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That explains alot... Thanks for checking.
Thank you Positron, I really glad you figured out what the problem is. The Sally camping is getting very old. The fact that she has 1HP is fine, she just needed to be spawned more...GJ on fixing it. Thanks again.
Will you have my e-babies?
This certainly is a relief. I once camped that area for about 10 hours. My eyes were bleeding by the end of it.
So is this fix going on now or must we wait?
Edit: Nevermind I cant read
Thanks Posi 
I can understand how you guys realized this too late, the "OMG NERFS!?!" threads have been pushing back many threads on issues that already don't get much attention for various reasons. Thanks for looking into it finally, will this be in the next patch or will it be quick fix and when?
i just wasted the past 5 hours 
Would you mind terribly checking all the other rare monster spawns as well? Some of them like Kraaken, Paladin, and Jurrasik for instance seem to be exceptionally rare as well.
Since you're in the spawn time checkin mood that is...
Great news, btw.
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We have fixed it today (I don't know when it will make it to the Training Room server) so there is a maximum of 1 hour between spawns.
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Just to clarify for someone else who asked - this suggests that the fix isn't on test yet, so it's not on live, either.
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(Nip in the bud time: The spawn was set up in a way that we intended to have her spawn at a much faster rate than she was, but the fact that the spawn was ALSO set up to make sure that only 1 Sally was active at a time prevented her from being spawned at the faster rate. This was not obvious until we investigated claims that it was taking over 4 hours for her to Spawn. In our original thinking, it was just "someone else got to her before you did", but comments from you guys had me go in and investigate it further).
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Thanks, man. Some of us were going crazy over this. 
Darnit Positron, stop listening to us! Otherwise, what will the poor goth wanabees have to complain about on their livejournals while listening to their "Cure" and "Bjork" CDs?
For LaserGods sake, wont someone PLEASE think of the Goth Wannabees?!?!
It's great that you fixed that, Positron.
But can you check to make sure the spawn rates of all the other zone monsters are in line with what they should be too? It's darned near impossible to get the badges for these monsters that show up only once a in blue moon and will only award their badges to the team that did the most damage when they do.
And if the spawn rates are what they should be, can you tell us what they are?
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I said to myself, "Self, that doesn't sound right, she should already be spawning at a better rate than that."
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self for teh win. so now we know who our real true hero is. yep, you guessed it.
[silence ensues, mr3's eyes slightly cross, proud grin on face]
[eyes glaze over, grin droops]
[bubble pops up over mr3's head--match repeatedly striking book, not firing...then finally...]
oh wait...
I sent this following message to posi via private message, i'll copy it here for everyone to see...
Greetings Positrion,
First let me offer you my deepest thanks for posting about Sally's spawn rate. It's really great to know that eventually she'll spawn once an hour and someone like me who has to balance COH with School and Work will be able to get the badge.
Secondly, Would it be possible for you to go over the spawn rates of other monsters. Specifically I mention the Kraken. At least to me this beast is a mythical creature. Despite joining a global channel who's entire purpose it is to capture badges I keep missing chances to catch this monster.
It is very frustrating for me as a player to constantly have to hunt for this thing and never find it, OR miss a chance to defeat it when it finally does spawn.
Could you please look over how often this monster spawns, and perhaps bring the badge award to defeating this monster in line with something like Lusca. If you participate in attacking Kraken, unless you do the majority of the damage you get no badge. I dont think thats particularly fair if you're just unlucky enough to not get a team.
Although a person who only shoots it once and flies away shouldnt get the badge, someone who is attacking the kraken, and maybe within a certain range of it when it dies, should get it.
Thank you for your time, and keep up the great work...
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Ok, we screwed up.
We knew that Sally was going to be rare. We knew that with 1 HP she was going to dive under the water before most people ever saw her. This was going to lead to her being "mythical" and rarely seen on a server. We had a spawn rate in mind when we designed everything, including the lowering the requirements down to 2 Sally Defeats for the Believer badge.
Then I noticed someone asking that the spawn rate be "lowered to 2 1/2 to 3 hours". I said to myself, "Self, that doesn't sound right, she should already be spawning at a better rate than that." So me and one of the programmers went in and looked at the spawn rate.
Yikes.
A minimum of 10 hours between spawns was NEVER our intention. This means Sally would spawn once or twice a DAY. Defeating her twice at this crazy rate is a task I would never wish upon CoH players.
We have fixed it today (I don't know when it will make it to the Training Room server) so there is a maximum of 1 hour between spawns. This still makes her "rare", but it's now within the realm of possibility that casual players will get to defeat her twice within their time in Croatoa, and thus earn the badge.
