Memphis_Bill

Reason one: Concept.

For instance, pretty much any Electric set is going to have me create an offshoot of my first "main" and first 50 (who was an elec/elec blaster.) So I've got a (few) elec/elec blasters, a merc/storm (a bit tangental,) an elec/nin stalker, an elec/elec brute, an elec/elec tank, an elec/elec dominator and so forth. No matter how it looks, if a new electric set comes out (and I think they're fairly well covered, unless we can find an "electric buff/debuff" somehow,) there's going to be a new character made with it regardless of look.

Reason 2: Because I haven't played it.

Has nothing to do with, as you put it, "effects changes to the metagame," but it's a reason I'll play a set. Looks don't come into it most of the time (though, in the case of Sonic, it kept me from playing the set for a while.)

I'm not arguing for these to be changed "just because," and I think we have agreement on - as you word it, "effect on impact." I've made the request before, as well, as soon as I saw the PraetPD armors. I *will* argue that there isn't really a good reason for these to be on and visible as they are now all the time, which is essentially what I took issue with in the post I replied to. "On all the time" works for some concepts - not others, and I gave examples of some that wouldn't be (for instance) running around with flames shooting out of every orifice 24/7.

Maybe YOU're opinionated. I'm just right. If more people would just admit that to themselves, the forum would be so much better! >.>

Put down? At what point is there a putdown in there, Sam?

I said:
(A) I don't really buy the market argument - that's a statement, not a putdown, and
(b) I have no sympathy for market conditions. Which I don't. But that's also not a putdown. It's a statement on the market and some of the ridiculous stuff that goes on there.

That's all directly related to the point, and none of it is directed at you at all. I know English isn't your first language - you don't hide it - and you normally seem to get what's being said better than some native speakers I can think of. So why you think any of that is directed at you OR a put down, I'm not sure.

Unless there are 500 of the recipe on with nobody bidding, in which case you vendor it. Or just delete it.

And as for buying what you need - I rarely use the market, between AE tickets, drops, A-merits (and if I could be bothered, Empyrian and Astral merits.) Not to mention trading. I mention that (say) Pneumatic Pistons are overpriced, and within seconds I have one showing up in my email. Friend working on something? I'll send recipes and salvage to them. Not to mention crafting and storing IOs - one step away from storing recipes - and, as mentioned, email. (And storing in the market interface itself.)

So you'll excuse me if I don't buy the market argument. (Or, frankly, have any sympathy for market conditions.)

Why?

Aside from the obvious weapon sets, of course, but why does Electric or Energy Armor have to show anything? I don't see electricity crackling around lines or transformers, for instance - you have to go out of your way to find something like a Jacob's Ladder or Tesla coil to see "crackling electricity," or, of course, lightning. Who's to say I'm not empowering something electrically powered inside my armor?

Same with Energy Armor - why can't it just be like the Praetorian PPD? Absolutely no effect until you're hit (or would have been?) What exactly does "Energy" look like? Sunlight's energy, and I don't "see" that.

And dark armor - other than being asleep, what does "negative" energy look like?

Now, the twelve people who still PVP in this game can argue about needing to see effects - it's understandable there, and why our "no effects" options tend to say "outside of PVP." But the NPCs don't care. They attack my Corrupter the same way they attack my Scrapper. They attack an Invulnerable tank the same way they attack a Fire armor. (And why can't my Fire tank be a Fire elemental, with their two armors being an internal bit of their being?)

No, I can't say I agree that the armors "need" to have a visual representation. Enemy affecting (or damaging) effects like Electric field, sure - gives an idea of where the area of effect is. But just plain armors? Nope. I can see just fine that they're toggled by looking at the buttons with little comets swirling around them.

... which, again, I don't see when I play it. To me, no, there isn't a (technical) issue with the end game raids.

You say the stability fixes haven't worked, but I haven't had any issues. It may be that their systems are more like mine, or at least giving them my experience, which would make it REALLY hard to reproduce what's going on.

Basically, saying "Fix it!" doesn't really do anything.

Reminds me of a comment from Arcanaville a while back talking about various things in the game. "If you think you know how the code works, you're wrong. If you think you know how it works from experience programming, you're really wrong."

Oh, also:

From here. ("Confirmed list of I21 changes." Thought I'd heard that somewhere.)

Strangely I can use the same argument against you:

"I can sum up most of your points as 'You're wrong because I don't think Walk should be changed.'"

Simple naysaying? You're making assumptions, I'm pointing out that that's exactly what they were - and this is the best you can come back with?

Sounds more to me like you don't want to admit your argument holds less water than a fishing net.

"Just reroll" is what it has to do with it. (Which I agree with - at that level, a reroll's not a big loss.)

Still leaves you with Brawl, at least one attack from your primary or secondary, and the origin temp power by default. Three attacks minimum. Unless you're chasing down red or purple enemies, you can still progress - and really, at level 6, progress not much more slowly than everyone ELSE.

Then you hit level 10 and can use build #2 to fix things if you want.

(Side note to forbin - no, the test server does *not* show up by default on the NCSoft launcher. If you have it installed, yes, it does - but I have a machine without it installed, installed the launcher - no mention whatsoever of test even existing.)

That is not in the least a "logical conclusion." It is an assumption on your part.

Why did we get Ninja Run? Not because we needed a travel power, but because someone thought it fit the martial arts theme. Perhaps from watching anime.

Why did we get Beast Run? Not because we needed a travel power, but because it fit the more animalistic characters people could make with the parts in that pack. You know... an RP reason.

Sort of like why we got Walk in the first place.
And with the insults....

How do you KNOW there was more or less effort put into Ninja Run versus Walk? How do you KNOW that Walk didn't actually take MORE time to do in order to add the suppression?

Answer: You don't. But since it fits your ASSUMPTION to say it didn't take as much work, you want to throw it out as a fact to try to shoot down a perfectly reasonable request.


Show me where you purchased any of them separately instead of part of a pack. And if you purchased the GvE edition (which was *the only* edition available for some time,) you did not pay extra for the jump pack. Just like I didn't pay extra for the Prestige Power Slide (or cape of the four winds) I got with my COH CE I started the game with. There was no other edition for me to *buy* at the time.

No, actually, it is not.
Because, of course, they never rework anything they've given us for free ("For free" meaning "Without extra cost on top of the subscription.") They have always charged us for costume parts. THey charged us for power customization. They charged us for alternate animations. They charged us for...

Wait, they didn't?

So they DO go back and revisit things they gave us for free? Doing things besides bug fixes, responding to reasonable requests from the playerbase?

Imagine that.



Your avatar's costume is in red. Your name is not.
No, the "cost versus free" is *not* "enough to shoot down this idea." Not in the least.

/this.

Freedoom is about the only place I've ever seen someone charge for a farm - much less have it commonplace. And, frankly, I think the people who are paying are suckers - the farmer's already going to get a fair chunk of INF coming in from recipes, INF drops and tickets. The farm will run the same whether you're there or not. *shrug* But I don't use them, I just laugh at them and shake my head the few times I bother going to that server.

He's not. I have seen this. From "Must be +3 or healer" for itrials - and I don't mean MO runs - down to "Must be AT/powerset" (and the inverse of kicking "non-healer" defenders.)

It makes it *more* relevant. This is the *official* board. Juvenile nonsense like that (a) coming from the mods and (b) making posts *more difficult* to read should be discouraged.

If you see things like that here, and you see things like, oh, the end of Antimatter's arc (with "This is text!" and "I am still inactive" coming up,) frankly I'd have to wonder if there was a paid design team or someone's 12 year old in charge.

Sums it up pretty well.