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Quote:Yes really good advice hereOriginally Posted by Dechs Kaison
One of the most important things I can tell you is "Don't use the heal unless you're well under 50% health." Too many people panic as soon as the health bar stops being that vibrant green and may actually waste the heal. It's even more important for users of Dark Melee, who get a pretty regular heal in the attack chain.
Until your health hits 50%, you can't judge how fast you're losing it. A good Dark Regeneration happens at 25% health. I know I've managed to time it at 10% pretty regularly while I was leveling up, but that was on a tank. There's a little more room for error. -
Dark Consumption can be skipped if you like with miracles and Numia a lot easier to skip it. If you do do not slot it way up
Since you have Dark regeneration I would focus Siphon Life on acc, dam and rech and health last it will be used more as a top of power
If you run COF but do not want to use TOF it is not a big deal it is nice for taking out bosses in a fight some what but me I hate attacks that have no damage and the best mitigation is a dead mob. That is me but it can be effective.
I would also work on trying to get your s/l defense to 45% are close to it if you plan to invest IO's in the build
KB Hole was mentioned Dark regen slotted up is a sweet heal I have mines on my spines does 738 HP a target acc/heal IO's go well in that power -
Quote:Originally Posted by bAss_ackwards
I'd say if you need to save on power picks then take the AoE from Mu Mastery. If you don't, take Fireball from Blaze Mastery.
Bass hit the nail on the head
Yep Fireball if you don't want too spend two powers for it; go Ball of Lighting only need to take 1 power to get it -
Quote:I love the sweep combo it is the only combo I ever used on my DB/elec I started with the attack vitals combo but I hate Vengeful slice.Originally Posted by Eldorado
It's kind of cool, IF you don't mind being rooted for the 3.3 seconds that it takes to animate...and using those 3.3 seconds to crack jokes when you invariably miss...and when you miss, watching the martial artist on your team kick the boss what seems like sixteen times while you flail your arms around like a windmill....
On the other hand, if you're a willpower scrapper and your health bar is going downhill? Launching One Thousand Cuts en route to Sweep, and watching the incoming damage drop off while your health bar rebounds? I find that part TOTALLY cool!
1k Cuts 3.3 seconds is not that bad because it is so easy to get 3-5 mobs in that cone no worse than some of the other aoe attacks -
Quote:Yes I asked because it is expensive and I am not sure how much it will help it be better if you could have put it in Charge brawl but you can not so JL is an option. You could just add a extra damage proc so you have two damage procs in CB and JL so you have options that may help boost your damage enough.Originally Posted by SuperT
oh ok, thanks!
I'll have to give that a shot. At the moment I don't have jacob's ladder and was going with CB, havoc punch, CB, chain induction while throwing in thunder strike and lightning rod. Are you talking about the Fury of the Gladiator Res debuff? I can definitely move some stuff around and get hecatomb and armageddon in those attacks.
My energy and negative defense wont be soft capped any more (probably be around 35%) but I'll still have smashing, lethal, cold, and fire hovering around 45.5%. Plus, the extra recharge from those purple sets will definitely help my attacks, at well as build up, etc. come up a bit faster too. -
Quote:I was looking at my build today what chain are you using for elecOriginally Posted by SuperT
Well, I finally got my elec/invuln scrapper up to 50 and IO'd (the joy of having 2 accounts and being able to PL myself). I figured I'd go for my first test against an AV and, going in, my main concern was damage output. I chose to go against Marauder. I'm not sure if he is the best AV to test a build against but I always like fighting him b/c he just looks powerful and killing him is always satisfying...
Well, needless to say, having soft capped defense and very good S/L resistance, I was able to stand toe-to-toe with him no problem... but my concern of damage output or lack of became a reality. My electric attacks barely made a dent in him... I only have my elec attacks (I didn't take any epic pool attacks). I'm not sure what, if any, attack chains would work. I tried different combos but with lightning rod at a 30 second recharge and thunder strike feeling so slow animation wise I just don't see being able to take him out. Maybe damage alpha would help but it doesn't seem likely... I'll try another AV or two to see what kind of results I get.
Back in the early elec conversion Broken Prey came up with the best dps chain
Chain Induction/Charge Brawl/Jacob's Ladder/Charge Brawl (this gives you about 130-150 dps)
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showt...highlight=Elec
So if you go with this chain and two purple sets Hetacomb and adding a second proc in the attack and in JL going with Armageddon and adding the -res debuff proc or another dmg proc (on the 6th slot) would you get enough dps -
I used SM on my db/elec when i played him it works great if used properly it has a long animation kick it off when you are about to run into a large mob group or if you just used your heal and taking tons of damage heal kick SM start killing things gives you a boost for a short spurt to be able to whittle down the bad guys and give your heal time to recycle.
