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I really disliked that build, immensely. I don't mean to be rude, but I found that a bad build.
Your best AoE attack (L. Field) has no accuracy, damage or end reduction, it should be slotted for damage, acc and endred. Your other AoE (L. Drops) is also not slotted for damage at all.
Divine Avalanche has a lot less accuracy than it should.
You skipped Lightining Reflexes, a great power for /Elec.
The Steadfast unique could go in Grounded, it's taken kinda late.
No idea why you picked Whirlwind, you'll turn it on just to see if the proc fires? I'd get CJ and puta a LOTG of a Def IO for added defense/mobility.
All your attacks except for GD are undeslotted for damage and accuracy, I'd consider getting rid of SotW and getting L. Reflexes. Also, I'd get tough and weave and forego CP and PP, you won't have endurance problems with Power Sink.
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Well all defensive sets feel squishy until their 30s, a steadfast unique somewhere early helps that. My Claws/SR scrapper is 35 and felt squishy until 32 or so when I got more slots and better IOs. My EM/Nin Stalker never felt too squishy because Stalkers aren't usually surrounded by mobs like brutes and scraps and /nin has a great self-heal.
Your build looks fine to me, on my DB/Elec scrapper I skipped Nimble Slash because everyone told me the weaken and empower combo are good only until you have decent accuracy, and now that she's 25 I have no problems with that, took me only about 13 hours to reach this level. Empower is even less useful on a brute because of Fury, and DB is a fast fury builder as you probably noticed. I prefer Power Slice because the Sweep combo is great for mitigation (Stalkers get the combo very early so I could test it on my lowbie DB/Nin).
The only DB/EA build I have planned is for a Stalker so it's quite different, and I'm too tired to fiddle with builds now, but here's a SS/EA Brute build I posted in another topic with everything softcapped, except psi of course, and with the BoTZ nerf the negative nrg def (hardest to cap on EA) might be a bit below the softcap, perhaps 44%ish. But maybe this build can give you some ideas on how to softcap an Energy Aura Brute, or get close to it:
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I was told Melt Armor is a cool emote that eats up a lot of endurance and debuffs resistance less than a sonic blaster tier 1 attack
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Would an elec/shield/blaze have problems farming at like +2/x8 with bosses? Because you know, bosses drop rares nowadays...
Undecided on fm/sd/blaze or elec/shield/blaze, on the latter I have a build that gets 3 secs off permahasten without going crazy (purple, pvp ios, etc) while maintaining melee and ranged caps. The fm/shield manages 8 secs from permahasten but has a very decent ST attack chain for bosses. -
Well you had 6 LoTGs +rech in the last build you posted so I removed one. 3-slotted Weave with HOs and 4-slotted Stamina with PSs (so, more general recovery, extra 2.5% recov bonus and extra HP).
And an extra common endmod IO in PP augments your recovery more than the 4% bonus from abs amazements in Boxing. Only a little, but since PP is now better enhanced for endmod, I moved the Miracle Unique there and got quite a bit more recovery. Hope it gives you some ideas.
Couldn't change the recharge without screwing up the defense tho
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Quoting myself because I was wrong, I thought a set named kinetic melee would be fast like DM. Then I watched the video... Looks like another Energy Melee, hope I'm wrong since there will be other powers.
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Any builds you could share for a perma earth/earth just to give me some ideas? I tried making one but I ran out of slots because I wanted 3 powers from Mu Mastery (PSink, Charged Armor and the Mu pet because he heals you). I was on the fence on getting tremor, I skipped it on my sm/elec brute... Maybe Fissure is enough at the endgame?
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Thanks for the info Prey! I remember seeing something like that right after I left (I read the forums for awhile because I still liked them even though I couldn't post
). Seems bosses would be the way to go then, well maybe depending on how often they drop the good stuff. So FM/SD would be better than Spines/DA, Spines/Fire or Elec/SD (I think). Damage and s/l def-capped Fire/kins can deal well with bosses with the fast recharging hold and Seismic Smash.
Well Terror1 I think the almost perma-hasten elec/sd build I made without going nuts on the IOs except for some Lotgs and the two health uniques (the build is not very suitable for normal play below 45-50, capped melee and ranged def tho) might be cheaper than the Spines/Fire with 33% melee def and 50ish recharge... And I couldn't find the slots for Fireball and blast on the spines one. Although I have a Spines/Dark in the 20s on Virtue, I primarily play on Freedumb (well in i17 we're supposed to be able to mail influence to other toons right?), and once a friend asked my 50 dm/da to help with the bosses on a demon farm... Dark armor made the farm so freakin' easy for my buddy because almost everybody was mezzed due to OG, of course I didn't have any decent AoE to try to farm alone on my DM/DA, but I killed the bosses for him, easy enough before the S. Life buff.
This is the elec/sd, ended up with two panic buttons (L.Clap and OwtS, the stupefy set bonuses are amazing imo). Leveling I'd certainly pick J.Ladder and Chain Induction and ignore L.Clap, I'll see what I can do with Fire/SD later.
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Quote:Seems it will be pretty but not fastVideo here for those who haven't seen it... o.o
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Bah, double post. BTW I love /EA's look and powers so I'd go on with the toon, just a personal opinion.
