Let me know if any of my girls can help. I am @Iron Vixen globally in game. I am mostly on my villainesses on Virtue right now so global is the best way to plan. Or PM me here. I check in at least a couple times a day.
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We are Tanks not tanks... notice I captialized Tank. Tank is the CoH archetype. tank is the MMO class/role of meatshield. I want to be a Tank not a tank.
I wanna be a fighter... one who is touger than he is strong. Slow and powerfull with a heavy fist and slow feet. The big guy with tough armor and a strong arm. I dont want to be a wall of hitpoints walking around screaming obscenities at folks and relying on people to keep me alive.
I want to Tank not tank.
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Well, some of us are 6'5" masochistic dominatrices, light and nimble on our feet, who run into the middle of a sea of pain and misery, and deal a little back out, simply because that's what we enjoy.
But that's neither here nor there. 
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Say, have you met Ivy's Brute? 
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We are Tanks not tanks... notice I captialized Tank. Tank is the CoH archetype. tank is the MMO class/role of meatshield. I want to be a Tank not a tank.
I wanna be a fighter... one who is touger than he is strong. Slow and powerfull with a heavy fist and slow feet. The big guy with tough armor and a strong arm. I dont want to be a wall of hitpoints walking around screaming obscenities at folks and relying on people to keep me alive.
I want to Tank not tank.
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Well, some of us are 6'5" masochistic dominatrices, light and nimble on our feet, who run into the middle of a sea of pain and misery, and deal a little back out, simply because that's what we enjoy.
But that's neither here nor there.
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Say, have you met Ivy's Brute?
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Yes, I have the scars to prove it!
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Let me know if any of my girls can help. I am @Iron Vixen globally in game. I am mostly on my villainesses on Virtue right now so global is the best way to plan. Or PM me here. I check in at least a couple times a day.
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Thank you so much, Vixen. The line-up of volunteers really reads like a who's who of the AT.
And to the two folks who posted the rants in the last two pages:
It's the easy way out to whine about how things are and say "what's the use?" It's a far better thing to try and support your claim and impart that information to the proper people even if it's ultimately futile. A good, fair fight is a glorious thing to behold and to partake in.
Mr. Lithuania
Jessica to Nathan in bed: "I'm not really bad, Isaac just drew me that way."
We should probably put a global channel on test as well. Would make finding us all easier when we get there. I know this is for fact finding and all that to get us fixed, but, it kinda feels like the first tank night I ever attended. Hmmm....I may have a treat for you guys, won't know till I get home and hook my 120 gig storage drvie and find out.
Prof
Well, I think it is futile. I think the Dev's have decided our fate and anything that can be worked out that might allow a Tank to continue to tank in what has been a reasonable fashion will be seen as overpowered and nerfed also, but I will leave you to it. Good luck.
Quixotik
"I did not say this. I am not here." -Guild Navigator
The point of the game of course it to have fun. This isn't about making the world a better place, world hunger, peace, or democracy.
I do have this sense that this is like the "Death March of the Tankers," however, if nothing else, it sounds like it will bring together people that actually care about the game, and that is really the point. If you need/want another character in the mix, I have a level 32 (will likely be 33 by the time you get this going) Stone/Ice Tank, specced for taunt-bot/aggro magnet (no hasten though, an experiment of sorts). I have a variety of characters over the level range in question (50 Stone/Mace, 39 Mind/Rad, 38 Nrg/Dev, 42 Dark/Dark), so if any of them can help in testing, keep them in mind.
Me, I'll be there for the fun of it, and if it is the Tanker's epitaph, at least I can say I was there to see it (although I suspect that Stone/X will still remain viable for taking the hits).
Hey guys, I'm not sure when you are all planning the test, but if it's a weekend thing, as that is the only time I have access to CoH, I'd gladly bring my lvl 28 Stone/Stone if you want to run any pre-GA tests. If you need me, my global is @BrickBash
Otherwise, best of luck.
Count the Maltese Knight in on that one.
Just post when.
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It's the easy way out to whine about how things are and say "what's the use?" It's a far better thing to try and support your claim and impart that information to the proper people even if it's ultimately futile. A good, fair fight is a glorious thing to behold and to partake in.
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To dream the impossible dream
To fight the unbeatable foe
To bear with unbearable sorrow
To run where the brave dare not go.
To right the unrightable wrong
To be better far than you are
To try when your arms are too weary
To reach the unreachable star.
