Fire APP

Do we have one? Why? Who do we bother to get one? What would you put in it?

I want:
Cremate (ST melee)
Fiery Embrace (+fire dam on all attacks)
Fire Shield (S/L/fire res)
Burn (patch)
Rise of the Phoenix (self rez)

No there isn't one and hey, why the heck not? Let's also go the other way for an Ice app.

For fire, I'd want to include Bonfire, which is already in MM and Blaster fire epic pool. Even with the proc nerf it's still nice.

I use both of these pools frequently for MMs, Blasters, Trollers and Doms. I'd certainly like to see them available for Defs (Corrs too).

Keep in mind that you have to look at the other APPs we have if you want to guess what sort of powers we might get.

For example, while fire shield's a given and RotP seems quite plausible, there's no way we're getting burn. We do get powers with AoE effects, and some of them do damage, but we don't get *anything* that's simply primarily an AoE attack.

Cremate and fiery embrace are possibles. Cremate has precedent in thunderstrike and total focus, though it'd honestly be a pretty meh power. Fiery embrace seems obvious with soul drain/power build up already existing, but the problem is it'd require some code time to add the fiery embrace damage to all defender powers, so it might get passed over.

My guess would be Fire Shield, RotP, Consume (precedent in power sink and dark consumption), and probably two of Char, Ring of Fire, Bonfire, or Fiery embrace.

Aye, Fiery Embrace might be hard. Iirc each melee power is coded for Embrace On Y/N for the extra damage, which will be hard.

I think it would be badarsh for a Defender to go Cremating and Burn-ing, so I want those. Isn't Blaster Burn still a 'run away! ahhhh!' power? We could get that. Yes, it would suck, but it would still be fun.

Bonfire is cool, that needs to be taken into account.

And yes, we also need an Ice APP.

Filling out the proliferation gaps in the APPs is definitely something the power guys want to do... it's finding time to do it that's the problem. This issue is especially labor intensive for the powers team.

I agree entirely. I think the set would look something like:

Consume
Cremate/flaming melee attack
Fire Shield
Rise of the Phoenix
???? (Bonfire, maybe? I don't know)

I also think we should get an Ice APP, and possibly a natural/tech inspired Gadgets/Weapons APP (We have Traps, AR, Beam Rife AND Dual Pistols now after all).

Fiery Embrace would require time to code the effects into every defender power that dealt damage, but they could add Embrace of Fire (The Dominator power) instead, since that's still the old +Damage buff version.

I'm all for filling out all the themes for APP pools. Particularly if that finally adds a Defense based shield to Defenders that I don't have to jump through hoops (Swapping redside, unlocking, swapping back) to get.

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I would love an Energy APP akin to energy aura, but we already have Body Mastery for that...

And since the devs are busy, we might as well agree on what we want on each APP and make it easier for them.

Let's just work together to make the first part of the dev's job.

Gadget Mastery:

• Field Expert: global endurance discount (other APPs have end management, so it stays in theme)
• Cloaking Device: personal stealth
• Body Armor: passive S/L resistance (yes, the blaster values are lame, but they should be buffed anyway)
• Surveillance: Ranged -def / -res (of course, longer recharge than blaster APP version)
• Gun Drone: pew pew pet (why not?)

• Energy Protection: passive energy res/negative res/slow (someone will like the slow resistance)
• Energy Transfer: melee attack (I like the BOOM)
• Energize: End discount / heal
• Kinetic Shield: S/L def armor (yay defense armor)
• Overload: +def(all) +recovery, +max hp