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The MM being the red side "tank" was even before they had bodyguard mode, the plan was for them to "feed" the minion mobs for the alpha then resummon for the next mob. Understandably this didnt take off because its a retarded and linear strategy.

MMs CAN tank the alpha with BG mode and the right secondary but its kinda pointless when brutes do it infinately better.

doesnt 100% of it come from enhancements?

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Electric Armor on a Scrapper (if ported as is) would be terrible. The biggest problem is the lower resistance cap compared to Brutes (75% vs 90%) for two reasons:

1) One of the hallmarks of the set is the sets capped energy resistance. This benefit would be completely diluted at 75%, forcing the Scrapper to take 2.5 times as much damage. Instead of being able to take ~13,380 pure energy damage (not counting regen) before dying (90% res), it would only take 5,352 pure energy damage to kill a Scrapper.

2) Power Surge would suck. For the same reason as above, a Scrapper would be taking 2.5 times as much damage as a Brute. Considering this is a power that Elec Brutes would lean on heavily (due to low mitigation outside of the set) it wouldn't be half as powerful on a Scrapper. Unlike Unstoppable, Elec Armor doesn't have DP (heal +maxhp) or defense (TH, Invin) to stack on top of it.

That's not even mentioning the fact Brutes have higher hp.

Yuck.

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and yet stalkers got it at least scrappers would have more benefit from it than them

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You could use sands of mu, dark melee's shadow maul, and flurry. All of them have super fast punches being thrown all in succession.

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Seconded.

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Thirded.

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That's terrible for Fury, though it does OK for Scrappers and Tankers.

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This is true, they are attacks which lose more fury during their animation than they generates. Mu and flurry are also crap damage

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Links to the original redname usage:
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showflat....ue#Post12069021
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showflat....ue#Post12159065

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Wow, I had never read that post regarding Web Grenade getting replaced in Weapons Mastery. As I have a Scrapper that SHOCK actually uses Weapons Mastery and SHOCK actually has Web Grenade, I would have been extremely pissed off to find that it had turned into a cottage grenade. Very pleased that Castle ultimately decided against it. Web Grenade's probably one of the most useful powers in that set.

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he didnt decide against it, he was "forced" into introducing a 5th tier in several epic sets due to the massive backlash regarding some of them. I have weapon mastery on my MA/Regen and i was inflamed when i saw web grenade was being replaced (as per original intention) with FA (with a different name) if i wanted FA I would have chosen body mastery.

i have a sheild brute, scrapper and tank at 50, its awesome across the board and brutes lose out on NOTHING

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I don't have experience with a DA brute, but I have a DA scrapper at 50.

Neither Cloak of Fear or Oppressive Gloom affect LTs or bosses. What they DO do is take minions out of the fight so you can beat on the LTs and bosses without having to worry about them. If you take Dark Armor on a brute I would say pair it with a primary that builds fury quickly, as minions will not be attacking you to build it for you.

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Brute cloak of fear DOES work on LTs, bit odd really

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Strangely enough, the more I examine some of the traditionally awesome powers and power sets, the more I think Castle is trying to punish them for their previous popularity more than actually trying to balance them.

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It certainly feels that way

I must have made half a billion just cashing in my tickets for essence of furys and selling lol

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In short, you will die more then you miss. Lol but seriously, foc acc will allow you to hit high def mobs with ease. Like those annoying rikti drones, cot demons, nemesis with veng, and those cim traitors. You can even hit mako threw elude easier. Not only that, its res to tohit debuffs is strong. Great in pvp for spotting stalkers since the perception buff stacks with heighen senses. I think it caps it though I'm not sure. I'm not into remembering the numbers as much as I remember what I was able to do with the power. I must warn you that its a real end hog so be ready to slot it. I normaly six slot it with gussians fire control for the def to all bonus and the build up proc. BU + BU proc + critical = a beautiful 4 digit orange number and then some.

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thats old focused accuracy, its value is now minimal, especially with IO set bonuses offering more.

It used to be 20% tohit base, now its 5, sure it has some accuracy but nothing awesome. What is does retain however is the massive endurance cost which is akin to running 3 secondary toggles.

The only thing FA brings now is a way to empty your blue bar faster, any other benifits are better found elsewhere, like tactics and set bonuses. the res to -tohit is nice but hell, pop a yellow when you need to.

It WAS a great power with end costs to balance it, now its junk.

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Its true that its not what it was but I did all those things in its nerfed state. As far as going for leadership over focc acc, I'd rather take conserve power to help with the long fights and the endurance problem. Those leadership toggles can be just as bothersome stacked on to wp. That's 6 toggles not including sprint. 8, if you have tough and weave. Two more end hog toggles. I don't need to pop yellows with foc acc. I was fighting nemesis in that rwz mish with manti and posi on it and I had no problems hitting them even with stacked on veng. (I don't think its fair they can do that but still) well, when that third stack came on, I had problems then. Granted, old foc acc would have hit threw the third stack too. But I think its still worth taking if you have room to slot it right.

