Left to your own /devices: A guide to the /devices primary

It was the best of sets, it was the worst of sets. The /devices set has long been regarded as the weakest of the blaster secondaries, and that's because it is. However, "weakest" doesn't necessarily mean "weak"; the set is viable, playable, and even (for some people) fun. This guide gives an overview of the set, some notes about how to use it, some historical review of why the set is the way it is, and some notes for people coming from a traps set, or considering giving up on devices in favor of traps.

You'll note that /devices is a secondary set, but I've called it a primary. Here's the thing. If you enjoy the way /devices plays, it makes an excellent primary. You can play a /devices blaster who has taken a blast set as a secondary, and you can have a ball doing it. Thus, this is a guide to the /devices primary. I'm starting, not with the review of the powers, but with the FAQ. The real point of the guide is to tell you what the set is like. The powers are only interesting if you like the feel of the set; if you don't like how the set feels, it doesn't matter what the statistics are.

Who should play /devices?

If you are looking for the best set for steamrolling content, look elsewhere. The /devices set's strengths are all about setup and preparation. If you're steamrolling content, the set is marginal, and you generally won't use it. You don't get a "Build Up" power. You don't get hard-hitting melee attacks. Your immobilize doesn't do damage.

If you're soloing, /devices can be an amazing set. It's not always fast, but there is something wonderful about watching a x8 spawn melt away without getting to make a single attack against you. No, I'm not exaggerating. Now, it'll take a few minutes to set up, and it won't work every time, but you can do that.

If you want to play a Natural origin blaster with a secondary that makes sense, /devices is your only choice. All of the others would require some kind of amazing technology, magic, mutation, or whatnot; only /devices is built around things that are at least conceivably within the realm of non-superhero technology. If you want to play a superspy, half blaster and half stalker, you might like /devices.

Here is what I do for a tough-looking spawn, when soloing. I find the spawn. I find a nearby corner. I spend a couple of minutes laying down a field of trip mines between the spawn and the corner. I smoke grenade the spawn. I set up a time bomb in the spawn. I walk around the corner. If any of them actually survive (usually they don't), I might have to actually use one of my blast powers. Otherwise, I have just killed them all without them even being able to target me once. I move on.

If that sounds fun, you might want to play a /devices blaster. If that sounds tedious and unfun, you probably ought to look at other sets.

Why is /devices weak?

The /devices set has never really been updated to fit the modern CoH game. Before ED and IOs, Targeting Drone meant that you could put one more damage enhancement, and one less accuracy, in most powers. That translated into a substantial damage increase -- figure about 10-15% compared to a blaster who had to slot for more accuracy. Now, most people will have damage at the ED cap, and with set bonuses, they may well have plenty of accuracy without even explicitly slotting for it. Targeting Drone went from a pretty decent power to a sort of mediocre power. It's still better than nothing, but it's not at all obvious that it's better than a pool power, or better than not using it and saving your endurance.

Similarly, Cloaking Device was a really nice stealth, back when there were no Stealth IOs. Now, it's not great. It's not awful, and it helps that it stacks with Stealth IOs, but it's a mediocre to pitiful amount of defense (especially since only part of that defense is available when you're in combat), and stealth is not in and of itself all that useful most of the time.

The big central flaw, though, becomes clear when you look at time bomb and trip mines. The powers that ought to be among the set's star players are utterly useless once combat starts; they are essentially impractical to use except by setting up before combat. On a fast team, the average spawn will be dead in the time it takes you to set up a time bomb, rendering the power completely pointless.

Quite simply, /devices was not built for CoH the way it is actually played.

How does /devices compare to traps/ or /traps?

The traps/ defender set is widely regarded as an amazing set. The reason is clear if you look at a few of the powers that traps/ has and /devices doesn't. Look at Triage Beacon, Acid Mortar, Force Field Generator, Poison Gas Trap, and Seeker Drones. Do you know what they have in common? They aren't interruptible. You can use them in combat. And that means that you can actually get substantial utility from them. Furthermore, with the better defense of FFG, a traps/ defender can toe bomb with a reasonable hope of success even after a fight has started; a /devices blaster has to build very, very, carefully to get enough defense to be able to use any powers in combat.

