_Castle_ Can you at least tell us this?


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I know most of the details concerning issue 7 changes and upgrades are kind of secret till it hits test server. I wanted to know could you at least tell us what you can about dark melee and dark armor for stalkers.

I have a few questions.

1. Will dark armor be a resist based set or will it be just defense like most of the other stalker secondaries?
2. Will we get touch of fear?
3. Will stalkers get build up in place of soul drain?
4. Since stalkers already get hide at lvl 1 will they be getting cloak of darkness as well?
5. Will they have the same knockdown penalty as the other dark armor scrappers have dealt with?
6. How will powers such as cloak of fear, oppressive gloom, and death shourd work for dark armor? This one has really been on my mind because the whole point of being a stalker is being undetectable most of the time so to me those powers while good as they are would be counter productive to being a stalker.
7. Will we also get that gawd awful lvl 38 power they call a rez?


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Answers:

1. Wait till Issue 7 comes out on test server
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3. Wait till Issue 7 comes out on test server
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5. Wait till Issue 7 comes out on test server
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I have a few questions.

1. Will dark armor be a resist based set or will it be just defense like most of the other stalker secondaries?

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Resist with a bit of Defense tossed in.

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2. Will we get touch of fear?

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Unless it changes during testing, yes.

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3. Will stalkers get build up in place of soul drain?

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Build Up. Soul Drain would be counter productive.

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4. Since stalkers already get hide at lvl 1 will they be getting cloak of darkness as well?

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Hide replaces Cloak of Shadow.

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5. Will they have the same knockdown penalty as the other dark armor scrappers have dealt with?

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Yes.

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6. How will powers such as cloak of fear, oppressive gloom, and death shourd work for dark armor? This one has really been on my mind because the whole point of being a stalker is being undetectable most of the time so to me those powers while good as they are would be counter productive to being a stalker.

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Death Shroud is not given to Stalkers. Oppressive Gloom and Cloak of Fear operate exactly like the Scrapper version. It isn't wise to leave these on while attempting to Assassin Strike...

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7. Will we also get that gawd awful lvl 38 power they call a rez?

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Soul Transfer is still on the list.

List (barring changes in test)
Hide
Dark Embrace
Murky Cloud
Shadow Dweller
Obsidian Shield
Dark Regeneration
Cloak of Fear
Oppressive Gloom
Soul Transfer

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Answers:

1. Wait till Issue 7 comes out on test server
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3. Wait till Issue 7 comes out on test server
4. Wait till Issue 7 comes out on test server
5. Wait till Issue 7 comes out on test server
6. Wait till Issue 7 comes out on test server
7. Wait till Issue 7 comes out on test server

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Haha!

I just hope they:[*]Remove the PBAoE's from the DA set (Death Shroud, CoF, Oppressive Gloom) [*]Replace rez with an uber 38 powers[*]Replace Soul Drain with Build Up[*]Replace Shadow Maul with a different, non-DoT attack. Same recharge, base acc, secondary, effect, etc., but not DoT.

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7. Will we also get that gawd awful lvl 38 power they call a rez?

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Soul Transfer is still on the list.

List (barring changes in test)
Hide
Dark Embrace
Murky Cloud
Shadow Dweller
Obsidian Shield
Dark Regeneration
Cloak of Fear
Oppressive Gloom
Soul Transfer

EDIT: Formatting was [censored]'d

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Shadow Dweller? Gasp!

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Answers:

1. Wait till Issue 7 comes out on test server
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Cloak of Fear
Oppressive Gloom
Soul Transfer

Darn. This'll kill trying dark armor for me

On the DM side, ToF would be nice.


 

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I have a few questions.

1. Will dark armor be a resist based set or will it be just defense like most of the other stalker secondaries?

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Resist with a bit of Defense tossed in.


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Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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2. Will we get touch of fear?

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Unless it changes during testing, yes.

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Awesome

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3. Will stalkers get build up in place of soul drain?

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Build Up. Soul Drain would be counter productive.


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Yup, just like follow up for Claws.

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4. Since stalkers already get hide at lvl 1 will they be getting cloak of darkness as well?

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Hide replaces Cloak of Shadow.


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Unless DA gets another stealth I don't see how it will be balanced with the other set's Tier 9 defenses.

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5. Will they have the same knockdown penalty as the other dark armor scrappers have dealt with?

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Yes.


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No biggie... I expected this for Fear protection.

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6. How will powers such as cloak of fear, oppressive gloom, and death shourd work for dark armor? This one has really been on my mind because the whole point of being a stalker is being undetectable most of the time so to me those powers while good as they are would be counter productive to being a stalker.

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Death Shroud is not given to Stalkers. Oppressive Gloom and Cloak of Fear operate exactly like the Scrapper version. It isn't wise to leave these on while attempting to Assassin Strike...


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Wait... so soul transfer is "counter productive" yet CoF and OG remain? I'm confused.

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7. Will we also get that gawd awful lvl 38 power they call a rez?

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Soul Transfer is still on the list.


