LunaWisp

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Be warned the abandon mission feature wont always save you from this.

If this is the contact I'm thinking it is he has a series of missions which goes 'beat up 45 carnies in PI' 'go beat up 45 more carnies in PI' 'now do it again one more time because I hate you' literally 3 in a row, so ditching one only mildly lessons the horror.

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I think I know which one you're talking about. This is a different one and it was 65 carnies, not 45. Moved on quite happily to the next mission which was a 'proper' one.

Am I the only person here who can't solo an EB with my MM then? Every time she gets near an EB, the pets are wiped out instantly closely followed by running away or a faceplant. I've never seen a pet survive more then one hit against any EB. She's a necro/poison MM, fine in teams but when soloing, a hard hitting mob just cuts the pets down like they weren't there.

Last one I tried was Ghost Widow. I tried sending pets in first, they got wiped out in one hit. I then tried debuffing the EB first, that got me wiped out instantly instead. Can't see how it's possible without a bucketful of purple inspirations for each pet and the MM. Pity it's not possible to carry that many...

Oh, tried Ghost Widow on my fire/rad controller a few weeks later as well. Exactly the same result, though she has managed some other 'minor' EB's in the past.

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The easiest way to hunt carnies is to keep clearing the two ships (including non-carnies). Every time a spawn is completly cleared it is quickly replaced.

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I guess 'quickly' is a relative term. It wasn't quick enough for me

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Leave the area and return - normally there will be fresh spawns. If you are still in the immediate area - that does include the other ship - they won't respawn.

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Heh thanks, I know about that one. I was in a hurry though and 65 was a lot to wait for since you very rarely get more than half a dozen at a time. Far quicker to just abandon the thing and get on with the next one. I know they'd like us to only use the abandon mission thing for bugs but when time wasters come along, I sometimes use it there too.

It's a 'warm up' as well. If you enter a mission un-sk'd and you then get your sk, it seems to take an age before you start getting the right level of exp. It's maddening sometimes when the fights are going on and you're getting nothing at all for them. This is another change made which I don't understand at all.

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There was no patch note today

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There's one now, a bug fix.

This is a remarkably long thread considering it doesn't really matter what any of us think. If the devs decide a power set needs looking at, they'll do whatever they feel they need to do. If and when that happens, some people will jump up and down with joy while others will threaten to leave for good, still others will shrug their shoulders and get on with it.

Interesting discussion but completely pointless...

Seems people have had problems with the 8800's and SLI on this game. I have SLI disabled on my pair of 7800's though it doesn't make any difference at all that I can see.

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Hang on you quoted me, it wasnt me!

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Oops sorry. Can't have been my fault though, I'm a super hero don't you know

That's true but I wasn't hunting those bosses. Apologies for hajiacking the thread

I don't think I've actually completed that non marcone bosses one even on my ancient (in relative terms again) MM. More or less lost interest in badges to be honest, except for the exploration ones which give you a little exp.

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The easiest way to hunt carnies is to keep clearing the two ships (including non-carnies). Every time a spawn is completly cleared it is quickly replaced.

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I guess 'quickly' is a relative term. It wasn't quick enough for me

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Of course nobody agrees, cause noone likes their chars get weaker.

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Well, I disagree that we need more nerfs, we've had more than enough already and some of my toons have been on the receiving end of them. One of them got hit harder than most by ED and IO's haven't made up the shortfall. No more of my toons would be affected by the changes you proposed because I don't use any of those power sets in any of them. I still don't like the idea though.

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Did you know that Ignite has this awkward pause during which you just stand there ...

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They all have that pause, just that AR's are longer than most.

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Rolled a new toon on defiant last night, leveled at 2 straight away and rest didn't get placed in the power tray, although of course it was in my power tab, so I had to drag it in to the power tray.

A little thing but a bit annoying.

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Exactly the same for me on a new toon this morning. As you say it's not a big problem but it is easily forgotten since it has automatically appeared for years. I always run through Outbreak first to get the badge, wonder if that's related.

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I curse the day the devs decided that they needed to make two family badges and make this one so hard to get!

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Almost as annoying at the street hunt for 65 carnies in PI I got earlier in the week. After nearly half an hour in which I hadn't even got a third of the way through it I just abandoned the mission.