Defenders get less mileage from Trip Mines and Time Bomb than blasters; for blasters, at least the bombs do enough damage to be potentially worth the hassle. For defenders, Time Bomb does less damage. (Corruptors, however, might consider it as a situational power.) Masterminds replace Time Bomb with Detonator, but Trip Mines is pretty useful everywhere.

If you really want to use the /devices powers actively in combat, on teams, consider going with a traps/ defender, or /traps corruptor, instead.

Why would anyone play /devices, then?

Why play a set which is inefficient compared to other sets? Because this game is not fundamentally about efficiency of builds. It's about building a character that looks cool to you. It's about awesome super heroes doing amazing things and being stunning. If you have never seen a /devices blaster wiping out a spawn with mines, it's hard to appreciate just how awesome it looks; the ragdoll physics in CoH really shines on handling large numbers of enemies hitting mines with decent knockback. (Ask around if you want to see this; I bet most people who would play /devices would be happy to show it off.)

I play /devices because I love the way it plays, and don't care that it's inefficient. I sit around watching TV while I set up nests of trip mines. I wander through missions arranging to one-shot the one and only enemy on the map I need to kill, without bothering to kill everyone else. Sure, I get less loot and XP and inf. But my superspy stealth infiltrator is playing like a superspy stealth infiltrator, not like a muscle-bound idiot. So I'm happy.

Is /devices really slow?

Yes, and no. If you fully deck out a set of 10+ trip mines, and a time bomb, you are going to spend a couple of minutes doing it. On a team, that's probably useless. Solo... If you can beat a spawn just coming in and leading with a regular AoE from your blast set then burning down the one thing left standing, don't use trip mines. If you're looking at a spawn that you simply couldn't beat at all conventionally, though, /devices is infinitely faster, and requires fewer hospital trips.

The real question, I think, is whether you get more XP per hour of play by playing cautiously against larger or higher level spawns with trip mines and such, or by playing aggressively against weaker or smaller spawns. I'm not sure yet. I'd be interested in feedback. In general, the time it takes to do a bit of setup (one trip mine, caltrops) is trivial; if you do a trip mine, a time bomb, a trip mine, and a gun drone, you've just spent about 30 seconds, and the remainder of the spawn will be pretty fast; the question is whether you could clear the spawn in 30-40 seconds some other way. Maybe you could.

In CoH, enemies regenerate while you fight them. What this means is that the more you can get all your damage out at once, the less damage you have to do. Trip Mines let you spend a number of activations and recharge cycles in advance, then get all the damage from them at once. That's potentially a very good thing, and can speed life up. On a team, however, while you're setting up mines, the other 7 players aren't doing anything, and that makes it a lot slower (like any strategy that has people sit on their thumbs waiting for someone). Solo, though, it's not as much of a slowdown as it looks like, because your activations are all going into damage soon. (It's still sort of slow, because of all the recharge time, during which you're not cycling through other powers.)

One thing to keep in mind: For soloing missions that don't require a defeat-all, stealth will be faster at completing missions. It may not be faster at gaining XP, though, as the XP for mission completion isn't huge. On the other hand, if you just want to quickly run through some story arcs to get an accolade or a particular badge, well.

So about those powers.

I'm not gonna lean too hard on what powers you should or shouldn't take. With I19, blasters are no longer paying the three-pick "fitness" tax, and it's now quite possible that it's reasonable for you to take everything in your primary and secondary without feeling like you're missing out too much.

Web Grenade

You have to take it. This is not as bad as it sounds. Immobilize, shimmobilize. What matters is that this power gives a solid -recharge penalty. Oh, and a -fly. But the -recharge is what really makes this sorta useful. Feel free to spam this on really tough targets, even targets you can't actually immobilize with it. If you're using assault rifle, this gives you a way to keep things in Ignite. Note that even AVs and the like often don't have enough immobilize protection to keep this from nailing them if you stack it. Note also that, if you get mezzed, you can keep using web grenade, along with your T1 and T2 blasts.