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worth taking? its almost the same as as THREE secondary toggles COMBINED in endurance cost, it gives less tohit than tactics (and costs craploads more) AND less than the +tohit IO you can just throw in combat jump.

Its junk, drop in the kismet +tohit IO and call it a day, its not going to really going to make the difference between hitting through veng or not, watch your combat log % numbers with it on and with it off.

this is what you are getting in FA now, one accuracy dual origin enhancement and a kismet +tohit IO for the cost of THREE secondary toggles. Got to say thats not worth it (at least not IMO), you can get those benefits elsewhere EASILY without the endurance burn.

You like it, cool, the games not all about the numbers, I take some "terrible" powers and sets just to have fun

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In short, you will die more then you miss. Lol but seriously, foc acc will allow you to hit high def mobs with ease. Like those annoying rikti drones, cot demons, nemesis with veng, and those cim traitors. You can even hit mako threw elude easier. Not only that, its res to tohit debuffs is strong. Great in pvp for spotting stalkers since the perception buff stacks with heighen senses. I think it caps it though I'm not sure. I'm not into remembering the numbers as much as I remember what I was able to do with the power. I must warn you that its a real end hog so be ready to slot it. I normaly six slot it with gussians fire control for the def to all bonus and the build up proc. BU + BU proc + critical = a beautiful 4 digit orange number and then some.

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thats old focused accuracy, its value is now minimal, especially with IO set bonuses offering more.

It used to be 20% tohit base, now its 5, sure it has some accuracy but nothing awesome. What is does retain however is the massive endurance cost which is akin to running 3 secondary toggles.

The only thing FA brings now is a way to empty your blue bar faster, any other benifits are better found elsewhere, like tactics and set bonuses. the res to -tohit is nice but hell, pop a yellow when you need to.

It WAS a great power with end costs to balance it, now its junk.

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Probably a reference to a bug that causes these things to happen.

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unlikely as thats so incredibly rare most people have no idea that it occurs, devs are not known for broadcasting bugs and its not much of a "secret enterence" either.

I would guess a left over from an unimplimented idea, like the +damage from cloaking device that was in the tooltip for sometime but never got into any player accessable environment.

gj

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One wonders if like me every character on every server is affected, can i logg in? Support says no.....
Will there be refund for time payed for but not being able to play. My guess from the "grab a ticket and get in line" response ive recieved from support two days ago then nothing im guessing not.

Not good devs not good at all.

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really? support said no? I havent got anything past "passing it along" nearly a week ago

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Combustion really is a horrible power. After Fire Ball and Fire Sword Circle the minions and probably the lieutenants will be dead. If not, they'll be dead *long* before Combustion has done anything. Also, that time spent being vulnerable while using Combustion could be far-better used actually killing something, or at least ASing them. You do more damage and are safer by not using Combustion. Really.

Also on the list of bad powers is Blazing Aura. Little damage, TINY radius. Hot Feet will make the mobs run away from you slowly, but BA's radius is so freakin' small that the few enemies close enough to be affected by it in the first place will be out of the radius before a second tick gets off.

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There are NO bad powers in the /fire secondary, only misunderstood powers. Theory doesnt always add up to how things perform. The worst way to play a fire/fire is with manueverability, you stand there and dish out the damage, masses of it, thats how you put the mobs down fast and thats how you are safest. Fire/Fire excels at aoe damage and BA racks up impressive damage over time, as for combustion, thats got a 15 ft radius and hitting 10 foes with it is far better than tossing out a fire blast, in fact using it as its aoe is intended its more than NINE fire blasts.

a lot of the secondary powers seem terrible, I took them all for a joke but in use and unison they are insanely powerful, fire/fire is a walking nuke, leaving out your aoes only weakens your core strengths. Try them and see, its a lot of fun.

well its not like we can expect anything but retarded solutions for non problems is it?

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Yep, when there was the mass exodus of players when I13 hit, they simply covered it up. Even though they clearly lost A LOT of profit in that week, they made a statement saying that subscriptions actually went up and everything was perfect.

So yeah....the only thing accomplished by cancelling is that you don't pay for this POS game anymore. But it will have zero effect on the actual game. I swear, if every single person quits except one, they'll make an official statement for that one person that everything is perfectly fine and subscriptions are at an all time high.

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the games great, just the devs dont get what PvP is, Positron is a paper dice roller and Castles and accountant

It matters not, COx can survive pissing off its few PvPers because its such a small segment for them due to being poorly implemented, ignored and then bludgeoned to death by someone who just doesnt get it.

CO and DCU will hurt COx bad, when a 5 year niche is about to be broken open and developers annoy any segment of the community, it doesnt bode well

drop your secondary attacks (keep KO blow, rage and jab as you cant get rid of that) and take flurry, kick, boxing and jump kick this will give you so much more damage its not even funny

its really....really sad but true....

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Okay I've got some problems now.

When I created this account, I didnt buy it retail but rather bought the key from NCsoft using a Visa as I can't find the game in any stores around my area. I then activated the account using the key. I'm not sure how to retrieve this key as it is in an old email I used (msn/hotmail) and that mail got wiped from inactivity.