Worked great when I used it like I would mog on a regen -
I find the set lacking some what when I had it IO out to about 20% to everything it just did compare to /da or other sets. I enjoyed the ride alot on my db/ele I just found it not as robust end game. maybe I should go back and rebuild him with focusing on s/l defense as high as possible
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Quote:Yes in game it shows 62.56 at lvl 50 i have a second build with Mu so i could take ball of lighting on my fire/sdOriginally Posted by BrandX
Isn't the damage number for Mu Bolts wrong in Mids?
As far as I know the damage for all the single target attacks for Scrapper version of the Stalkers APP's are incorrect in MIDS -
Quote:Since I soloed a pylon fully saturated and cranked out 230dps with out breaking a sweat and that was not even my best build. I took at Infernal with my fire/sd and he has 50% fire resistance no insp no temps. I took out Nightstar, Chimeroa, Battle maiden, Marauder and several others I am not listing.Originally Posted by JeNeSaisQuoi
I know I'm going to be the lone dissenter on this one, but I'd go with Willpower personally. I have a Dark/Willpower Scrapper that I've been able to take down Pylons and AVs with and yet my Fire/Shield, while she was pretty awesome, didn't even come close to accomplishing alot of the things I have with my Dark/WP.
I just find the survivability of WP to be greater than that of Shield, personally. Of course, pairing WP with Dark Melee helps as well. To be honest though, it's more of a personal preference thing for me. Shield will always do more damage and thus generally probably be more survivable by the default of beating mobs down faster so that they have less time to put a hurt on you.
However, when it comes to say, walking away while surrounded by +4 mobs to grab a drink or whatever, I'd go with Willpower as being the set most likey to still have you standing around when you get back.
That's just been my personal experience though. I really didn't care for /Shield. I actually deleted it recently. It was more the animations than anything else though, I think.
Now it take a significant investment to get to the level and aidself makes a world of difference in the AV fighting realm. Heck my aidself usage has gone down since inherent stamina and health because I was able to get my regen rate into the 20's -
Well I started an elec/inv scrapper if I get to 50 and get my IO plan completed I try to solo the av and let you know
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Quote:Scrappers do not get Elec fences since we get the awful stalker partonsOriginally Posted by ClawsandEffect
But Ball Lightning + Electrifying Fences deals more than Fireball alone, and lets you slot a set of Posi's Blast for more recovery, accuracy, and recharge.
Don't know if that's worth it to you, but I'd rather take 2 powers I will actually use than take a throwaway power to get ONE power I will use.
None of my current scrappers are going to go villain for Patron Pools, but if I roll another one I may go that route. -
Quote:True but that was ancient times :]Originally Posted by Moonlighter
Back in the old days my travel power was perma-Elude.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Purus
Thanks for all your input.....I've wondered about dropping SJ but how does it affect getting around with just (guess I could try it!!!!! gawd im dumb). you've given me plenty to think about, I can get a bit blinded when I get an idea in my head. Fire Patron pool is the way forward as my scrapper is some kind of hellspawn so meshes nicely
I think I only have one toon left with a travel power spines/da and got it late just for adding a second KB IO so I never have had issues using just Ninja run + sprint
But back in the old days on my /sr i use to use swift + sprint + quickness for a travel power as well with no issues -
You could move slots around like this
Just a few things i added 5% global recharge also you should put the purple set to Fire Circle sword over shield charge. You will get more mileage out of the 33% chance to proc and save endurance you will use Fsc way more than SC you are maximizing the chance for fire proc and not hurting SC at all. IF you do not have to have Super Jump and just use sprint and ninja run you can add grant cover to get you some extra defense debuff resistance for those groups where it is handy left a slot in getting you extra resistance and end in deflection you could move it down to AD and slot another hami for more debuff resistance
I left melted armor with default slot like i said you can go Ball of lighting and free up a power slot
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I am at work so I can not look at everything but melt armor is a useless power the returns on it suck recharge is to long the debuff to small. you be better off going another direction. so if you are just taking something to get to fireball just use the default slot for Melt Armor
I will look at it when I get home you could also change side temporarily and go Ball of Lighting instead of fireball that way you only take 1 power to get to your aoe compared with the two required for Fireball
So something to think about I will look over it when I get home in more detail
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Quote:COF could use a minor tweak they over nerfed it when they gutted it during I5Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
Well, the last thing Dark Armor needs is another buff.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see it. It seems consistent for it to have some secondary effect. I just don't think I want the Devs taking too close of a look at Dark Armor.
Yes 95% base acc was to high the endurance consumption was even worse before the ED end reduction, Mag 3 stun and like 20% -tohit buff .
Yes once they got stacking armors at 28 you took COF and you became a walking troller with mez protection and better damage. Yes it was over powered at the time but it was short lived and not many knew about how good it was.