Slotting: Accuracy, immobilize, endredux. Recharge is already decent. Procs are of questionable value, but not unthinkable if you have spare slots and money.

Caltrops

If you're like me, you read the description, thought about how little "minor" damage sounded like, and looked for something else. I'm gonna ask you to do something crazy. Read the "Detailed Info" of this power before you make that decision.

Did you notice the words "magnitude 50.00" in there? I bet you did. Yes, this power has a magnitude 50 fear effect. Enemies will run away from caltrops. You know what enemies do while they're running? They don't attack. Not only will enemies run to the edge of caltrops; if they prefer melee, and they've tried a couple of times to get to you, they will sometimes run away to the far end of the map trying to find a path to you that does not go through caltrops.

Oh, and while they're running away? As long as they're on the caltrops, they're doing it with an 80% or so slow. Anything that isn't slow-resistant will be running away from you in slow motion. This means they spend even more time running away. And if you aren't attacking them, they will very rarely take a break from running to attack you. Watch out for things with slow resist, though; warwolves will run out of blast range, run back, hit you, run back out of blast range...

How to use caltrops: Put caltrops on a corner, stand around the side, and take pot shots at the people who occasionally slow up. Drop caltrops under your feet and just stand there shooting. It's all good. Effective use of caltrops makes /devices a much, much, better set than it would be otherwise. Caltrops is effectively permanent out of the box, but a little bit of recharge helps you move your caltrops and make sure you always have some under you. Caltrops is, in practice, a pretty good replacement for melee defense. Caltrops can also help drive people towards trip mines, or keep them in place when thrown under them.

Caltrops have an avoid affect, but it only affects enemies once they've hit the caltrops. Enemies will not stop before reaching caltrops that they've never hit before, although they may run around avoiding that particular patch later. Learn the radius of caltrops. It's a bit larger than the activation circle, and precision in deciding where things come to a sudden halt is a big advantage.

Slotting: A little recharge is all you really need. Damage is pretty trivial (though it can add up on a large group), but consider a damage proc, such as the Impeded Swiftness chance for smashing damage. It'll only fire every 10 seconds, but it fires right away when you drop the caltrops. Accuracy is completely irrelevant.

Taser

It's a stun. Magnitude 3, meaning lieutenants but not bosses (but keep reading). Whether you want this or not is largely a function of whether your blast set has a stun to stack this with. My main /devices character is a dual pistols blaster, and while the blast set has a stun, the stun is converted to a hold when using special ammo, meaning no stacking without a lot of toggle management. Not especially rewarding. Still, it's a stun that you can use to keep a lieutenant locked down if you slot it for stun duration and recharge. Not awful, but probably skippable. On the other hand, if your blast set has a stun, you can lock down a boss. Suddenly, this power becomes a lot more attractive.

Slotting: acc/stun/rech, mostly.

Targeting Drone

The to-hit bonus isn't awful. If you're not clear on the difference between to-hit and accuracy, the answer is that to-hit is multiplied by accuracy. If you have a 10% to-hit bonus, and a power with 1.6 total accuracy, your chance-to-hit is 16% higher with that power, not 10% higher. This also gives resistance to to-hit debuffs and a perception bonus. Overall, I like it; worth taking. Some people prefer Tactics, which gives a smaller buff but shares it with the rest of your group.

Slotting: Consider a Gaussian's set for it; note that the set bonuses may be more important than the actual effect on your to-hit.

The chance-for-build-up proc is debated in here. It's a 5% chance to fire, for 5 seconds, every 10 seconds. What that means is that you get about 2.5% extra damage from it, which is pretty minor. On the other hand, you don't have a real "Build Up" power in your secondary, so it's perhaps better than nothing. The down side is the lack of control; some people would rather put the proc in Aim in their blast set, so even though they'll get fewer fires of the proc, they're more likely to be at useful times. (Not all primaries have Aim, mind you; if you're a dual pistols blaster, your only option would be here or something like Tactics.)

