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So, I6 goes on test today. Does anyone think we'll have additional nerfs for Regen? Perhaps the coming destruction of Quick Recovery. The lost of the 50% unenhanceable portion of Integration. Making MoG even more useless than it is now?
Inquiring minds want to know.
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D. All of the above
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So, I6 goes on test today. Does anyone think we'll have additional nerfs for Regen? Perhaps the coming destruction of Quick Recovery. The lost of the 50% unenhanceable portion of Integration. Making MoG even more useless than it is now?
Inquiring minds want to know.
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D. All of the above
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You're probably right. I finally settled on an ED compliant build this morning. I was hopeful and happy. Ergo, given the balance of the universe Geko is sad and must nerf Regen until he is happy and EvilGeko is sad again. 
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They will just make reconstruction interuptable.
Yay for aid self!
*blames Evilgeko*
what for ?
Anythign and everything.
and noooo Cuppa hasn't forgotten you padding to 5K in AASQ let me assure you....
No Sireee she hasn't (well wont have when ever I go on about it endlessly)
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ugh! quit being so serious!
Clearly, none of you know what the *real* nerfs will be.
All of the I6 nerfs:
FH: 800% regen
Recon: 300% heal, short recharge
QR: 1200% recovery
DP: 200% max Hp boost/heal
Integration: mag 36 status protection(to all,) 3000% regen, auto power
Resilience: 75% resistance to all, mag 45 status protection(to all)
IH: click(120 second recharge and duration) 10,000% regen(Team PBAoE)
Revive: PBAoE knockback/disorient, self full heal/recovery, self +max hp, self debt protection
MoG: 75% defence and resistance to all, 7,500% boost to regen and recovery, 90% cut to recharge time
It's all true. states told me!
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ugh! quit being so serious!
Clearly, none of you know what the *real* nerfs will be.
All of the I6 nerfs:
FH: 800% regen
Recon: 300% heal, short recharge
QR: 1200% recovery
DP: 200% max Hp boost/heal
Integration: mag 36 status protection(to all,) 3000% regen, auto power
Resilience: 75% resistance to all, mag 45 status protection(to all)
IH: click(120 second recharge and duration) 10,000% regen(Team PBAoE)
Revive: PBAoE knockback/disorient, self full heal/recovery, self +max hp, self debt protection
MoG: 75% defence and resistance to all, 7,500% boost to regen and recovery, 90% cut to recharge time
It's all true. states told me!
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That's what I call serious.
well, looks like the Issue 6 Regen nerf has been confirmed AND in true dev fashion, the nerf was completely unguessed.
* Changed Long and Short Help of Moment of Glory to clarify which Defenses it offers.
So they took the Psy def out of MoG, told us it was never there in the first place and then changed the description so that no one else gets the idea that MoG can defend versus Psy.
Grats devs, truly an inspired and underhanded move.
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Well at least Quick Recovery dodged Issue 6. 
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well, looks like the Issue 6 Regen nerf has been confirmed AND in true dev fashion, the nerf was completely unguessed.
* Changed Long and Short Help of Moment of Glory to clarify which Defenses it offers.
So they took the Psy def out of MoG, told us it was never there in the first place and then changed the description so that no one else gets the idea that MoG can defend versus Psy.
Grats devs, truly an inspired and underhanded move.
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At least they nerfed a power that no one really cared about... even though they gave me a flashback from the first Integration nerf.
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Truedusk - Human Rogue
It's actions like this that make me wonder about the ethics of some of the people on the CoH Dev team.
Virtue: multiple characters.
CoH/V: Woot! Maybe Fun is to be had once again.
Ack! RUN! Regen is glowing mean & green!
If it reduces you, it's a nerf.
If it buffs the mobs, it's challenge.
They are not the same.
I think we should all have our builds 'funchecked' by Statesman, the man with 'the Vision'. At least that way, we'll be having 'fun' according to 'the Vision'.
I really have no clue what to do with my Scrappers anymore -- my last Regen build is barely a month old, and I didn't even get around to respeccing all my other Scrappers. Seems like I might as well not respec them at all, cause at this rate, it's failry certain that another change will come in another month from now.
