Dual time defenders


anonymoose

 

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Hi everyone, I was just wondering if many time powers would stack with another players? I was pondering playing dual time defenders with a friend.

Thoughts?


 

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Yes.

As a general rule all powers stack from different sources. The only exceptions I can think of are Vengeance (and the new Leadership pool power Victory Rush, which is being added in issue24) and anything that is a "grant power" rather than a buff/debuff (such as the Mystic Fortune power from the Magic pack, or the Achilles Heel -resist proc).


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Mmmm, stacked Foresight and Chronoshift, awesome sauce! About any secondary would work archery to dual pistols, fire or ice.


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Dual Time Defenders are very powerful, almost up there with two Empaths. You can look forwards to...

+40% Defence from two slotted Farsights. Manouvers will make this soft-capped to everything.
+130% Recharge from two Chronoshifts (50% each) and mutual Temporal Selection (30%). Add Hasten and you're at +200% and all of this will be permanent.
+25% To Hit from double Farsight. (perma-insta-snipe in I24)
Passive regen and all the heals you could nned with that defence.

The one thing you dont get is mez protection. Unless you both take Stimulant from the Medicine pool.

Enjoy!


 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Harmony View Post
Dual Time Defenders are very powerful, almost up there with two Empaths. You can look forwards to...

+40% Defence from two slotted Farsights. Manouvers will make this soft-capped to everything.
+130% Recharge from two Chronoshifts (50% each) and mutual Temporal Selection (30%). Add Hasten and you're at +200% and all of this will be permanent.
+25% To Hit from double Farsight. (perma-insta-snipe in I24)
Passive regen and all the heals you could nned with that defence.

The one thing you dont get is mez protection. Unless you both take Stimulant from the Medicine pool.

Enjoy!
Post 50 you can add Clarion for mez protection. You only need to go as far as tier3 to find a permanent option (I use it myself on my Time/Fire defender). You'll only really need one person to have it, so the other is free to take whichever other Destiny they like.

Add to the above values: (All numbers are Base values, not counting possible enhancements)

60%(72% delayed) AoE Resistance debuff
50%(62.5% delayed) AoE Defense debuff
31.25%(37.5% delayed) PBAoE ToHit debuff
50%(60% delayed) PBAoE Damage debuff
205% AoE Recharge debuff (2x Distortion Field + 2x Time's Juncture) which can be increased to 355% debuff against single targets (adding 2x Time Crawl)
300% Single Target Regeneration debuff

You can probably also toss in 2x Assault, which if you run as a Duo means that you'd each have permanent +88.75% Damage (2x Assault [37.5%], Temporal Selection [31.25%] and Vigilance [20% above level 20].

Man, I need to level the Time defender on my alt account so I can dual box...


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Two Corruptors would be better.

Scourge.

Just saying.


 

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To each their own, really.

I have always chosen Defenders over Corruptors personally, Scourge or not, because I greatly prefer getting better buffs/debuffs sooner.


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I'm only putting it forward for this situation not in general. My first 50 was an emp.


 

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Yeah, in the long run Klaw's probably right.

A lot of the key powers come much later, and you wont be soft-capped to defence, but you're also packing heals, a To Hit/Dam debuff aura and whatever other mitigation you have in your secondary. Scourge and higher base damage is worth giving that extra safety up for.

So its probably worth toughing out the lower levels as a Corrupter if this is a long term project.

On the other hand, do many dedicated duos last well into the 40s? Mine have tended to fall apart round that level.


 

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Split the difference.

Time/Sonic
Fire/Time

I don't see a downside.


 

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Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
Split the difference.

Time/Sonic
Fire/Time

I don't see a downside.
True enough. Force multipliers are force multipliers, right?

Slap any two together and you're golden.


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Originally Posted by _Klaw_ View Post
Two Corruptors would be better.

Scourge.

Just saying.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oathbound View Post
True enough. Force multipliers are force multipliers, right?

Slap any two together and you're golden.
Except that Defenders get the better force multipliers.

Corruptor's -Resistance is at 75% strength of those of Defenders'; and their -Regen is at 50% strength of those of Defenders'.*

A Defender's Time is more valuable than a Corruptor's Time.


*Except when the debuffs are administered by a pseudopet, e.g. Tar Patch, then it's the same value for Defenders and Corruptors.


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