UPCOMING CHANGE: There's not really a change to this power, but in i24, snipes will lose the interruptible portion of their activation time when your to-hit (not accuracy) bonus clears 22%. Targeting Drone gives you 13.875% to-hit unenhanced, meaning that simply enhancing this enough can make the effect permanent; furthermore, it provides to-hit resistance, reducing the chance that to-hit debuffs will take away your fast snipes. Definitely an improvement in the set as a whole for blasters who have a snipe. Bad news, munitions mastery players: LRM is not affected.

Smoke Grenade

A very nice power. The -tohit penalty isn't huge, but it's significant; comparable to a minor to-hit debuff power in some of the debuff sets. The -perception penalty is very nice. If two spawns are close together, this lets you kill one without the other noticing. If you have cloaking device, but no stealth IO (or vice versa), this gives enough -perception to make you effectively invisible to the victims. Even without them, you may be able to sneak by some groups. Note the unusually large area affected, but the target cap is only 10; for multiple spawns, you'll need more than one smoke grenade. Duration is one minute, recharge is 15 seconds or less. The perception debuff is auto-hit in PvE, but not in PvP. The to-hit debuff is not auto-hit, so you may want some accuracy, though set bonuses are likely enough.

Slotting: I slot for a bit of recharge and a bit of to-hit debuff. Might be an okay set mule, if you find a to-hit debuff set you dearly love. Do not slot this with procs like "chance for recharge debuff"; procs will aggro, and the non-aggro nature of this power is a big part of its charm.

Cloaking Device (i24: Field Operative)

Not awful, not awesome. Cloaking Device compares favorably to the Concealment pool Stealth power, because it has no movement penalty, but the movement penalty isn't that significant. The defense bonus is fairly trivial. Strengths are that this power takes defense sets, and that it stacks with stealth IOs. With this on, and a stealth IO active, you are effectively invisible except to things like Rikti drones, snipers, etcetera. (And remember that Smoke Grenade can help some with those.)

You can replace this with other powers, but they're not necessarily better; it's just that CD isn't that much better than the other powers. It's not a great power for a secondary set, but if you want stealth, it's still probably better than the other ways of getting it.

UPCOMING CHANGE: In i24, this becomes "field operative" and adds +regen and +recovery boosts, turning it effectively into a must-have power.

Slotting: Defense sets! If you didn't take combat jumping or hover, put your kismet +accuracy here. (Or don't bother; you may not need it since you have targeting drone.) Or just put in a defense/endurance, or straight endredux.

Trip Mines

One of the real shining points of the set. Trip mines are slow to set up, but the damage is impressive. Mines last until something triggers them (by coming near them) or about four minutes, and you can set them up in 25 seconds unenhanced. (About five seconds of activation for the power, 20 seconds recharge.) Enhance for recharge, accuracy, and damage. Endurance really doesn't matter; even with incredible recharge, you're still looking at around 12-15 seconds per mine, so if you have at least 1 endurance per second recovery, you cannot run out of blue placing these.

One of the reasons this power is liked despite the slow setup is the option of toe-bombing: Run into a spawn and plant a mine; it goes off essentially immediately, doing decent damage to everything nearby, plus knockback. Once a fight has started, though, you have to be careful; the power is interruptible, and as a blaster, you probably don't have awesome defenses. You can also drop a trip mine at your feet before you start blasting. If you pick up aggro from something, and it runs up to you... boom.

Trip mines will not go off if you are too far away from them when something runs over them; I don't know the exact distance, but it seems to be around 60-80 feet, which is to say, blast range. The blast is delayed a bit from triggering. The down side is that if you have a string of these, a single minion can trigger three or four before taking damage from them. Some creatures will actually get out of range before the mine triggers, taking no damage. For best results, stack them at corners and wait around the corner. If you can teleport an enemy in, Caltrops can keep them from moving fast enough to get away from a trip mine before it goes off. For that matter, caltrops which overlap a trip mine's area can cause things to run into the area, then stop before they run out.