The changes in themselves I can survive, just not the constant change of my toons that have been around for so long.
what would they do to it? quit worrying so much.
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Nerf it out of existence like with Stalkers. No reason to believe that they won't do it eventually. For 4 out of 6 issues Regen has seen a major reduction of power. No reason to believe they are going to stop.
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what would they do to it? quit worrying so much.
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Nerf it out of existence like with Stalkers. No reason to believe that they won't do it eventually. For 4 out of 6 issues Regen has seen a major reduction of power. No reason to believe they are going to stop.
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Plus at least once in between issues, when Int got stealth ner... bug fixed.
Or when a version of IH was pushed live that was never on test. By the time this happened, everyone was used stealth changes though.
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Or when a version of IH was pushed live that was never on test. By the time this happened, everyone was used stealth changes though.
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if they would have made a big announcement about upping the duration of IH, they would have won some points back. But since people respecced it out with the 60s in mind, the change still ends up being annoying.
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▲Scrapper Issues List - Going Rogue Edition▲
i can see it getting a redu.... wait, i can't even see that happening anymore.
this "it'll be replaced by consume or conserver power" stuff is complete nonesense.
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i can see it getting a redu.... wait, i can't even see that happening anymore.
this "it'll be replaced by consume or conserver power" stuff is complete nonesense.
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Why can't you see it? Seriously. I will admit that I underestimated the devs' capacity for nerfs. I always Expect More Nerfs ((c) EvilGeko 2005), but I really didn't see ED coming. I really didn't think they could surprise me after I5, I was wrong.
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why would they? we're no longer overpowered in general, or in comparison to anyone else. what would the point in nerfing it be?
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why would they? we're no longer overpowered in general, or in comparison to anyone else. what would the point in nerfing it be?
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I'm going to quote a Geko post from the Issue 4 PvP gutting:
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As to why we made the change, the answer is simple. Regen was simply too good in PvE and PvP. As many of you have already said, it was not uncommon to survive a mission 3 levels higher than you built for 3 player, or even take on and defeat an ArchVillain. Combine that with no down time , and Regen Scrappers were unparalleled in PvE and unstoppable in PvP.
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Note the bold red part. That part's still true. Over the course of 2005, the devs have systematically nerfed Regen over and over. Yet, still people complain it's overpowered. Why? No downtime. Even if a Regen just barely survives the fight, within seconds of the fight ending they will be at full health and endurance.
That's the rational reason they might do it.
But they other reason is that they might figure that Regens just don't need it. That's why they took it from Stalkers. Their stated reason was that Stalkers had less toggles than before AND ED although it wasn't mentioned at the time. They might just get up one day and think it's unfair for Regens to have an endurance recovery buff at level 4.
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ah, but no downtime has become slight downtime, and that's our only bonus now. besides, running back from the hospital could easily be interpereted as downtime 
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ah, but no downtime has become slight downtime, and that's our only bonus now. besides, running back from the hospital could easily be interpereted as downtime
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Slight downtime is all a troll needs to go: ZOMG!!!!11!!BBQ!!!11 Regen's are overpowered gods, NERF THEM! 
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From my brief testing last night, I suspect that /regen will be horrid on an 8 man team without a consistant baby sitter.
QR is one of the last few great perks of /regen. Yeah I have a feeling there will be nerf again for /regen in the future. I mean, its only been nerfed, what, every issue to date?
It has become a matter of fact for me that when an issue is due, /regen is getting a nerf.
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ah, but no downtime has become slight downtime, and that's our only bonus now. besides, running back from the hospital could easily be interpereted as downtime
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Slight downtime is all a troll needs to go: ZOMG!!!!11!!BBQ!!!11 Regen's are overpowered gods, NERF THEM!
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been talking to states?
So, I6 goes on test today. Does anyone think we'll have additional nerfs for Regen? Perhaps the coming destruction of Quick Recovery. The lost of the 50% unenhanceable portion of Integration. Making MoG even more useless than it is now?
Inquiring minds want to know.
The City of Heroes Community is a special one and I will always look fondly on my times arguing, discussing and playing with you all. Thanks and thanks to the developers for a special experience.