Unlimited Respecs in Starter Zone

I think the starter zone should have a contact who grants unlimited respecs while you are in the zone. As a safeguard, only characters under level 6 would be allow to use the feature. Once you leave the starter zone you would use the normal respec system. While it only affects a small number of powers, committing to your first 3 power choices when you know nothing about the game or your character can mess you up early on (particularly, not knowing to slot Stamina). Particularly with ATs like Controllers where your choices might be something un-straightforward, like: Mezmerize, Dominate, Levitate, Confuse (assuming you could actually hit lvl 6 in the zone), Entangling Arrow, Flash Arrow, Glue Arrow.

I'm sorry but I can't see how anyone can screw up a build so badly before level 6 that they need unlimited respecs let alone 1 respec.

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At level 10, I'll be able to have 4 Travel Powers!



Yes, I'm including hover, deal with it.

It would be useful for people who want to see what the powers actually do before going into the world, like you can do in some other games. If you can "just reroll" then IMO there isn't a huge argument for why you couldn't "just respec." You could try all of the powers and then leave the tutorial with the ones you wanted. Standard code rant applies.

I think the OP actually meant looking at the powers FUNCTION not just the FORM.
What does the power do INGAME against enemies rather than what does your toon do when you click the power.

This I think is more inline with what a lot of ppl (myself included) have asked for with the character generator. An actual zone where you can run around and attack those unkillable "dummies" to see how your powers look.
It would be nicer if we could actually fight/defeat something in this zone so you can see how powers like Levitate work and how damaging they are. Of course these mobs dont cound for XP, debt, drops, # of kills, etc.

For example when I first played this game I made a Corruptor and died so often as I didnt know the mechanics and had unrealistic expectations for that AT (a friend told me how awesome his Corr was but he didnt classify he was lvl 50 with full IO Sets).

This would obviously be more helpfull when looking at your toon at level 25+ rather than level 6. By the time you've hit level 25 as a new player (so no PLing) thats a lot of time invested and a "just re-roll" may make some want to leave the game.

You mean a test server that is advertised as an option during character creation.
A test server that isnt a pain to install and actually use (Ive read so many forum threads about problems with the Test Server).

I didnt know we had that?

Even then why should I have to create my character on one server and then recreate on my live server of choice? Its not very intuitive. Its not very user-friendly.
So do we have something? Yes.
Is it sufficiently implemented? Hell no.

"Read the forums" people wll say.
First time MMO players may find the forums daunting.
We should be making the game easier for new players to understand, play around with.
Saying there is no EASY way to test, instead you have to install a 2nd version of the game and make some manual changes so you can test a character and then when ur happy recreate that same character on another server is a half baked idea. Lets flesh it out some.

For those of us who have played the game for a while we know these things. With experience comes knowledge.
The devs are doing a LOT of work to make the game easier for new players.
This would also help.

No, it really won't. The "new" player will start to wonder how he can have unlimited respec's by lv 6 and then have only a limited amount after that. Not to mention the chaos on these forums from the vets who "want this feature extended to all levels or they will quit." Sometimes an idea has to be completely thought out from all angles before making any suggestions. These are just 2 of several that can come up.

No thanks. I don't feel the need to respec a power before it has a few slots and at least SOs. You really don't have a good feel for it until then.

My last post was of support for an improved character generator with a testing zone (and reasons why) rather than support for unlimited repecs before level 6.
It was based on my first post so I think I may have hijacked this thread unintentionally

Damn tangents

I think that Tex's logic is sound... if it can be argued that it is useless to give respecs because you should just make the character over... then what is lost by allowing them to "fix" their current character?

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Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master you can preview all the powers from within the character creator before even loading into the tutorial during the power customization screen so that reason also doesnt hold water

Perhaps... but if you are truly new to the game (or perhaps MMOs as a whole) you may not have a clue as to how the powers WORK. Yes, it says Immobolize, or Hold or Stun... but you may not have a handle on what that all means or how it plays out in the real game world. Sleeps are an excellent example of this, they SOUND useful, until you see how they actually work.

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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project Oh, I see. Too bad there isn't a Test Server where players can do that before making their final choices on the live servers.

Are you F-ing serious? You actually expect players who are new, possibly new to the entire genre of MMOs to install this game, install the game again (regardless of method) and then play around on servers that will count for nothing on their actual characters to experiment and learn about the game... and THEN go back and make sure they remember everything they just learned and make the character again? Man, if you want people to not play this game... wow.

Actually my original logic was "some other games have this and it looks really polished." You have to exit the tutorial to enter the game anyway. I can see why this might not be implemented (lots of things aren't), but fighting it tooth and nail is just... well to me its like taking a firm stance along the lines of "Under NO circumstances should a Merit vendor be added to Perez Park." May heaven shine its light on the Suggestions forums.