To get good results from trip mines, you need to have a bit of setup time, and you need to know where creatures will be going. A tank who wants to work with you on this can do a great job of moving things over mines, and so can a gravity controller with Wormhole. (Teleport Foe might be worth thinking about, too.) Usually, this isn't worth the effort on a team, but if you end up in a bit over your heads, the option of doing a ton of extra damage is really worth it. If you're playing around, be sure to try to set things up so that something gets knocked back from one mine to another. So much mitigation! So much funny!

Slotting: Obliteration is a great set for trip mines; lots of recharge, not much worry about -endurance. Global recharge is also your friend. And yes, accuracy and damage. These can miss, and then you cry.

Time Bomb

The great thing about Time Bomb is that, when you make level 35 on your /devices blaster, you can pick literally any pool power.

Okay, it's not quite that bad. But it's pretty bad. The issue is that Time Bomb goes off at a fixed time. Your other powers let you set up a kill zone which will screw up your enemies when they come to you. If you try to use Time Bomb that way, you will spend a lot of time being disappointed. Maybe you prefer to use Trip Mines to toe-bomb in combat; if you try to use Time Bomb that way, it goes off near the end of a fight, because it's a 9 second activation plus a 15 second delay. Most spawns are pretty far gone 24 seconds in.

If you do not get a stealth IO and a stealth power (or a good AoE sleep, like the one in Sonic Blast), don't bother with Time Bomb. It's useless to you. If, however, you have such things, give it a second look. With invisibility, you can walk into a spawn, use Time Bomb, and walk away. You now have 15 seconds to get... wherever. Say, on the other end of a field of trip mines. The time from a time bomb being dropped to it going off is just about exactly long enough to run away a little bit, plant a single trip mine, run around a corner, and activate a gun drone.

What Time Bomb offers you, with invisibility or comparable stealth, is the ability to open a fight with an attack against which the enemy cannot retaliate. If you shoot an enemy, everything in the spawn that has line of sight to you can shoot you. Every attack power you have is vulnerable to this... except Time Bomb. Which goes off at a time when you've walked around a corner.

The damage isn't much higher than trip mines, but Time Bomb has more knockback, and a significantly larger radius (20' instead of 12'). Most of the time, this will hit an entire spawn if you place it in the center of the spawn. With a little slotting, that means no minions left.

Slotting: Again, Obliteration. The base recharge of 6 minutes sounds huge, but since this power is fairly situational, getting it down to a couple of minutes is usually fine. When soloing, you will also be spending some of that time planting new trip mines.

Gun Drone

This power is a little mediocre, though it has been improved. Not awful, not great. The good news is: It does damage, it can take aggro off you. The bad news is a fairly long recharge and a ludicrous endurance cost. A couple of slots of some recharge-intensive pets set, plus some global recharge, and you can keep this out pretty much all the time. Apparently, with enough recharge, it is possible to overlap gun drones, though it takes a fair bit of effort. One reader has informed me that if you overlap gun drones, the first drone's Defiance buff actually affects the second drone.

This used to be a stationary turret, and that was worse; making it mobile means it can stay with you for its entire minute and thirty seconds, making it useful for two or three spawns. Again, not so useful on teams (where the activation time is a killer), but it can be a life saver solo, where it's extra damage and some potential aggro mitigation. Furthermore, if you're invisible or stealthed, your gun drone can soak an alpha. It may even survive; they're surprisingly tough. You can even summon it in the middle of a spawn.

Gun Drone used to have a fairly long activation time, which was interruptible, and a much higher Defiance boost to damage. It went from 6 seconds interruptible and a 39.6% damage boost (!) to 1 second uninterruptible and a mere 6.6% damage boost. Some people used the old form as a poor man's Build Up. The new version can be used in combat.

