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Huh, so you've played every mission in MA and hated them all?
Impressive!
Quote:I play the missions done by the devs, because they're professionals.
And what do you make of Doc Aeon, who's arcs from his previous life as a 'mere' player are still available?
Are they acceptable because now he's a dev, or are they still garbage because when he wrote them he was a "user"? -
Ok, bought my PvP +3% def IO this AM (thanks MANDUR!) so the grand unveiling of his "final uber build" is fast approaching.
Last call for comments, advice or suggestions, and thanks to all the respondents who slotted my attention span for range enhancements during this lengthy project! -
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laid the smackdown on Trappy with my fire/axe tank last night, no big deal. Wailed on him until he bifurctaed, jumped around to find the thing and kill it, rinse and repeat.
Was helped out when he fell into the lava chasing after me.
I'll try him with one of my less efficient soloers next. -
Ok, sent 2.5b to Mandur with the suggestion to hold off burning it until the 21st.
Poking around my stable the past few days, I've got a couple of characters hovering between 1-2b and quite a few between 500m-1b. Rough estimate considering potential earnings over the next few days, I should have ~5b to add to the cause. -
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Quote:this post makes me wish we still had rep.I assume she'll be the ultimate fan girl for the works of Stephanie Meyer. Her goal will be to protect people during midnight movie releases and to settle Edward vs. Jacob debates that have turned violent.
She will be the defender of fangirlz and liberator of people that tease said fangirls simply for liking something different.
A paragon of justice and and tattoos that will be regretted fifteen years from now, she is... Twilight Guardian.
Ask not for whom the Bella fan trolls... she trolls for thee.
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Quote:Again, I'm not saying it's "broken".Nethergoat, I get what you're trying to say. You feel compared to other sets, EA under-performs. I can see, at first glance, how that assumption can be made. The problem is, it can perform perfectly fine out of the box with SOs, it just requires different play. Sure, people flock to Shields and SR for most defense builds, because those powersets are more easy-mode. You're always going to have a more popular flavor of the month, it doesn't equate to a set being broken because it's not that FotM.
It is demonstrably less poweful/useful/whatever than other available sets.
CAN it work? Sure! The game simply isn't that hard. I levelled my Regen scrapper up to Instant Healing in the old days when Regen gave you practically NOTHING before the glory that was toggled IH. So, sure, EA can 'work'. I got my guy to 40 mainly because Stone was a great set, not because EA did anything but let me steath newspapers.
It's 'selling points' are either redundant or depreciated in the modern era.
End drain? ELA does is way better, and is a resist based set on top of it.
Defense? SR does it better.
End recovery? Not the big deal it used to be.
EA isn't broken, it doesn't "suck" or whatever.
It *is* derivative, outdated and less appealing than pretty much all the other Brute sets. I'd like them to address that before any proliferation takes place. -
I store the bulk of my wealth in the community furnace in the 88's base.
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In general, if I have someone that's working on their build, they have a lot of inf.
My 'market mules' usually have a couple hundred million at any given time, to cover listing fees and give them flexibility if I see a hot deal I want to jump on. Anything above that gets gleemailed to my 88'er.
My farmers usually have around a billion on hand, when it starts getting up toward the cap I gleemail it to my 88'er.
Characters I play more or less regularly tend to have a few hundred million on hand, just from selling drops and casual marketeering (I have one guy that's been buying up large inspirations cheap, turning them into big defenses and selling them for 500k each...not super profitable, but over time it does add up). -
Quote:for the stuff I craft I list it *slightly* over 50% of the 'going rate'.I put everything that costs less than 1mil for sale at a modest price of 1 influence. Above 1mil it really depends how much above that arbitrary limit it is, but I usually put them at around 75% of the last 5. 95% of the time I end up getting around 100% of what the last 5 cost anyways, and this often guarantees the sale.
I'd say 95% of the time I get paid the "going rate' anyway, and 99% of the time I get millions more than my listing price. It's very, very, very rare that I get paid my listing price or a few million more- nearly every one of my crafted IO sales is 80-100%+ of the 'going rate' at the time I listed. -
Nice post OneWhoBinds- it echoes my experiences with EA exactly.
And you're spot on with the comparison to FA- the recent tweaks made it MUCH better at the 'killing things faster' part. If EA had a 'hook' like that they could buff it'd be more popular.
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I list all my salvage for 1 inf.
That doesn't stop people from giving me thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, or even millions for it.
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Quote:The slotting is a genuine benefit- I ended up keeping Cloaking Device on my ar/dev because six-slotted Red Fortune had a part to play in getting me to the ranged defense cap.Except you *don't* replace that power in IO form. Yes, the stealth IO is nice. However, it provides zero defense, you can't slot an IO with other IOs, and IIRC the values it gives aren't as good.