I am unsure as to what to do now.. I tried going through customer support but it seems to be taking me in circles and didnt get a very good response. Staying in Asia I'm not exactly sure how to contact Ncsoft.


Yes, I was very foolish to simply give out my account name and passwords. However if you really must know my "friend" was very special to me and at that time we trusted alot in each other.

I am very grateful for the responses though. Account theft is really hard to take and all of your support is very appreciated.

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Just keep on at support, email and phone, retreive and offer to provide your old visa information, Im sure you can attain that from your bank if you lack the records, buying the code online probably stands more in your favour as is an additional paper trail. You should be fine.... eventually

you can change billing info and email contact but you cant change the name it was originally created with, also support should have the original creation email on file too. If you can find your original "welcome to playNC" email it will be a breeze to get it back.

Oh and search for any emails from plaync and see if you can find your unique account ID that you get when you got your "Game Account Activated!" email

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Let's get something really clear. The players in old pvp...the pre I-13 widow players, the 3 button click stalkers, the perma-doms with 4 accounts to buff their character and teleport them to safety...may have been successful, but that does NOT mean they were any good.

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LOL at this.

You do realize that widows only existed for like half a year (or even less) before I13 came out, right? Also, you do realize that stalkers are just as effective in zones as they were before I13, right? And lastly, you do realize that doms buffing themselves with 4 accounts is still possible, exactly like before I13, right?

Just checking. The questions are rhetorical, btw. You've already shown that you don't know the facts.

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174 days so just under 6 months, good guess

and its especially funny that hes using villain ATs as his examples of what was OP in "old PvP"

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...And for someone to even make a comment like adapt in move on probably wasn't successful in pvp until i13. Or just can't understand the difference, from lack of pvping. And yes it's a shame when things have gotten so bad that the old way seems good in comparison.

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Let's get something really clear. The players in old pvp...the pre I-13 widow players, the 3 button click stalkers, the perma-doms with 4 accounts to buff their character and teleport them to safety...may have been successful, but that does NOT mean they were any good. These are not the types of players that make good company on teams.

The players, like me, that love pvp, think all the complainers and whiners of old pvp are out to lunch. So, now that I've said my piece I'm going to RV and I'm going PWN me some stalkers...like I always do.

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lol a kheld with flurry can PWN some stalkers....like you always do...... l33tness......

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Maybe Castle got the idea for the pvp changes from the same select few "i got a pocket dev" buddies he entrusted the restructuring of dominators to.

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showflat....v=#Post13396958

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I think the changes to PvP stemmed from:
1. Survey that went out by ncsoft that had PvP on it?
2. Base raid play testing that 'wasn't fun' when the devs were testing some base raid changes (I would have suggested either bringing a Kinetic or asking whoever was playing the earth controller to stop putting quicksand in front of the raised door)
3. The extreme skill cap that PvP had. Lets face it, the players who practiced PvP were a whole lot better than the ones that didn't and thats not right! Now the training wheels are on and its like someone put saltpeter into the community's drink

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Lighthouse told us that the PvP changes were not for the PvP players, I take that to mean past, present or future given how small the PvP playerbase is in game and those who didnt PvP wouldnt be interested regardless of "rules"

I see the PvP zones simply as a live testbed for Castles bad ideas on how to "save" COx with CO and DCU coming up fast. I just wonder how many powersets we could have had with all the effort he went through to ruin PvP and turn it into a generic fistfight where primary melee attacks are not worth taking when you can get the ET beating wonder that is flurry

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You know things are bad when people think PvP in i12 was good

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What can you say? A Big Mac is better than a dog turd sandwich

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they actually put hard work and effort to destroy pvp.

as I recall- pvp was destroyed by abusive behavior from a majority of pvpers, which resulted in i13's re-balancing.

If one was to go back in time- the best method of prevention one might use... would be


manners.

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What Castle actually did was the impossible, he spent a lot of time and effort on something that both complicated and simplified PvP at the same time. It also became PvEvP as you had to "fight" against an invisible, intrusive, discriminating and unnatural feeling set of "laws" making your character totally different in pvp zones than it does anywhere else. Oh and it also means that catching any agro from NPCs is rediculously punative.

I played on freedom, land of the jerks and the PvP zones for the most part prior to i13 was competitive but largely @sshat free except for a few exceptions.

Its kind of irrelevant now, Castle suffers from dev arrogance, that is the firm beleif that he knows whats best for us and we just dont understand what "fun" is, SOE felt the same with SWG and decimated their playerbase, its a good job Castle lacked the balls/authority to push his "vision" onto the whole game and only decimated PvP. Actually scratch that, it would ahve been better for Castle to have tried to push his joke of a solution onto PvE too because then it would have been binned for all, now I beleive PvP is more than likely just the testbed for Castles game future, watch as it slowly slowly seeps into PvE.

Still it matters not, Champions Online is around the corner, I game I dont think I would even have tried if it wasnt for the retarded PvP design Castle gave us (Hi Im a kinetics defender, master of motion, watch as my inertial reduction....um supresses my own movement......) and then theres DCU next year which is looking to be a very nice spiritual sucessor to COH. Au revoir PvP I knew you well....