Gun Drone is single-target. On single targets, such as elite bosses and AVs or GMs, it may provide enough additional damage to be pretty noticeable. The reason it seems weak normally is that blasters tend to have enough AoE that, on a large spawn, Gun Drone isn't adding much.

If you've summoned a gun drone, and you want to go toe-bombing without being noticed, consider /releasepets to get rid of it. Don't bother with Grant Invisibility, the drone attacks without waiting for things to attack you or it. (People who are used to using invisibility on FFG in Traps might not anticipate this.)

Slotting: Pick up some recharge intensive pet stuff, probably. Don't bother with the defense/resistance procs, you aren't really pet specialized, and the gun drone doesn't pick up that much aggro.

So, about blast sets (or "primaries")

If you pick /devices, it is your primary; it is the set which defines how you play, and your blast set (which would otherwise have been your "primary") has to be used in ways consistent with /devices, or you're going to hate your character. The other secondaries tend to be used to support your blast set and maybe give you a bit of flavor. They have comparable basic functionality; some sort of immobilize, some melee attacks. None of them will encourage you to spend five minutes setting up for a fight. None of them allow you to wipe out an entire spawn without using a single attack from your blast set.

The /devices set can be useful with any blast set. Thematically, it goes especially well with archery, assault rifle, and dual pistols. Here, you will find the one benefit of the pre-combat setup aspect of /devices: Less redraw in combat. Most of your /devices use was done before the first shot was fired. If your blast set has a stun, that will give synergy with Taser, allowing you to keep a typical boss locked down, but mind the redraw for the weapon sets.

The dual pistols set has no Aim. This is, well, annoying. A dp/dev blaster has no good options for boosting blast output.

Assault rifle, unique among blast sets, gets a damage bonus to its snipe from targeting drone. This is perhaps intended to make up for the lack of an Aim, but nothing similar has been done for dual pistols.

The weapon sets have inherent accuracy, which gives good synergy with targeting drone.

Archery's Stun Arrow stacks with Taser. Hello, Mr. Boss! After considering your appplication to be an active participant in this engagement, we've been forced to select another applicant, as your skills are not required at this time. Please walk around slowly in a circle until someone kills you.

Energy's knockback can be much more useful coupled with your ability to set up trip mines and defenses; you can knock people into mines, or back over caltrops. Lots of potential there.

Sonic's sleep power lasts long enough to set up a Time Bomb.

Fixing /devices

One of the most recurring themes in the Blaster forums is requests that the developers fix /devices. I won't lie, the set could use some love. At this point, the things that stand out the most as flaws, to me, are:

• Cloaking Device isn't much better than pool stealth or an I/O. It would be nice if it were buffed. Many suggestions have been made, such as adding better ranged/AoE defense, lowering endurance cost, etcetera.
• Targeting Drone suffers a lot from IO sets and ED. Giving it a slight general damage boost would go a long way towards making up for the lack of a Build Up. Wouldn't take much to make it a pretty nice power, but it's just a bit weak right now.
• Trip Mines are too interruptible and slow. Increasing recharge time and reducing activation time might do a lot of good for them.
• Time Bomb is too situational, and in particular, too suited to an uncommon situation.
• Gun Drone is too slow, and costs too much.

There have been many other suggestions for improving /devices. I quite like idea of a remote-placeable Time Bomb, which would make it more useful to people without perfect stealth, and/or make it easier to use on teams. Also, ideas like a way to force it to trigger prematurely have been floated.

But underneath it all... There are bigger problems in CoH than /devices. While the set has weaknesses, it's still viable for team play, quite nice solo, and offers a unique play experience. So if they never get around to doing anything about it, people will still play /devices and have fun.

Last edited: June 25, 2012 (or later if I forgot to update this) -- added i24 notes, corrected Gun Drone to mention the interrupt/activation/defiance change from a while back.

