Supermax

I tend to agree with all that. PvP was the best back when everybody was on even ground, and the game came down to skill. Now to compete you have to spend 20+ billion inf, get all accolades, and get all the incarnate stuff. That's just to try PvP. It's no wonder that nobody wants to. The vast majority of the player base couldn't even dream of that much of an investment.

That said, things would probably be at least ok if I13 never happened. But the completely broken system, combined with the ridiculous "entry fee" has ruined the game for good.

You're right on that. The peak performance is great, but the problem is that the rest of the time (the vast majority) it's sub-par. My oldest toon is a BS/regen scrapper, which I play with SO's to this day. And sure, I can jump into a spawn with MoG while DP+IH are running, and for that spawn I'm practically godlike and have zero problems.

The problem is what happens on the next spawn. IH goes down, MoG isn't recharged, and DP will drop soon without being anywhere near perma. So literally in a matter of one minute, I go from being godlike to having nothing but reconstruction and a piddly amount of regen to save me.

That disparity doesn't exist in other sets in my experience. There you pretty much know what you can handle, and it's always pretty consistent.

Yep, over the first few years, regen was definitely the most nerfed set in the game. And while we hated the nerfs, they made sense in the end. It really was OP.

That specific case you're referring to did happen. The devs made major nerfs to regen based on data from their internal testing. They said that scrappers shouldn't be able to solo huge +8 spawns. As it turned out, their internal server was completely messed up and was basically nothing like the actual game. Soloing +8's wasn't because of regen, it was because of completely different programming. This was pointed out to them, they admitted their huge error....and then published all the nerfs anyway. Really bad design on their part, but that's a whole other topic.

But yeah, the set was OP. With IH+DP, you pretty much could not die. Reconstruction was actually a completely useless power. Nobody took it. What's the point of a heal when IH heals you to full in like 3 seconds anyway? That's how good IH was.

But as it is now, I think it does need an improvement. It takes a huge investment to make regen truly shine. Out of the box, it is almost definitely weaker than other sets.

My point is that other sets...just about ALL other sets...can provide more than just survivability. Of course defense isn't useless, but when you have defense with +dmg, +rec, -res, etc. vs defense with nothing else, the decision is pretty simple.

If my Ill/FF troller was my only toon, of course I'd play her. And I'd find ways to be effective, because technically any good player can add something to a team. But because I do have other buff/debuff toons, I never play her. ALL of the other toons offer better alternatives.

That's crazy talk. You most definitely need hoarfrost. Could also take aid self on top of it, but I think that tough/weave is the better option.

Agreed. This is the biggest thing. When I IO'd my fire/SS and took him from SO's to 32% defense (1 luck away from softcap), I was suddenly able to do +4 content with the same effort I used to be able to do +0 content.

+rech and HP is nice, but nothing will make such a noticeable difference as adding a good amount of defense. The key to survival in this game is layering different things (def, res, healing, and regen). With all the res and healing you have, adding the defense on top of it.....well, I'd say it doubles your survivability at the very least.

It'll be funny when it turns out that you were also the one that gave them the idea of I13