Critique my Stone/Stone Brute (please!)


Kioshi

 

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First stone/stone brute, got myself to 46 ATM no problems. Just thought that it may be a good idea to get others to take a look at my build, I would rather keep it on the cheap side as I don't have that much inf atm. Thanks (:

If needed.. I do like participating in TFs/SFs and I do not plan to Pvp. I usually play on teams also.

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Stone Brute: Level 50 Science Brute
Primary Power Set: Stone Melee
Secondary Power Set: Stone Armor
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Teleportation
Power Pool: Fighting

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Stone Mallet -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(5), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 1: Rock Armor -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), GftotA-Run+(7)
Level 2: Heavy Mallet -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(5), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 4: Stone Skin -- Aegis-ResDam(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(7), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(46)
Level 6: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 8: Fault -- Mocking-Taunt(A), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg(11), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(11), Mocking-Acc/Rchg(15), Mocking-Taunt/Rng(17), Mocking-Rchg(25)
Level 10: Recall Friend -- Empty(A)
Level 12: Taunt -- Mocking-Taunt(A), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg(13), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(13), Mocking-Acc/Rchg(15), Mocking-Taunt/Rng(17), Mocking-Rchg(25)
Level 14: Teleport -- Empty(A)
Level 16: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(40), Numna-Heal(42), Mrcl-Rcvry+(46), Mrcl-Heal(46)
Level 18: Seismic Smash -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(19), P'ngS'Fest-Acc/Dmg(19), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/EndRdx(23), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/Rchg(37)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(21), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(21), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(23)
Level 22: Rooted -- RgnTis-Heal/EndRdx(A), RgnTis-Regen+(43), H'zdH-Heal/EndRdx(43), H'zdH-EndRdx(43)
Level 24: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 26: Hurl Boulder -- Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(27), Thundr-Acc/Dmg(27), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37)
Level 28: Build Up -- AdjTgt-Rchg(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(29), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(29), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(50), AdjTgt-ToHit(50)
Level 30: Mud Pots -- Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(31), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx(31), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(31)
Level 32: Tremor -- Erad-%Dam(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), C'ngBlow-Acc/Rchg(33), C'ngBlow-Acc/Dmg(34), C'ngBlow-Dmg/EndRdx(34)
Level 35: Earth's Embrace -- Dct'dW-Rchg(A), Dct'dW-Heal(36), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(36), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(36), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 38: Granite Armor -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Aegis-ResDam(39), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(39), LkGmblr-Rchg+(39), GftotA-Run+(40), GftotA-Def/EndRdx(40)
Level 41: Tough -- Aegis-ResDam(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(42), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(42)
Level 44: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(45), GftotA-Run+(45), GftotA-Def/EndRdx(45)
Level 47: Minerals -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), GftotA-Run+(48)
Level 49: Crystal Armor -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), GftotA-Run+(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Fury



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@War-Nugget
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Originally Posted by Wavicle View Post
CoH players are stupid and incompetent compared to WoW players.
As was said in Gran Torino, "Your world is nothing more than all the tiny things you've left behind", let CoH be one of those things. Don't forget, forgive.

 

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You should really think about hasten instead of hurl boulder. In my opinion hasten only needs two level 50 Generic IOs in it anyway, so that would free up some slots for other things as well like topping off recharges and accuracy.

Minerals and those other toggles can't be used with Granite armor up either, so I see you're using those as mules anyway. I would just put the one LOTG recharge if that's all you are using and you can throw those slots else where.

Tremor is a good spot for the force feedback +recharge proc as well. you could fit that in there if you switch around a bit after dropping hurl boulder.


 

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Okay, I was just looking over what you said.. and if I did remove hurl boulder, I would be removing some regeneration (12% to be exact).. and if I was to place hasten there, 2 slot it, I would have around 5 slots left to place. I don't really see where I could place them. Also, I would be losing an attack.. in my opinion that isn't too great..