Of course, 'set mule' isn't a fantastic selling point for a power either. =P
Looks like defense is 3.8 to all, which is nice assuming it doesn't suppress like CD. I realize that dribs and drabs like that can be important if you're working towards a defense cap, but it stills seems like weak tea when the primary function of the power is available for a few million inf or an evening's worth of missions.
And again, I'm not on any kind of EA pogrom here.
But the set underperforms and if it got some attention from the devs many more people would play it.
Fiery Aura is a good example of what a couple of relatively minor tweaks can do to seriously upgrade a lackluster set. I labored my way up to the mid-30s pre-buff- it was a concept character I really liked, although he wasn't 'good' by any objective measure. After the buff, I played him like crazy and he was 50 in no time, and he's still one of my most played characters....he's not all that much more powerful, but he's ten times as fun as he used to be.
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Quote:They don't have to be bad, they just have to make it not as good as other stuff.So, from all you've said, it's enjoyable despite it's appearance of having flaws. Well, those flaws can't be so bad.
It's great y'all think it's a bitchin' set that everybody should love, but they don't, and there's a reason they don't. I mean, beyond people saying mean things about it on the forums.....which has about as much impact on in-game performance as you saying nice things about it.
Quote:Wait, wait, wait. You want to use IOs as a reason of saying a set is broken?
I'm saying it underperforms and needs an update to be competitive with other sets.
Quote:Therefore, Lightning Reflexes in ELA is now a non-feature. The regen from Stone's Rooted is meaningless. The Quick Recovery powers are laughable. Basically, every sets been negated by IOs if we follow this rational. It's an extremely flawed argument, and doesn't hold up.
Regen is stackable to great effect.
Quick Recovery powers are indeed depreciated in the 'modern' game, as I mentioned in a thread about the sorry state of Regen a few days back.
With stealth, you're basically *buying the power* with a single IO. I have the same issue with /dev's Cloaking Device. It's "power" in the modern game is saving you a few million inf or a few tip missions- very underwhelming.
When you can buy a power replacement in IO form, then IMHO that power needs to be made more useful.
The addition of IOs significantly changed the game. Some sets need to be reconsidered in that light and EA is one of them.
Quote:Lets not forget the fact that the defense from this stealth doesn't get a mention. Or that you don't have to waste inf on IOs or do tips to get this feature. New players/casual players get it out of the box, and that's a real feature for them. Also, it frees your slots from taking an IO you don't have to get.
I happily 'sacrifice' one slot and a few million inf for stealth on nearly all of my characters. It's incredibly handy, and used to be a good power choice for the sets that offered it.
Now anyone can do it. I'd like the sets affected by it to be compensated, because the value (perceived and otherwise) of those stealth powers has been depreciated.
Quote:Inherent Stamina isn't an end all to end management powers either. I seriously doubt that WP and Regen users have dropped QR from their characters.
Formerly one benefit of ATs with stamina tools was that you could skip stamina, which freed up power choices. That was a not inconsiderable benefit, which is now available to *everyone in the game*.
It is no longer a selling point for EA (or other sets with similar utility), because anyone can do it.
Quote:Stamina also doesn't drain end from foes. Stamina alone isn't always enough to keep going and going.
Huh.
Quote:Playerbase. Such a funny thing. People use it as an argument all the time, like they've data mined the playerbase and know what everyone thinks.
What's yours, that people saying mean things on the forums scares away legions of players who WOULD love EA if only someone would let them try it?
Please.
Quote:A vocal, uninformed minority complaining about a powerset others can make work completely fine, is not the playerbase. If someone can make it work on SOs, then anyone can make it work with IOs (since you rely on IOs for you arguments). I'd rather go EA than SR, anytime. -
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Quote:heehee! =PWell if I'm understanding that right, then...
Huh. Y'know, maybe there's just some conversations I should stay out of
Thanks for the info anyway! But I'm gonna think on that one a bit more before I pretend to have a grasp on it again.
Aside from all that boring IRL stuff, I want inf sinks because right now there's an entire class of player for whom inf has no real meaning because its so easy to make and there are, relatively speaking, so few things for us to spend it on.
That's one of the main motivators for the Crazy 88's...blowing tens of billions on meaningless prestige has given a bunch of us a reason to care about making inf again.
It'd be nice if the *game* gave us more ways to destroy inf instead of having to make up our own. -
I've moved on to grief-hacking arcane rares!
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Quote:If AF isn't the most-ignored person in the market forum it's not for lack of trying.Despite the well-intentioned sig floating around about not ignoring people because "you might miss something vital to your cause", I'll have to risk it.
You won't miss anything but reams of self-serving balderdash.