Again, we are very sorry about this.
(Nip in the bud time: The spawn was set up in a way that we intended to have her spawn at a much faster rate than she was, but the fact that the spawn was ALSO set up to make sure that only 1 Sally was active at a time prevented her from being spawned at the faster rate. This was not obvious until we investigated claims that it was taking over 4 hours for her to Spawn. In our original thinking, it was just "someone else got to her before you did", but comments from you guys had me go in and investigate it further).
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OK, this is just one example of why our devs at CoH are the best around. Whether or not you agree with everything they do, they DO listen to the players and look into things and change where they feel it is necessary.
Great Job Pos. 
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We have fixed it today (I don't know when it will make it to the Training Room server) so there is a maximum of 1 hour between spawns. This still makes her "rare", but it's now within the realm of possibility that casual players will get to defeat her twice within their time in Croatoa, and thus earn the badge.
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AWESOME! Thanks Posi.
However...
Does this mean that all other monsters, since they only need to be defeated once, should be spawning every two hours?
If so, you guys REALLY need to look into Adamastor and the Kraken, among others.
cool, now when i make it to croatoa in like a month or 4 when everyone is gone 
i can get a monster easier, but i have two complaints about monsters to you mr positron (and your TF, but thats another rant)
1. CoH encourages team play, some missions demand it... following me? so, if team play is so encouraged, how come, when we fight a giant monster, something that is destroying the city, only the heroes that do the most damage get a badge, is that like statesman saying "well, good job on working to stop kraken you low security level heroes, but, these higher level heroes did a much better job, and ill be awarding them, not you, go away now."
can i get a good response on this?
ill suggest a SUPER team for monsters... (check suggestions forum for this... dont wanna clutter it)
2. Spawn times on some other monsters, rediculaminius (yes, i had to make up a word)
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I certainly don't agree with everything the devs do, but I give full credit to Positron for being informative, honest and upfront about this. Very classy. As Homer would say, eight thumbs up!
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"Self, that doesn't sound right, she should already be spawning at a better rate than that." So me and one of the programmers went in and looked at the spawn rate.
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Even in the simplest of news updates, you manage to throw some humor in there.
Thanks for the info, Posi!
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Three little words that mean so much.
Lol you people need to get wiht the program Although there hard to find I Already got Kraken,Adamastor, Freedom Phanlx and The Atlas Medal and all that stuff. Plus I'm only 36 (but I am a Big Badge Hunter so i guess thats why) Thanks a ton posi now i can get my believer badge YAY!!!
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Lol you people need to get wiht the program Although there hard to find I Already got Kraken,Adamastor, Freedom Phanlx and The Atlas Medal and all that stuff. Plus I'm only 36 (but I am a Big Badge Hunter so i guess thats why) Thanks a ton posi now i can get my believer badge YAY!!!
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At 36, you must have had some higher level teammate help for the Fake Nemesis (needed for Freedom Phalanx). I'm ok with that, just want to be sure that other less-knowledgable players understand that a 36 or lower would have an almost impossible time getting the 100 Fake Nemesis solo.
Ok, we screwed up.
We knew that Sally was going to be rare. We knew that with 1 HP she was going to dive under the water before most people ever saw her. This was going to lead to her being "mythical" and rarely seen on a server. We had a spawn rate in mind when we designed everything, including the lowering the requirements down to 2 Sally Defeats for the Believer badge.
Then I noticed someone asking that the spawn rate be "lowered to 2 1/2 to 3 hours". I said to myself, "Self, that doesn't sound right, she should already be spawning at a better rate than that." So me and one of the programmers went in and looked at the spawn rate.
Yikes.
A minimum of 10 hours between spawns was NEVER our intention. This means Sally would spawn once or twice a DAY. Defeating her twice at this crazy rate is a task I would never wish upon CoH players.
We have fixed it today (I don't know when it will make it to the Training Room server) so there is a maximum of 1 hour between spawns. This still makes her "rare", but it's now within the realm of possibility that casual players will get to defeat her twice within their time in Croatoa, and thus earn the badge.
Again, we are very sorry about this.
(Nip in the bud time: The spawn was set up in a way that we intended to have her spawn at a much faster rate than she was, but the fact that the spawn was ALSO set up to make sure that only 1 Sally was active at a time prevented her from being spawned at the faster rate. This was not obvious until we investigated claims that it was taking over 4 hours for her to Spawn. In our original thinking, it was just "someone else got to her before you did", but comments from you guys had me go in and investigate it further).
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