But the other things you said, I could attempt to work with. I would be losing some move speed, but getting a better recharge, which could even it all out.


@War-Nugget
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wavicle View Post
CoH players are stupid and incompetent compared to WoW players.
As was said in Gran Torino, "Your world is nothing more than all the tiny things you've left behind", let CoH be one of those things. Don't forget, forgive.

 

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Honestly at lvl 50 Hasten 3 slot it ! i use often,close to per-ma u can get and better chances of fury bar get over 99%, as far as minerals and crystal armor i would drop!, i don't like and never use, and at lvl 50 seems not needed in many of current TF, and taunt is good have, but typically 2 slotted work just as well as 4!
I have run over over 200+ LRSF,, now i am Fire \Brute, and realize many of my attacks have a base taunt in them(i Don't slot taunt enhancements into none of them), base taunt works fine!.
Fact is my mod pots grab aggro and slows 4 and i taunt grabs 4, that's pretty much average group size,many times i can handle couple more! or cap.
Not perfect,but Death is not in my Build!, give me a Good KIN with SB,FS= I Rock on the victory server 4 years now!(REz)
and many my TF teams seem to to just fine.
keep in mind i also have Purple Enhancement sets and 17= 52+ Synthetic Hamidon's combined.not info u requested or what u were asking 4 ,but hope this helps, and look forward to running with u again soon!


 

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Originally Posted by shedevil View Post
as far as minerals and crystal armor i would drop!,
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give me a Good KIN with SB,FS= I Rock
The low level armors, except the one that gives resistance, are great to keep as set mules, as well as for exemplaring. A pure Granite build is useless if it exemplars below 35 (27 for tanks). And if you're building properly, a Kin isn't needed at all.

Nugget, assuming this brute is on Victory, hit me up Sunday or Monday. I've got a few enhancements I can throw your way, and maybe even help you out with some cash. When I get home from work, I'll take a look at the build and see if I can make any suggestions for you.


@Roderick

 

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Okay, reworked Hasten into the build. Now have most of the sets, and even softcapped Fire/Cold with the extra slots I had left over. Thanks all for help, suggestions. Sorry about only posting the chunk, the powers wouldnt appear properly <,<


@War-Nugget
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wavicle View Post
CoH players are stupid and incompetent compared to WoW players.
As was said in Gran Torino, "Your world is nothing more than all the tiny things you've left behind", let CoH be one of those things. Don't forget, forgive.

 

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Please post the datachunk, downloading files and opening another Mids instance is not cool


 

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A pure Granite build is useless if it exemplars below 35 (27 for tanks)

===kinda True ! useless is Harsh! unlike a tank with higher ability take more base damage, taking damage is not all i am about, i can and will bring it! idea is i kill targets and target dies- dead before me!
at lvl 35 I do have Stone Skin,Rock Armor,Tough and Weave, Stealth in 1 run powers, and red wisp along with good regeneration rate.EB, Build up, and 3 primary attacks ,1 vet ranges attack, brawl,and boxing(stun) hauling tray full inspirations. beside i pick and plan my targets and no how pull when needed!if needed!not mention was born in battle at young age, Demonic, Forces of nature, and ability get 5 shivs in 5-10 min! if needed., i always have at least 1.and consider my self professional temp power maker in base always keep required salvage in safe in base if not on me or quick purchase at Black Market .
Running at lvl(35) doesn't happen vary often on my lvl 50, and trade off is Bing total awesome on higher lvl(45_50) Task Force which does happen almost ever day!, i run vary often!
Now first let me say its Team effort and want Credit the teams many well builds\ Toons of all kinds including other stones! there are Many vary well build Stones Brutes on victory!
With that Bing said sometimes i can play great and other times i can be totally off the chart AWESOME typically a kin or two is involved!

as i said at lvl 50 far as minerals and crystal armor i would drop! when it comes to running lower lvl teams (35 and lower) I have many lower lvl builds 4 that!, honestly i seldom have major issue there!

