Oathbound

Yes... this one.

Frankly I agree. I'd even remove the "same AT" limitation you stipulated. Characters in comic books often get new iterations, acquire new abilities, shift focus(role) etc. It could be nice to be able to do so in game.

Obviously not any kind of direct level 50->level 50 conversion, but simply keeping badges/accolades/etc and starting over at level 1 with a different skill set would be great.

I think that mostly has to do with the actual set make up, rather than the powers being specifically weaker than they should be. (No other melee set gets saddled with a 2sec/0.68scale attack, for instance.)

All of SS's attacks deal fairly standard damage for their recharge. SS's single target attacks just follow an odd 2/4/8/8/25 recharge pattern, where other melee sets generally have 10, 12 or 15 seconds attacks as well/instead which boosts their performance.


With Frozen Aura vs Foot Stomp, it's not that Frozen Aura deals less damage than it should, it's that Foot Stomp has a larger radius than it should, but is allowed to break the rules since SS has no secondary AoE.

Mmmm... true....


How about this... Swap numbers between GIS and FT (FT becomes the 10s 1.96scale attack*) then buff GIS to the 15s 2.76scale that FT always should have been.

Sound good?



*Might need to reduce FT's hold duration... from 11.92s down to 8.5ish?

There was some talk of the possibility of Ice APP eventually, maybe, at some point in the nebulous future, getting Hoarfrost switched/modified to an Absorb ability, since Blaster HP caps mean that you hit the ceiling with only a single heal SO worth of enhancement.

If and when that happens is entirely up in the air, though.

I believe CWK was only a teenager* himself when he was reduced to a brain in a jar by Blue Steel, making it unlikely that he could have any teenaged children (or children at all, to a lesser degree) of his own.




*Though possibly older, he was only really described as a "young man" so I'd say mid twenties at the oldest when he "died."

This is what I was meaning in my earlier post about damage values scaling, I just didn't know any of the specific numbers.

I honestly don't see what other people see between them. Penny/CWK has always struck me as a Father/Daughter relationship, not love interest.

He refers to her as his Princess, not his Queen. During the LGTF he talks about protecting her from <stuff> and "boys" which while I suppose one could look at it in a competitive manner, strikes me more as "No boy could ever be good enough for my little Penny."

True enough. Force multipliers are force multipliers, right?

Slap any two together and you're golden.

I'll throw my hat in on this...

As part of powers people have an issue with it, because they feel as if they're forced into it (To get the benefit of this power you don't get to see your costume).

As an Aura it's completely optional. Anyone who dislikes not being able to see their avatar can simply not use that aura.

Win-win, imo.


Also, Thank you Honey Badger, for caring.

*Raises hand*


I absolutely and utterly despise it with every fiber of my being (the male version, the female one is just "eh" to me).

To borrow an uncouth, but illustrative phrase from the internet... It makes me "throw up in my mouth a little" just seeing it.

Post 50 you can add Clarion for mez protection. You only need to go as far as tier3 to find a permanent option (I use it myself on my Time/Fire defender). You'll only really need one person to have it, so the other is free to take whichever other Destiny they like.

Add to the above values: (All numbers are Base values, not counting possible enhancements)

60%(72% delayed) AoE Resistance debuff
50%(62.5% delayed) AoE Defense debuff
31.25%(37.5% delayed) PBAoE ToHit debuff
50%(60% delayed) PBAoE Damage debuff
205% AoE Recharge debuff (2x Distortion Field + 2x Time's Juncture) which can be increased to 355% debuff against single targets (adding 2x Time Crawl)
300% Single Target Regeneration debuff

You can probably also toss in 2x Assault, which if you run as a Duo means that you'd each have permanent +88.75% Damage (2x Assault [37.5%], Temporal Selection [31.25%] and Vigilance [20% above level 20].

Man, I need to level the Time defender on my alt account so I can dual box...

I get the feeling that the post you're replying too should be read as:

It also looks 20% cooler.











(Actually IMO it looks infinitely cooler than the "water balloon toss" that is Hydro Blast.)

You're making the mistake of looking at it as single attack damage reduction, and not overall mitigation.



Let's say that that mob attacks you 10 times with that 1000damage attack for a total of 10,000 damage. Now mob Base tohit chance is 50% so from at base you take an average 5000 points of damage.

On your Example character (50% resistance) your resistance would reduce the damage to 2500, so overall you only take 25% of the total damage thrown at you.

Applying the 20% Damage debuff from your example means that the total damage aimed at you is reduced from 10,000 to 8000, then mob miss rate reduces that to 4000, and finally your resistance reduces it to 2000.


Now lets look at a comparable Defense based character. Since mob ToHit is 50% base, a value of 25% Defense is an equivalent damage reduction to your example of 50% resistance.

10,000 damage is reduced to 5000 damage by mob miss rate, then reduced further to 2500 by your defense (Both of those are actually the same step, I'm just listing them separately to show specifically the effectiveness of the Defense value). Same as the resistance only example.

Now lets apply the damage debuff. 10,000 damage is reduces to 8000. Miss rate reduces that to 4000, 25% defense reduces that to 2000. Again, exactly the same as the Resistance based character.

-Damage is equally effective in both of the examples. It is always 20% less damage taken, regardless of if you're defense or resistance based.