Mag 2 change I understood. the acc reduction was a little much with the endurance staying where it is and yes the to tohit debuff was ridiculous and is fine now. I really like them to up the acc to 75% or reduce the endurance some. don't care which one but either would help -
On Primaries katana and Broad Sword
Katana provides -defense then you add the Achilles heal proc in gamblers cut and get some -resistance and Broad sword equivalent attack
Dark Melee has -tohit
Claws and DB each have one attack that does -def and can also has the -res proc possibility in those attacks
Kinetic has -dmg
Martial arts has one attack with a -fly -spd and -def in one attack no -resistance proc allowed
Spines -spd -recharge
Elec -end
Secondaries
DA = COF -tohit
Elec = -end Damage aura and Power sink
Shield = -dmg in AAO
WP = -tohit in RTTC -
Quote:yes lots of set bonuses, I use COF because I was able to get 3.75% s/l defense and yes the -tohit seems to help. I done this on purpose I round up all minions and LT's stood in the middle with armors turned on , cof and my two damage auras went afk and came back to everything dead.Originally Posted by Cambios
I assume that's with a lot of set bonuses and such. I'd love to see that if you can PM me the MIDS info on the build.
Do you use Cloak of Fear? Does the fear actually do much? Is the -tohit noticeable?
What about defense to other damage types? I find that once you have 50% s/l resist and 20% s/l defense, you already have nothing to fear from s/l. Then its just all the other dmg types you have to worry about.
Cof is weird minions cower start to attack cower attack miss a lot some times they run a short distance then run back in and cower so the mitigation works great on minions. It is just different and kind weird. -
I been debating and elec/fire build for 3 months with myself and been back and forth on if I want to level one it looks fun
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Quote:I will post it here it also got a ton better when I got the alpha slot and the extra endurance reducer in the build from the alphaOriginally Posted by Cambios
I assume that's with a lot of set bonuses and such. I'd love to see that if you can PM me the MIDS info on the build.
Do you use Cloak of Fear? Does the fear actually do much? Is the -tohit noticeable?
What about defense to other damage types? I find that once you have 50% s/l resist and 20% s/l defense, you already have nothing to fear from s/l. Then its just all the other dmg types you have to worry about.
What you find with most attacks in the game they have either a smash or lethal component to it not all but a large % so you get the highest defense to which ever one you have so over all he plays a lot better
My st attack chain is lunge >ripper >lunge > Throw spines not the best one but it got me about where I wanted to be with the recharge I have. I taken out several EB's with ease and have not had problems in groups with AV's so it has been good enough
Yes I skipped Impale and no i do not miss it with that long softball wind up I skipped it to get the numbers I wanted
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Quote:My spines/da is sitting at about 42% s/l defense if i remember correctlyOriginally Posted by Cambios
I am not trying to get in too much of a CoF vs. OG debate, since that has been hashed out many times here. Though I understand that in any discussion of CoF, the comparison in usefulness to OG is always going to be out there just because that's basically how the dark armor set breaks down.
I've used OG for many years now, and for the most part I like it, but it really bugs me that I have to pay health to run it (that just seems unfair/negatively balanced) and the stagger effect of disoriented mobs is just annoying - not a huge problem, but annoying.
So in my rebuild of my spines/da scrapper, I'm trying to work in a lot more defense. If I can get maneuvers AND weave, that would be ideal, but I at least want one of them. This will get my defense in the 15-20% range, which puts it high enough that an additional -tohit debuff would make a difference I think.
Is it confirmed that damage doesn't truly break fear, it just lets them get 1 attack per 5 seconds? If so, then it means CoF is always providing a significant benefit from the fear, even if your damage auras are "breaking" it?
What if you have two damage auras - e.g. death shroud AND quills. Do they get 2 attacks per 5 seconds?
I understand that CoF is a slot hog, and that's a pain. Given that, I still might end up sticking with OG. But I'd like to get an idea of how much mitigation I am actually going to get out of CoF. If it is significant, I'd seriously like to consider it. -
The only reason I have slotted -tohit over fear powers is for better set bonuses in the -tohit
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Quote:I find AE farming for tickets is the way to go for alot the common yellows that are in the 30mill-40 million right now I do random bronze roles and sometimes I get orangesOriginally Posted by Nihilii
I find the hardest thing about budget building is that people value the only real currency (time) very differently based on their gaming habits. Some will have no problem planning over months - lowballing market bids, using A-merits to get some pricy uniques and AE tickets for rare salvage. Some will want to get a build done within a week - buy it now prices. The difference between the two can sometimes be measured in billions even on "budget" builds.
i was able to overhaul 90% of my Spines/da in two days farming AE for tickets made influence kept the recipes I wanted sold what sold in Went's and sold the rest to the vendor -
You also left out knock back protection something DA does not have I go a different route
Could try this I have more global recharge I have less energy defense but Dark regeneration is a heavy endurance drain so I added end and HP one target will give you about 700+ hp Heal
I find flashing steel not as important since you have Death Shroud. You could just play around with it and go from there but do not forget your KB hole
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