Its big game changer at lvl 50 u need be all u can be!
earning Master Badges requires No Deaths,No Temp powers. I have My Master Badges and have help many get there's!
LRSF, ITF, LGTF,BTF,3rd Re-spec, Rik-ti zone Ship raids and ,lvl 54 groups in zones in 99% all fights crystal armor and minerals i do not use, and are not needed! i don't die vary often, and chances are if i do, its lag, or i got careless hit wrong key(which has happened)and trust me= many times i take as much aggro as any stone brute takes the aggro,hence we rush--Fist person in to group of hero's typically the stone brute so I Teleport up on stage all hero's attack me!i get agro other then join in on fight, i taunt each hero hold aggro hopefully until all 7 hero are DEAD!, i done this(last mish LRSF) more then 250 times!in past 3+ years!
I many times have been the only Brute on team! o did i mention not only do i Consistently take a Great Amount of Damage(watching that fury bar) --I bring a great Amount of Damage! and a lot of it!extra slots i don't waste on useless armor's ,this allows me slots in places that Bring and Resist more, much more Valued Damage!
theses armors(crystal armor and minerals) can not be used together with Granite!(most u can hope for is bonus from enhancement set) (as well as places stick 7.5 log.) and may be worth 1 your attack powers,it seems to me as i always have a attack power available to toggle, so attack speed really isn't a issue and that's with out a kin,my Earth Embrace(heal) & Build up(buff up) is almost always up , and i use both often that's how i keep my Hit Points +(Regeneration) or Damage rate maxed out.
Currently in game I (1 Hand Bandid )have Supersonic title! on victory server
(30 day title) Player De-buffed: Complete the LGTF with PLAYERS UNDER CONSTANT DEBUFF selected. The team with this selected and the least amount of deaths will earn the title: Supersonic. *Note: In the event of a tie the winner will be determined by the fastest time.
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=210440

Like i said give me good kin and I will Rock on Task Force team!, as far as my build ! Not been issue-even at lvl 35, do i need a kin ? No !given a choice Speed boost on me when i am Granite and Rooted, no right build compares to that!Rooted (anti-mez power)makes me immune to ever mez power,
Speed boost me and I will bring some serious damage to a group of Hero's with 2 PBAOE attacks dressed with partial balanced optimized Purps set and lvl 52+ Synthetic Hamidon combination, o did i mention 1 of my my patron power Darkest Night(aoe\hit debuf) six slotted. on board is(3) 7.5 LOG,did i mention when u get in my mud pots u be slowed, like stuck in mud!attacks will also be slowed.last i want note is #1 bonus power i try to achieve is Regen\Recovery always focused on Hit Points, and damages received allowing me focus on where who is doing most damages so i can take that target out!while forcing my HP(damage output)to max same time! and if my fury bar Hit 100%(hard to do on my Fire\Brute, which can be good means i am avoiding the serious damage while taking blows holding aggro!, its fine line ,fury bar grows as i attack and is under Bing attacked) add some SpeedBoost and Fulcrum Shift= Game on!
Do i like have kin Around ? YOU BET! LETS PARTY!


 

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yes kins are great for stoneys...no doubting that. but what do u do when there isnt one...

Answer: Make a better build, get purps to increase Rech, if u cant afford purps then slot for rech, you should be idealy around 10%-20% rech WITH granite on. and with hasten up around 80%-90%. i have a ss/stone build with 22.5% rech in granite with 4.09 end recov 1.24 end drain and 88 s/l resist and 35 s/l def. with only 1 purple set of hetacomb. and if i put 5 set of armageddon with +rech proc in Footstomp i can get rech to 32.5% with end recov at 4.12.
might need to re work your build again to increase rech and end recovery


 

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I have 21 Purp slotted in all and 17 lvl 52+ hami's


 

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well i know your build is solid nugget. i was directing my comments toward the build in the thread.

sounds like a pretty expensive stone build though. gratz on that


 

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er my B, i meant solid build to shedevil, nuggests needs some work