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Well eventually you'll have mitigation if you take the sweep combo, plus the KD on a huge cone (One Thousand Cuts). Not to mention your end problems will be gone at 29 (slotted energy drain) and it's not hard to cap s/l/e/n defenses in Energy Aura, you can cap f/c too although I don't bother with it.
That said, WP also wouldn't have end issues and you'd have a ton of regen and HP, plus a mix of defense and resists. WP is the Brute set that can 'farm on SOs' according to the experts, it's crazy survivable.
SR would make for a hella tight build with possible end issues, but you wouldn't be subject to cascading defense failures like /EA (I think EA gets around 51% defdebuff resistance, SR gets 95%) and the psi attack that are marked as ranged / AoE (mental blasts, psy scream and such, anything that isn't from mind control or blind from illusion) will be dodged by a SR but not by EA. Plus you get Quickness (20% rech and runspeed) and a decent taunt aura, WP's taunt aura sucks and EA has taunt only in energy drain. SR is easier and cheaper to softcap defenses too. -
Kinetic Melee/ EA will be FAST AND PRETTY.
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Quote:On a high recharge build, they recharge every 25-26 secs. I have a planned build that while in Hasten BU recharges in 27s and SC and LR in 26s. Hasten has a 6 sec downtime on that build, so I think every 29-30 secs would be a reasonable number, maybe 26-27 secs on a perma hasten build (my BU has 6 gaussians in it so it recharges 1 sec slower than the telenukes, if I put just 3 rech on it the timers would be closer, after all BU and the nukes all have the same base recharge).And lets face it, with Elec/SD the biggest question centres around how quick someone can spam Build Up - Shield Charge - Lightning Rod ?
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A Kinetic Melee/Energy Aura toon would be so FAST and PRETTY.
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Maybe in i18 we'll get some new emotes.
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Not a scrapper expert here but I'd go for the second scenario, the 26% ranged should take care of a lot of fire/cold attacks. On my /EA Stalker I didn't even bother increasing the F/C def and never felt a difference, same on an Ice/Fire Tanker, I breezed through mobs even on those Croatoa missions with the all-fire throwing pumpkin head mobs. And SLNE are so much more prevalent, that 5% will surely make a bigger difference. IIRC most ice attacks have s/l components.
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Thanks Werner, nice to know FM/SD is competitive, because, y'know, farming a lot is hella boring and my experience with ELM was not that good in pve on a 50 brute because of the slow killing speed on hard mobs. Maybe I'll giv it a try later and farm a bit on my ELM/Stone to see how he performs now that we can set for 'no bosses' (although I don't even know if +2/x8 no bosses is the best setting, don't bosses drop rares recipes now?), he's only partially IO'ed so I'll have to get a kin or two.
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I just returned and been enjoying my newish DB/Elec so it isn't a pressing question, but I'll eventually want a 'lazy' farmer, because I find clicking transfusion, transference, siphon speed etc is tiresome since farms are already boring. And with the new prices I'll eventually need one, I have a fire/kin but as I said, I get tired, even with his 35% s/l def - only when farming, teaming with him isn't a big deal for me because it's usually challenging and all.
So by 'best' I mean 'fast and lazy', because in my head I think I could just bind some key to BU, shift+lclick to LRod and ctrl+lclick to SC, kinda like I do on my Fire/Traps corr on normal PvE play (Aim, Caltrops, Rain of Fire respectively bound to those - no I don't use Aim before Caltrops). And then I guess I'd just use Thundestrike and Fireball while the telenukes recharge.
Is this the best route for a scrapper farmer? Or maybe Fire/SD/Blaze? I have a spines/fire on the 30s so if speed is comparable to elec/sd I might just level the spiny one eventually, although having to line the Throw Spines cone is a bit counterproductive to my 'lazy farmer' wish.
I'm asking because I've never seen a scrapper farm very fast (I've admittedly seen only 2 or 3 doing it). I've seen a Warshade farm at a very good rate but you know, WSs are one of the busiest ATs to play even on +0 difficulty radio missions.
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Of course you have transference, but just be wary that Oblits has next to no end reduction. I like to slot 6 multistrikes when I go for the melee def bonus, or the 2 acc/dam/end + 2 dam/end for saving slots and getting like 43% acc/92% dmg and endred.
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Please post the datachunk, downloading files and opening another Mids instance is not cool
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Oh btw your link to the Spines/Fire guide is broken.
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Quote:You're welcome! TBH I also don't worry about AoE on my stalkers, but you never know what people wantKioshi,
Thank you for taking the time to assist, I appreciate it! All feedback is welcome.
Personally, I dont slot for AOE defense for two reasons - one is that the -KB IO is hella expensive for BotZ. The second reason is AOE damage in the PVE world isnt all that common. Yes, I know there are some out there (Vahz pukers come to mind) but I have never slotted any of my toons for AOE and haven't regretted it yet. Just my personal preference.My EM/Nin with low AoE def got to 50 before the buffs with no trouble at all.
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I don't have a 50 on Virtue but I've been playing only my DB/Elec scrapper (still 22) since I returned (like 4 days ago). You'll probably find me on the channels soon, haven't played much since I came back.