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ROFL

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List (barring changes in test)
Hide
Dark Embrace
Murky Cloud
Shadow Dweller
Obsidian Shield
Dark Regeneration
Cloak of Fear
Oppressive Gloom
Soul Transfer


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I hope Shadow Dweller, is another form of Stealth. Dark Regen should be a self heal that doesn't need to hit targets... or I don't see how that isn't "counter productive" as well.


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Thanks again _Castle_.


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Well, dark regen is an insanely powerful heal, so I'd think that makes up for it.


 

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I'm assuming "Shadow Dweller" is the defense you're talking about. But could it be another Stealth power?


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Shadow Dweller

I'm thinking Pasive hide of some sort? Maybe a pasive Placate effect?

Could just be an AoE Placate.


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I hope Shadow Dweller, is another form of Stealth. Dark Regen should be a self heal that doesn't need to hit targets... or I don't see how that isn't "counter productive" as well.

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My guess is it's just a passive neg & maybe energy/cold res or def. That seems to be what they add when they are lacking powers. Also a good choice for a power to skip!

I'm annoyed that dark regen is so late in the tree, but it is a pretty awesome power. Imho dark regen, cof & og are the dark armor set - the wackiness that make it what it is. I doubt they'll ever do anything to Soul Transfer as long as the other self rez powers are in the game - so never.


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It sounds like DA will be the 'scrappiest' defense set for Stalkers, with CoF and OG available to toggle on to help mitigate incoming damage, though the self damage aspect of OG will be brutal on a Stalker, with such a low base Health. So someone could make a Claws/DA Stalker and almost feel like a Scrapper, with the damage over time nature and lower End usage of Claws.

I'm very curious what Shadow Dweller is and if it'll have Immobilize protection, which DA lacks.


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OMG I cant believe I forgot to ask this.

8. What power is on the chopping block in place of assasins strike?
9. Will we keep shadow maul?

I am glad it will be a resist set, finally a stalker that can take a hit without dying so fast after an assasin strike . I know defense will be getting buffed but even then I dont see it making too much of a difference given there is always that 5% of getting completely owned.


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energy aura has repulse and energy drain that are both aoes, that require a tohit or hit, breaking hide. I don't see how much different that is from lets say og or dark regen.


 

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energy aura has repulse and energy drain that are both aoes, that require a tohit or hit, breaking hide. I don't see how much different that is from lets say og or dark regen.

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From my experiences, Energy Drain is autohit.


 

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I'm very curious what Shadow Dweller is and if it'll have Immobilize protection, which DA lacks.

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DA Scrappers get their immobilize protection from their Stealth toggle. They only status effect DA is weak to are KB and confuse.


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OMG I cant believe I forgot to ask this.

8. What power is on the chopping block in place of assasins strike?
9. Will we keep shadow maul?

I am glad it will be a resist set, finally a stalker that can take a hit without dying so fast after an assasin strike . I know defense will be getting buffed but even then I dont see it making too much of a difference given there is always that 5% of getting completely owned.

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8. I'm still sticking with my prediction of Dark Consumption, especially since ToF is confirmed to be staying in.
9. Don't see why not, the other sets kept their cone melee attacks.


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I'm very curious what Shadow Dweller is and if it'll have Immobilize protection, which DA lacks.

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DA Scrappers get their immobilize protection from their Stealth toggle. They only status effect DA is weak to are KB and confuse.

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I know. The Stalker DA lost it.


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Wouldn't ASSASSIN MAUL! just be uber?

Wait . . .


 

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Wait... so soul transfer is "counter productive" yet CoF and OG remain? I'm confused.

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OG and CoF are defensive countermeasures you can activate after breaking hide. Soul Drain is what you use to boost your damage and accuracy. Since Stalkers need to do this before they attack, Soul Drain simply wouldn't work for Dark Melee any more than Follow Up did for Claws.

You can't compare CoF/OG with Soul Drain and treat them as even remotely similar powers.


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OMG I cant believe I forgot to ask this.

8. What power is on the chopping block in place of assasins strike?
9. Will we keep shadow maul?

I am glad it will be a resist set, finally a stalker that can take a hit without dying so fast after an assasin strike . I know defense will be getting buffed but even then I dont see it making too much of a difference given there is always that 5% of getting completely owned.

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8. I'm still sticking with my prediction of Dark Consumption, especially since ToF is confirmed to be staying in.
9. Don't see why not, the other sets kept their cone melee attacks.

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Shadow Punch
Smite
Shadow Maul
Assassin Strike
Build Up
Placate
Touch of Fear
Dark Consumption
Midnight Grasp

Just a guess.


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Damn, that's gonna make me try a dark stalker, I know it is...

...but just curious, if possible for you to answer. Why leave in so many PBAOEs when they go basically against the base idea of a Stalker? Might make for some interesting playstyles, I guess, but...

Seems a bit odd?


 

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You can't compare CoF/OG with Soul Drain and treat them as even remotely similar powers.

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I see your point... I just don't see how they can be all that useful for a DA Stalker if you can only use them when not Hidden.

With DA being RES based it's already starting off at a disadvantage. I was hoping that DA would get a some of the tricks that Ninjitsu gets (especially in absense of an Eludeish copy).

At least Regen will no longer be the most gimp of the Stalker secondaries.


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