This is my quest, to follow that star,
No matter how hopeless, no matter how far
To be willing to give when there's no more to give
To be willing to die so that honor and justice may live
And I know if I'll only be true to this glorious quest
That my heart will lie peaceful and calm when I'm laid to my rest
And the world will be better for this
That one person scorned and covered with scars
Still strove with thier last ounce of courage
To reach the unreachable star.
Amen, Tom. Let's do this.
"I never said thank you." - Lt. Gordon
"And you'll never have to." - the Dark Knight
Tom, I know already told you I was in, just don't want you to foget to put me on the list, I can get my hands on a 41 fire/fire tank if you want. A real life buddy of mine has one that he will let me copy.
Also, I have a lvl 16 ff def, kin/elec def, ill/ff troller, ice/ice blaster. Say the word and I will run them up the levels. I also have a lvl 24 ish fire/nrg tank.
And Myr, pm that poem to Statesman.
Prof
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Actually, it's not easy.
Not giving up on my Claws/Regen for every Issue (and in-between!) finally caught up with me in Issue 5.
Spending more that a year trying to squeeze every bit of performance out of a Hero (so I wouldn't have to take MoG or IH) kinda beat the feedback out of me.
I finally caved in and respecced into IH....a few days before the new, "click" version.
Now I play Defenders, since they provide a visible benefit to the Team that my "concept" Tanks and Scrappers no longer can.
Now, that said, if you're interested in adding some Heroes to the team, by all means let me know. At the moment, I've got:
L31 Energy/Energy Blapper
L36 FF/Psi Defender (2)
L37 Empathy/Psi Defender
L27 Sonic/Sonic Defender (2)
Any of those should fill out the "non-Tank" part of the pentad just fine.
While I have zero interest in testing some more, I'm always very interested in playing with a good team. 
Thanks,
-> Scott.
Currently playing:
Infaerna Who knew Fire/Fire Brutes were fun to play?
ill put up a 50 ff/rad, 38 ma/sr, and 32 vunerability/ss tank
just give me the time so i can makwe the peoer test transfers
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This is the size of group that we have balanced AVs for, 6.
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Noticed that too Tom. Stopped posting didn't see the point. I totally understand and agree with much of the feelings but it isn't getting us anywhere. Chatman thanks for trying too.
Nov 16 put your post up and we'll give this a whirl. I might try and do some this weekend if my pals are about to help, if not then I'll wait.
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DO, any good data is a good thing. They're already doing some interesting stuff with the AV thread. I'll make a hardcopy of the team construction thoughts so they're not lost if something happens to the thread.
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Agreed, thanksgiving is too far away, and I think most of the useful planning we can do 3 weeks in advance is already done. All this good testing talk has brought my testing/analysis motivation back up after all the dev stonewalling sapped my enthusiasm. I'll see if I can finish coding my TTL analysis package, and find some extreme cases to test.
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Ok so when is this happening? I have to download the updates from test so that might take a while and if possible I don't want to miss this event. I'll bring My lvl41 inv/axe and anything else I have that can help.
The Coh version of the 300 Spartans. Last march of the Tankers.
Shell game: Arc_ID:417344: It can't be good for humanity if the Circle of Thorns, Banished Pantheon and The Vahzilok are making deals.
A Final Solution: Arc_ID:402587: Earth is under stress. Every being she has spawned and some she hasn't want to possess her. Some of her children believe they have a way to put a stop to this and bring a peace.
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Noticed that too Tom. Stopped posting didn't see the point. I totally understand and agree with much of the feelings but it isn't getting us anywhere. Chatman thanks for trying too.
Nov 16 put your post up and we'll give this a whirl. I might try and do some this weekend if my pals are about to help, if not then I'll wait.
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DO, any good data is a good thing. They're already doing some interesting stuff with the AV thread. I'll make a hardcopy of the team construction thoughts so they're not lost if something happens to the thread.
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Agreed, thanksgiving is too far away, and I think most of the useful planning we can do 3 weeks in advance is already done. All this good testing talk has brought my testing/analysis motivation back up after all the dev stonewalling sapped my enthusiasm. I'll see if I can finish coding my TTL analysis package, and find some extreme cases to test.
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Ok so when is this happening? I have to download the updates from test so that might take a while and if possible I don't want to miss this event. I'll bring My lvl41 inv/axe and anything else I have that can help.
The Coh version of the 300 Spartans. Last march of the Tankers.
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Current plan is to start at noon eastern time on Saturday November 26th. I'll start constructing the team and setting the boundary conditions on the 16th in this forum.
Mr. Lithuania
Jessica to Nathan in bed: "I'm not really bad, Isaac just drew me that way."