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Nice job, a couple of minor correction/quibbles:

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Want a really fun -- if not very fast -- duo? Pair a */Devices Blaster with a Gravity/Storm controller. Few things in the game are more amusing than setting up a bunch of trip mines, and then using Wormhole to 'port a group of unsuspecting ruffians onto the Trip Mine patch. Just imagine what they were thinking . . .

A nice guide. I learned a thing or two for my DP/Dev blaster, named "Pepe LePewPew."

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I wanted to make a fire blaster who would live. My theory is that for a blaster, whatever secondary you choose should really serve the purpose of augmenting the primary. I played a fire/mm, and found it really lacking... mm was kind of just more of the same. With Fire, I didn't need more of the same. I just needed to stay alive more often. So this time, for fire, my augmentation requirements were "I don't want to ALWAYS die!" It seemed like /devices had some mitigation, so I tried it.

Fire/devices is by FAR the most fun I've EVER had on a blaster! EVER! (Did you get the EVER part? Hyperbole? Moi?)

The combo of Caltrops and Rain of Fire is a thing of beauty! I remember last year at Halloween and knocking on doors solo when I was bored or tired, and just had the best time. Lay down Caltrops, knock, hover up out of easy reach, drop Rain of Fire. Pause to giggle at wolfies trying to climb streetlights to get to you, then Taser bad wolfies. Toss out fire ball to finish them all off. Maybe a single-target blast or two for bosses. I think I ended up with something like 38 sets of costume salvage on that one, and 2 or 3 (mid-30's) levels, it was just that much fun!

I did try using the Bombs at the door. I was frustrated the very first time - it took so long to set up, I felt I could have wiped out whatever came out 2 or 3 times over. I ended up respeccing out of all the Bombs and Smoke, too (it never saved my behind once), and never bothered with the Gun Drone at all.

I use the Targetting Drone, and put the Increased Perception proc (from whatever the heck that low-level to-hit set that comes from - name escapes me atm), which counters the night widows' "blinded" effects.

Thus, I only needed a few powers out of the entire set, enabling me to take all of the primary attacks, and ended up with all the defense I was looking for.

The nuke kills everything with its usual "holy moley, what WAS that?!" effectiveness without the Build up. I had concerns. Turned out unnecessarily.

RoF + Caltrops = Pure Beauty

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Great info.

I appreciate that you were able to clearly explain to new players that the set has its ups and downs and the real reality expected when using the set and not some guide boasting some fictitious hype about how it can conquer the world.

As dumb as it sounds and as obvious as it is. I just never thought of TIME BOMB and Toe bombing.. That is 1000% better then doing it with trip mine.

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Great guide. I'd read somewhere about someone liking the concept behind a Trick Arrow/Dual Pistols Defender, all weaponsmaster/commando type and that made me think of the DP/Devices Blaster I'd been considering. Now I'm rampantly reading everything I can on DP/Dev Blasters, DP/Traps or DP/TA Corruptors, and TA/DP or Traps/DP Defenders to try and figure out which one I like best. This is very helpful and informative, and fun to read on top. Decisions, decisions.

Also, thanks for your offer of aid in game. Appreciate that too, though I'm doing alright for now. Leveling, I don't much worry about funding beyond crafting any handy IOs that drop for me (and costume piece recipes, but I'm still pretty enchanted with the character customization). I figure anything shiny and pricey bought at that point is just gonna get replaced anyway.

Edit: It was Malk who I read that turned me onto doing the commando merc type character. Just, you know, credit where it's due and stuff.

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Very well done guide, seebs. I especially like how you called /devices a primary and justified yourself in doing so.

You've turned into quite the contributor around here in a few short months of playing the game. For what it's worth, I'm impressed.

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Very nice guide, Seebs!

As a fan and practitioner of /Devices and what one can do with them, I definitely agree about /Devices becoming like your primary and echo Dechs's comments above me.


As I am familiar with Archery/Devices I noticed that you didn't mention much about them. I suppose there's not much more to add other than what you said about weapon sets and their higher accuracy...