Hint: Devs, if we need to find a large number of something, please put a decent number there.

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No you need to pay for your account with a credit card for recuring payment as the system no longer takes debit cards.

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Wonder why they did that. Miost people would agree that debit cards are a far better to pay for things than credit cards. I also thought that credit card companies normally charged for transactions whereas debit cards were not charged in that way. All sounds very odd but I suppose they had a reason for doing it...

Personally, I use my credit card but then I do pay off the balance at the end of every month. If I didn't think I could do that I wouldn't use it at all. The inability to use a debit card would then see me waving goodbye and I'm sure there are lots of other people like me.

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ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR TINY MIND!!!!!

asking for nerfs is just so dum they need to put you back in your rubber room i think, if this game gets any more so called balance its going to fall of its scales and crash into pool of total c r a p

Someone call the police and tell them a nutter called Moghedien is on the lose

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I think you forgot the smiley on the end of that message

Ouch, thats not good at all. At least it's affecting sufficient people to get fixed very quickly. Probably something they already know about if it's that serious. Here's keeping everything crossed for a quick resolution...

I've never seen DE in Hollows, not that I spend a hell of a lot of time there. I have seen them disguised as trees in Croatoa though.

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Oh for goodness sake. Can't stop laughing now. Wonder if they've banned certain combinations of morse code as well?

I'm keeping any further thoughts on this one to myself, I'll just get myself told off otherwise

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I, for one, would like someof my overpowered toons nerfed

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You could always nerf them yourself. Just replace all those expensive purple IO's with TO's, job done

Ok, bit of a joke there but whatever the devs do will affect all of us and we don't all have builds that can lay waste to entire armies of EB's which is why a lot of people are against the idea of global nerfs

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NOTHING is to difficut for a toon on Heroic

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Had to pick up on this one. There may be nothing too difficult for a toon on heroic in the hands of an experienced player but people new to the game would like a fighting chance. Even getting to missions at lower levels can be a hell of a challenge, though not as bad as it used to be I admit.

It's not going to be easy for the devs to come up with a system that gives new players a chance to achieve something while still giving experienced players a challenge. They probably didn't expect people to still be playing after 4+ years!

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Are you implying that if set on heroic, inexperienced teams find things to hard? That has not been my impression (LRSF, STF, and possibly ITF/Sewer Trial excluded).

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Ah, we're approaching this from different angles. I tend to solo a lot so I tend to post mainly from that point of view. I find some things (not necessarily EB's) impossible. I'd be the first to agree that teams can generally steamroller their way through normal missions with hardly a pause and even most TF's are not a huge challenge.

Having said that, even in teams there are some things that are really tough to do which is the way it should be but if we make things harder for teams we're in danger of ending up with a game where soloing is completely impossible. I'm not convinced that would be a good idea.

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The game now is silly easy compared to what i was 4 years ago

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Wasn't that about the time people were complaining on the forums about the amount of grind in the game?


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If you fail now it's mostly due to simple stupidity, or not just paying attention

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I'd like to add one to that. A lack of knowledge of the various groups you are facing and/or the powersets you are using. i.e. new players. If you make things tough for older players, the new ones won't stand a chance. You have to strike some sort of balance and I'm afraid that keeping both sets happy is probably an exercise in futility.


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IMO, noone should be able to solo an AV or a GM.

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I'd agree with that but looking at some of the attempts to make them tougher by giving them what amounts to virtual god mode has been more frustrating than interesting or exciting. I don't know what the answer is to be honest.

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"45s" is filtered because it could be you typing [censored] in l33t the number of times I've typed in "group of 45s round the corner" or words to those effect and its came out as "group of *%£ round the corner"


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Little of what you typed there made any sense to me at all. I have no idea what could possibly be meant by 45s

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I think he means vinyl singles. You know. The "Steal Nemises's Record Collection" mission arcs.

The mish where you steal his cherished original 45 of "It's Raining Men" and then ambush him in HMV is a favourite of mine.

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but but but ... why would that be censored? Ones mind doth verily boggle...

Maybe what's needed here then is a new look at the 'difficulty' grading system. Some missions are virtually impossible on heroic for some AT's yet others can do them with relative ease on invincible.