I can contribute my level 50 Ice/Axe Tanker for some testing. I also have a Dark/Dark Defender in the low 30's, and a MA/Regen Scrapper in the mid 30's.
Same here I always at the service of the tank community.Also I think Im goin to virtue to see how strong is Vixen's brute..( I know its gonna hurt but my curiosity stills gets the best from me)
I'll join in, too, Tom. I've got two Inv tankers that I can use with or without invincibility (I'm crazy like that), a decent scrapper and a bunch of lowbies as well if you need low-level blasters, scrappers or controllers.
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Prof
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I would, Prof, but he wouldn't get it.
"I never said thank you." - Lt. Gordon
"And you'll never have to." - the Dark Knight
No, we're frontline.
Frontline does not necessarily equal damage dealer, however, just that you can take damage.
I wouldn't put scrappers as a frontline unless I had no other choice.
Scrappers are not frontline, they're flankers and damage dealers. Boss-killers (though that might instead by changed to Boss-Finishers).
Blasters are not frontline either, they're artillary and minion clearers for the most part, with ice being good boss-finishers as well.
Controllers and Defenders are definitely not frontline either, they're support.
The only real AT we have that can really frontline on its own is a tanker. However, for a true frontline, you'd need a tanker and scrapper set to combine defense and offense.
Incidentally, I play a Fire/Fire tank, an Earth/Ice tank and a Ice/SS tank. The Ice/SS is designed for solo work, and I won't team with her for fear of getting my team in danger through lack of aggro control. The Fire/Fire and the Earth/Ice are slotted for weekly sessions I play with specific teams and are designed for use with those teams and might not work as well with other teams.
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"Notice at the end, there: Arcanaville did the math and KICKED IT INTO EXISTENCE." - Ironik on the power of Arcanaville's math
Must save thread, keep Statesman example of "Tanking" for reference...
The stuff of heroes is within us all
It is the ability to go beyond the normal routine and to lend help to those who need it.
Give food to the hungry,
Freedom to the oppressed,
Safety to the victim
and peace to the survivors of war.
We may remember as a child, the so-called golden rule:
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
To be ahero is to live by those words.
It is as simple as that.
Prof
Here are my two cents.
We the players, and tankers in particular, have a lot to be upset about.
Statesman has told us a blatent lie.
Even it's name, Enhancement Diversification, is misleading and probably some PR guys "brilliant" solution to what is in fact a global enhancement nerf. How can you create diversity by taking options away? Oh thats right, you can still 6 slot things, it just doesn't give you any significant benefit. And again, how does this encourage us to use the enhancements that weren't worth slotting for to begin with? Oh, thats right, it doesn't. Bottom line, these changes were made because of CoV. More specifically, the powers gained by brutes, dominators, etc.. that raise the damage they can do. Without this global nerf, they would have been out of line, and for whatever reason it was easier to nerf globaly, than to adjust their effectiveness.
If you had been upfront and honest and said, "Due to CoV and upcoming PvP changes, we will be making severe changes to the effeciveness of enhancements. We realize that this will effect many powers and AT's differently, and we will be watching close and making adjustments as necassary" it would have stung a lot less than this ED crap. Your customers are not stupid. Lieing to us pisses us off more than the nerfs. Piss us off enough, and we WILL take our business else where.
Throw us a bone states. Our Primary powers are now less effective 6 slotted than they were unenhanced in I4 (Inv anyways). There is something very wrong with this. We were the only AT that did not get compensated for the nerfs in I5. Scrappers defenses were hit too, but they got boosted damage to compensate. What did Tanks get? Nothing and different sets got further nerfed.
Boost our base defenses/resists more, or raise our HP some. Make it soe we can no longer be two shotted by certain types. Maybe give us a new power, where the lower our hp goes, the higher defenses and resists go. Something!
You hit us hard because of herding. You kinda fixed it with the aggro cap, but it still happens. Only now it's scrappers who do it well, not tanks. It's time to re-[censored] tanks and make some adjustments back closer to where we were.
Please don't accuse Statesman of a blatant lie and ask him to throw you a bone in the same post.
Story Arcs I created:
Every Rose: (#17702) Villainous vs Legacy Chain. Forget Arachnos, join the CoT!
Cosplay Madness!: (#3643) Neutral vs Custom Foes. Heroes at a pop culture convention!
Kiss Hello Goodbye: (#156389) Heroic vs Custom Foes. Film Noir/Hardboiled detective adventure!
Just for what it's worth, I hope this test proves something because we still have people who don't believe us at all.