I will mention (you slightly touched on it) Caltrops can (and possibly should) be placed just near trip mines (behind the mines/ahead of where the enemies are running towards) to make enemies that are running towards you not run too fast and avoid the damage of the explosions.
Very few things are worse than leading a string of enemies towards you over your field of devastating KABOOMS only to see them run by it all with explosions being nothing but pretty behind them.
I generally throw the caltrops just slightly behind myself after placing the trip mines. The radius of the caltrops will slightly over lap onto the trip mines and should cause the enemies to slow once they HIT the mines and not before (which would cause them to turn and mostly avoid the trip mines).


Also, it is worth stressing a bit more that the Mag 3 Stun of Taser will combine with another stun from your Blast set to two-shot stun a Boss.
I know most all of us realize this, but it is still worth stressing.
You mention things more from your personal experience as a DP/Dev (which is understandable and fine).
Just chiming in as an Archer with Devices and saying that a Stun Arrow and Taser is nice for that rare boss who makes it through all my set traps and I actually have to fight!


Just my personal note on /devices...
While everything said about the way the game is played today when teaming is true... When solo, I find that the time it takes to defeat a typical spawn by setting up adequate bombs and traps and triggering everything off is roughly equal to doing it the normal way using other sets.
It is roughly equal the time solo, but with extreme survivability.
Large spawns with EBs will take longer to set up, but (if done right) it will take around the same amount of time as it would have to whittle them down with normal attacks... Only with Devices you don't spend that time attacking and being attacked and popping greens and what-have-you...
You set it up and watch the fire works.
And quickly move on to the next.

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My experience is, for a spawn I can defeat with or without trip mines, one trip mine and a bunch of regular attacks is faster. For a spawn I can't actually defeat without trip mines, trip mines is infinitely faster even if it's slow. I am pretty sure I gain XP slightly faster if I just run at densities I can easily clear anyway.

Good point about the caltrops and trip mines. I've tended not to put trops on the mines too much because of the avoid, but a partial overlap is a good thought. I'll be updating this again "real soon now".

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Yeah, I'd say you're right about times.
What you mention right there makes me think of another point though...
With /Devices we can take out things that are way over our ability through normal means. And I don't think that's just because we have /devices.
We can take things out beyond our normal soloing capability and take them out rather safely (If you know what you're doing, take the extended amount of time and don't get too unlucky).

That might be one of my biggest thrills with the powerset!

Anyways, just rambling... Nice guide, Seebs!

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Yeah. It was weird to me having a blaster that could solo at x4 without taking damage.

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finally read the guide and IMHO this is the key graf:

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Nice explanation. I knew it, but I didn't say it. I'll have to update that to explain it.

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Thanks, seebs, for posting your excellent guide to devices. I especially like your view that Devices is the actual primary. That is the way I'm treating it as I level my Sonic/Devices.

One additional note you might like to make under synergies with Sonic is that Taser stacks with Screech to allow for close range stun stacking on bosses. The short range on Taser makes it more of a panic response I suppose than Stun Arrow though as it lacks the range of the Archery combo.

However, It could be combined with Siren's Song to sleep most of a group followed by moving in to stun the boss. Then one could proceed to defeat him with direct single target attacks while maintaining the stun, sleeping the rest of the group as needed, and then finally the remainder could be disposed of with whatever combination of mines/time bomb.

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Nice guide, I think the Katie Hannon TF deserves it's own special mention in any devices guide if you feel.

That is one thing /devices does better than anyone else, the enemies spawn in huge groups at regular intervals in the same place during the kill mary macomber mission. Just enough time to get somewhere near 8 trip mines down. It WILL kill everything, every time, the instant they spawn leaving your team to just kill the AV.

Teams LOVE this, it's hilarious, it's awesome, it's one of the few reasons I haven't murdered my devices.

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Barely a year and a half after someone pointed out that you could stack the huge defiance buff from a gun drone on another gun drone, I've updated to point out that this is possible, and no longer matters because gun drone's defiance bonus has decreased from 39.6% to 6.6%. Also put in some notes about the i24 changes.

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viva Seebs!

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