Are Scrappers going to get Elec/Elec


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Is it not time that Scrappers received Elec Melee and Elec Armour?


 

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Yes Elec melee would be cool to get. We have only had Powerset Proliferation once and the plan is to port every thing over that fits. So Scrapper should be Elec melee sometime just don't count on it to be anytime soon.

With Elec armour they are going to need to make some change it some. Elec armour as Conserve Power and that is in the Scrapper Epic pool. So I would assume that they would like to change that first and take away Conserve Power for Elec before they give it to Scrappers and Tanks, but I could be worng.


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Yes Elec melee would be cool to get. We have only had Powerset Proliferation once and the plan is to port every thing over that fits. So Scrapper should be Elec melee sometime just don't count on it to be anytime soon.

With Elec armour they are going to need to make some change it some. Elec armour as Conserve Power and that is in the Scrapper Epic pool. So I would assume that they would like to change that first and take away Conserve Power for Elec before they give it to Scrappers and Tanks, but I could be wrong.

[/ QUOTE ]I almost guarantee it. Same for Energy Aura, in fact. Probably give them an auto power or something like that.


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An auto power for Energy Aura and Electric Armor? How about Quick Recovery?


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An auto power for Energy Aura and Electric Armor? How about Quick Recovery?

[/ QUOTE ]Actually, it'd be in keeping with the theme of the dropped power.... I could actually see that, oddly enough.


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Electric Armor on a Scrapper (if ported as is) would be terrible. The biggest problem is the lower resistance cap compared to Brutes (75% vs 90%) for two reasons:

1) One of the hallmarks of the set is the sets capped energy resistance. This benefit would be completely diluted at 75%, forcing the Scrapper to take 2.5 times as much damage. Instead of being able to take ~13,380 pure energy damage (not counting regen) before dying (90% res), it would only take 5,352 pure energy damage to kill a Scrapper.

2) Power Surge would suck. For the same reason as above, a Scrapper would be taking 2.5 times as much damage as a Brute. Considering this is a power that Elec Brutes would lean on heavily (due to low mitigation outside of the set) it wouldn't be half as powerful on a Scrapper. Unlike Unstoppable, Elec Armor doesn't have DP (heal +maxhp) or defense (TH, Invin) to stack on top of it.

That's not even mentioning the fact Brutes have higher hp.

Yuck.


 

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An auto power for Energy Aura and Electric Armor? How about Quick Recovery?

[/ QUOTE ]Actually, it'd be in keeping with the theme of the dropped power.... I could actually see that, oddly enough.

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Thus the mentioning of it! You could rename the Electric Armor one to Charged and the Energy Aura one to Energetic. Eh? Ehhhhhh? Sounds like an awesome idea, right?


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An auto power for Energy Aura and Electric Armor? How about Quick Recovery?

[/ QUOTE ]Actually, it'd be in keeping with the theme of the dropped power.... I could actually see that, oddly enough.

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I'd prefer a passive version of Conserve Power at 1/3 to 1/4 strength.


 

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I want me some Elect/SD Scrappage.


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Electric Armor on a Scrapper (if ported as is) would be terrible. The biggest problem is the lower resistance cap compared to Brutes (75% vs 90%) for two reasons:

1) One of the hallmarks of the set is the sets capped energy resistance. This benefit would be completely diluted at 75%, forcing the Scrapper to take 2.5 times as much damage. Instead of being able to take ~13,380 pure energy damage (not counting regen) before dying (90% res), it would only take 5,352 pure energy damage to kill a Scrapper.

2) Power Surge would suck. For the same reason as above, a Scrapper would be taking 2.5 times as much damage as a Brute. Considering this is a power that Elec Brutes would lean on heavily (due to low mitigation outside of the set) it wouldn't be half as powerful on a Scrapper. Unlike Unstoppable, Elec Armor doesn't have DP (heal +maxhp) or defense (TH, Invin) to stack on top of it.

That's not even mentioning the fact Brutes have higher hp.

Yuck.

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and yet stalkers got it at least scrappers would have more benefit from it than them


 

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double telebooming on a scrapper would be awesome


 

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I want me some Elect/SD Scrappage.

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Electric Armor on a Scrapper (if ported as is) would be terrible. The biggest problem is the lower resistance cap compared to Brutes (75% vs 90%) for two reasons:

1) One of the hallmarks of the set is the sets capped energy resistance. This benefit would be completely diluted at 75%, forcing the Scrapper to take 2.5 times as much damage. Instead of being able to take ~13,380 pure energy damage (not counting regen) before dying (90% res), it would only take 5,352 pure energy damage to kill a Scrapper.

2) Power Surge would suck. For the same reason as above, a Scrapper would be taking 2.5 times as much damage as a Brute. Considering this is a power that Elec Brutes would lean on heavily (due to low mitigation outside of the set) it wouldn't be half as powerful on a Scrapper. Unlike Unstoppable, Elec Armor doesn't have DP (heal +maxhp) or defense (TH, Invin) to stack on top of it.

That's not even mentioning the fact Brutes have higher hp.

Yuck.

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and yet stalkers got it at least scrappers would have more benefit from it than them

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I would hate elec armor on a scrapper. At least the ave playstyle of a non def stalker is hit placate and get outta there. And stalkers have hide. Elec armor is like FA without healing flames, as far as protection goes. Most scrappers take pride in the fact that they can stand in the middle of a mob and "know" they are about the drop every last one of them. Try that with /elec vs non nrg attackers. You'll be laying next to that blaster that wasn't paying attention. You may even drop before the blaster. People complained about /DA. /DA has simple holes to fill that can be filled early on. With /elec, its power sync, tough and weave or a quicker death. Keep in mind that tough and weave aren't as strong on a scrapper as they are on brutes. I think /EA would be a better fit for scrappers then /elec. I'd luv to see some /EA, /SR, and /SD debates in the scrapper forums.


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Sarrate,

Your basically saying that a /Elec Stalker also sucks then?


 

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I think what they would do is block the power choice if you get it in one you cant get it in the other pool. They already done something similar with venom grenade that the Spiders get.


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Sarrate,

Your basically saying that a /Elec Stalker also sucks then?

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vallatabanan: Never played one, but I think they'd be far less than ideal, yes... probably more so than even Scrappers (less hp, lower hp cap, loss of Elec Field which kills their mitigation from end drain, and it's resist based instead of defense so it's harder to slip back into Hide). I'm no genius Stalker player or anything (~38 Elec/EA), but those are my thoughts.

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Keep in mind that tough and weave aren't as strong on a scrapper as they are on brutes.

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Rieze: Tough/Weave are just as strong on Scrappers as they are for Brutes. Both ATs have the same res/def mods.


 

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I must be thinking about tanks. I know one of them get more out of it.


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I must be thinking about tanks. I know one of them get more out of it.

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Yep, that would be Tanks.