind, Id like to point out that there is zero intelligent thought in existance that would be an acceptable reason to not fix this.
Interesting news, everyone!
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Placate is bugged and wont work if an effect from a previous attack (a stun, a dot, etc) is still effecting the person youre attempting to placate.
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Code issue. Hopefully this will be fixed when we do some work on Stalkers between issues.
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This is Castle, here.
Doom.
Yep.
This is really doom.
Very nice!
Only about 19 months since the issue was addressed but its still better than nothing.
Only reason it hasn't been addressed yet is because it is a code bug. This means that it falls on the responsibility of the people who work on all of the global bugs, meaning if it comes down to a global issue or Placate, the global issue gets picked.
I just guess they have always had some kind of issue to work on OR they have just put it aside and decided to look at the AT as a whole so that they can fix everything at once instead of bits and pieces over time.
Actually, castle said that they would put placate fixing on the back burner and classify it as "low priority" because stalker "do good in pvp."
That was only the reason at first. However as it grew to be a bigger problem because of how many people complained about it I had PMed him and he gave me the response that I posted before.
Whatever needed to calm the masses for the time being.
How about they change the tier 1 attacks across all primaries to accept sleep sets so we can at least slot the placate proc which ISNT broken,ironically-ooo so mad
The Placate proc is broken. I proved that long ago.
Doom.
Yep.
This is really doom.
Its works perfectly in poison gas arrow-Luminara was right
This silly bug has been around longer than I have, and if it ever does get fixed, I'll consider re-activating my account.
CoX is a PvE game, PvP takes a back seat, perioid
Is there any word on this at all? If/maybe it'll get fixed?
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Is there any word on this at all? If/maybe it'll get fixed?
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Well, since I12 stalkers have gained some significant buffs including Tuesdays MA animation changes. Yet, no new news on the placate bug. Anyone else find this peculiar?
Perhaps Castle is waiting to see the ramifications of the Stalker buffs on PvP. Remember, he already said he didn't like the idea of Stalkers being buffed in PvP. He's probably been sweating bullets, hoping he didn't break anything.
Doom.
Yep.
This is really doom.
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Perhaps Castle is waiting to see the ramifications of the Stalker buffs on PvP. Remember, he already said he didn't like the idea of Stalkers being buffed in PvP. He's probably been sweating bullets, hoping he didn't break anything.
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Agreed, but I would still give up any of those buffs for fixed placate.
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Perhaps Castle is waiting to see the ramifications of the Stalker buffs on PvP. Remember, he already said he didn't like the idea of Stalkers being buffed in PvP. He's probably been sweating bullets, hoping he didn't break anything.
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I don't see how he can be "sweating bullets' (not saying he is) but I'm sure he's concerned when we have ice/ and fire/ blasters just doing incredible amount of damage with the new defiance. It just seems like Castle is biased against stalkers yet blasters got this defiance which helped them A LOT.
I'd also like to add Defiance is what brutes should've gotten for the fury fix instead of that so called "fix" they got.
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Perhaps Castle is waiting to see the ramifications of the Stalker buffs on PvP.
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Perhaps Castle can't code, and therefore can't fix the bug himself.
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Perhaps Castle is waiting to see the ramifications of the Stalker buffs on PvP.
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Perhaps Castle can't code, and therefore can't fix the bug himself.
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DOES he code?
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Perhaps Castle is waiting to see the ramifications of the Stalker buffs on PvP.
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Perhaps Castle can't code, and therefore can't fix the bug himself.
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DOES he code?
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I don't think he really does. I think it's more Pohsyb being the coder side of it.
Castle just uses what is available to put things together. Kinda like making an X-Wing out of Lego's before the Star Wars Lego's were released. Sure it may look like an X-Wing, but it certainly isn't perfect what with the mishmash of blue and red blocks instead of all grey, but hey it's what was available and works! (Yes, I actually did this with lego's 
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(To be honest, I don't really know if he does code or not but based on the whole Fury was fixed when Pohsyb went and changed the whole flagging stuff so that EB's and AV's could be flagged for the Fury boost. Then Castle went to sit down and fix Fury finding out it was already fixed)
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Why do I have the feeling you have no idea what it is you are actually saying? Placate was not nerfed....it was bugged.
For the record, I did not say i6 was when I started, I just said i6 was when Stalkers came into the game. So I was not trying to push vet status on you, was merely showing you my experience with the AT. If it is Vet status you want, then try i2, as that was when I started playing this game.
If I had not been so familiar with the Stalker AT, I would have never noticed the Placate bug to begin with, as I was the first person to notice the bug and place a complaint on the forums, but at that time, nobody else noticed it and brushed it off as false. It was not until a couple months later that it was finally recognized and a Sticky was made about it.
But....I am however currious....Why are you here again? Because I do not see you putting forth any suggestion that would help fix the obvious bug. I only see you attempting to discredit and belittle anyone wanting anything to do with fixing the issue.
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I remember that post.