New Farm Toon


Bin Man

 

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Hi guys, what with all the new power mingles etc. i am interested in a new farming toon.

Currently i have:

Fire.Kin Controller

Spines.Dark Scrapper

SS.WP Brute

I don't farm on my spines.dark much as i don't like the end drain, the fire.kin is good always has been and the brute is also enjoyable.

My mate has an elecmelee.SD scrapper and says it is awesome for farming. He is pretty good at it, but i want to know what the best is.

Honestly i think a brute can put up more damage than a scrapper with rage and footstomp especially with shield defence.

What should it be?

ElecMelee.SD Scrapper or a SS.SD brute? or perhaps an ElecMelee.SD brute?

Thanks for any info!


 

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I think the main reason SS is popular is Rage. If you go SD and have AAO, that's not as important, and you can go for a set with more AoE potential than SS has.

I really like my Mace/SD Brute, but Elec Melee is really good choice as well.


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what will you be farming? Cause i use different farm toons for different things i like to change it up. I get bored farmin same toon and npcs over and over.


 

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Well its been a while since i have farmed, i know AE has been nerfed a fair bit, is it worth staying there or going back the the old farm missions?


 

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Well, your fire/kin is still probably your best bet for the BM (demon) farm, I know that much. I would guess the elec/SD scrap would be good for Freakshow?


 

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Although I have no experience with a Fire/Kinetic controller, I do have with a Spines/Dark scrapper....and mine is a beast. You do need proper IO slotting to overcome so many toggles. End management is almost trivial now that's he's slotted up.


 

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Originally Posted by Bin Man View Post
My mate has an elecmelee.SD scrapper and says it is awesome for farming. He is pretty good at it, but i want to know what the best is.

Honestly i think a brute can put up more damage than a scrapper with rage and footstomp especially with shield defense.

What should it be?

ElecMelee.SD Scrapper or a SS.SD brute? or perhaps an ElecMelee.SD brute?

Thanks for any info!
Of the three builds here, I would have to vote for the elec/sd brute. (But it all depends if you want to farm red side or blue) The scrapper will have a higher base dmg modifier (iirc), but if you can keep your fury up the brute will be hard to beat.




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Originally Posted by Ocularis View Post
Of the three builds here, I would have to vote for the elec/sd brute. (But it all depends if you want to farm red side or blue) The scrapper will have a higher base dmg modifier (iirc), but if you can keep your fury up the brute will be hard to beat.
Either way all my villains will be going to heroes when GR is out lol. But would the damage from full fury + lightning rod with a base time of 1:30 recharge be more damaging overall than full fury + rage + foot stomp on a base recharge of 20 seconds?


 

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I have a elec/sd brute and a SS/SD brute and I would say the SS/SD brute wins hands down(but I like to run +2/8 which is not the best thing to do for farming).The only thing is the SS brute does have some end issues but nothing some blues won't fix.

Now if you do want to make a Elec/SD make it a scrapper. He will do more damage because SD and LR for brutes have the same damage cap as a Scrapper. So with Fruy and AAO, build up does no good for a Brute, but will help out the Scrapper alot.


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Originally Posted by BrokenPrey View Post
I have a elec/sd brute and a SS/SD brute and I would say the SS/SD brute wins hands down(but I like to run +2/8 which is not the best thing to do for farming).The only thing is the SS brute does have some end issues but nothing some blues won't fix.

Now if you do want to make a Elec/SD make it a scrapper. He will do more damage because SD and LR for brutes have the same damage cap as a Scrapper. So with Fruy and AAO, build up does no good for a Brute, but will help out the Scrapper alot.
Awesome! Thanks for that, just the person i wanted to hear from haha

Do you think you could outfarm an elec.SD scrapper on your SS.SD brute? with similar IO's i mean.


 

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I have no experience with Brutes as I really don't like playing red side, but my Elec/SD scrapper is an awesome farmer. He only dies when I get stupid and stop watching my HP bar (for those occasions when a long string of enemy attacks gets through my Defense) and/or I run out of green insps (which almost never happens when I'm soloing).

I can't say anything in comparison with damage on Scrapper versus Brute, obviously, but my Scrapper's AoE damage is quite nice. The only thing that sucks is the fact that his single target damage is on the low side.

I would imagine it kinda comes down to a tradeoff...more AoE burst damage versus more single-target damage in between.


EDIT: Oh, I forgot to mention...my Scrapper farms at +4X8. Whether or not that's the best option for farming, I don't know, but it sure is satisfying.


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Would an elec/shield/blaze have problems farming at like +2/x8 with bosses? Because you know, bosses drop rares nowadays...

Undecided on fm/sd/blaze or elec/shield/blaze, on the latter I have a build that gets 3 secs off permahasten without going crazy (purple, pvp ios, etc) while maintaining melee and ranged caps. The fm/shield manages 8 secs from permahasten but has a very decent ST attack chain for bosses.


 

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Originally Posted by Kioshi View Post
Would an elec/shield/blaze have problems farming at like +2/x8 with bosses? Because you know, bosses drop rares nowadays...

Undecided on fm/sd/blaze or elec/shield/blaze, on the latter I have a build that gets 3 secs off permahasten without going crazy (purple, pvp ios, etc) while maintaining melee and ranged caps. The fm/shield manages 8 secs from permahasten but has a very decent ST attack chain for bosses.
Mines soft capped with 152% rech and i can do +4x8 solo. +2x8 w/ bosses is possible but even soft capped when the bosses DO hit, it hurts. Just grab a green and with enuff rech u should be ok.

As far as farms and levels, i get more purps just running 0x8 but if you want the most inf AND drops then u can go higher, but its not needed. Especially since 47's drops purps..


 

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Originally Posted by Kioshi View Post
Undecided on fm/sd/blaze or elec/shield/blaze
Well, for AoE I'd say the Elec/SD wins. But if you're looking to be farming with bosses in the mix, Fire/SD may be better because Elec ST damage is far from good.


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Thanks for the answers. I have a semi-IO'ed 50 elec/stone Brute and before I left the game I did some invincible (+3/x1) missions in Cimerora to test Elec Melee since I had only teamed with the toon (DXP weekend+ITFs = fast 50). I did the missions out of Granite to test ELM without penalties and took forever to kill bosses (even drained some before killing them because it was taking so long), but they were level 52 or 53.

Maybe SC+FSC+Fireball+FSC can be almost as fast as elec/sd's SC+LR+Fireball, plus I'd have the boss killing ST attack chain.


 

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I'd prolly go fire also for bosses and higher level farming due to faster attack chains. My elec/sd does awesome damage to even con but the higher it gets, the longer it takes to kill. I really don't like elec melee at all, i just love the dual charges tho.