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Quote:Actually, with respect to mitigating the value of IO-ed softcap builds, it's a very reasonable suggestion. Most defense-oriented powersets get a considerable amount of defense resistance, but +def set bonuses give none. An SR Scrapper or Brute could shrug off most of the added debuffs, but a softcapped Blaster wouldn't be particularly survivable in the face of cascading defense failure.Originally Posted by NeverDark
That is, without question, the worst suggestion in the history of mankind. -
I teleport to the roof with one jump all the time.
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Quote:Eh? Pretty much by definition, someone selling an item to a black market doesn't care who receives the item later.Originally Posted by ShoeTattoo
A lot of black market customers wouldn't like their market freely selling to heroes, either.
And then escapes all long-lasting consequences.Quote:Originally Posted by ShoeTattoo
Crey gets found out.
None of those are analogous in any fashion to any argument presented here.Quote:Originally Posted by ShoeTattoo
Here are a few analogous examples of that kind of reasoning:
Example 1: I just drove down the street. That means I can drive around the world, or to the planet Pluto.
Example 2: I just learned how to add 2 and 2 together. I can learn quantum mechanics in the same amount of time.
Example 3: I spent my year bundling up and selling mortgages, many of which were given to families with questionable credit. I got a large bonus at the end of the year, property prices are rising, and the banking sector is raking in strong profits. What I'm doing must be good for the economy as a whole, over the long run.
Perhaps CG should mention that the villains participate in a black market, or that the heroes are using a consignment house, and thus have absolutely no idea who gets their product?Quote:Originally Posted by ShoeTattoo
CG: So, I play this game called City of Heroes / Villains. They just finished merging the villain-side and hero-side markets for in-game items.
AJ: What's an “in-game item” and what kind of markets are you talking about?
CG: In-game items make our characters much more effective in battle. Think of things like armor, better weapons, more powerful spells, and the like. As for the markets, they are where heroes and villains buy and sell the in-game items that they find while being heroic and villainous.
AJ: So, what you're saying is that the game was recently changed so that heroes freely sell powerful items to villains, and villains to heroes. Don't heroes and villains tend to, like, not get along very well? I know its a game and all, but how could both sides be OK with that?
CG: Well, heroes don't actually mind doing that, and neither do villains.
AJ: I'm trying to picture Superman or Batman knowingly selling items to villains that make villains more powerful. That doesn't seem likely and anybody who does that doesn't seem very heroic to me. I'm also trying to picture Lex Luthor selling items that would make Superman stronger against Kryptonite, and that doesn't seem likely to me either. I'm not seeing the whole “willingly goes along with that” idea. In fact, that line of reasoning seems pretty ludicrous.
CG: Well, if that doesn't work for you, then how about I propose that every hero in the world is cast under a spell for all eternity so that they don't know what is happening. Any villain who might object also has their ability to perceive the truth altered.
AJ: If somebody is powerful enough to pull the wool over the eyes of every hero and villain in the world, why would they settle for running a market? Why wouldn't they dispose of all the weaklings who they can so easily deceive and just run the world?
CG: Well, I don't have a good reply to that. Perhaps the people who run the merged markets are really good at keeping the merger secret?
AJ: So, essentially every hero and villain in the world will remain unaware of the reality of merged markets, over the long run? Do you have any ESP-types of heroes or villains? Don't some of them have extraordinary senses? How could the kind of large-scale distribution system that would be needed be set up and run in secret? And how could it be that nobody would ever figure out that an item was originally stolen, or originally used by the in-game equivalent of Batman?
CG: You raise some good points. But, somehow they manage to keep it all secret or everybody who finds out the truth is somehow OK with merged markets. Say, how about you join me in-game sometime. They have free trial accounts ...
AJ: So, you're saying I can play a hero who willingly sells powerful items to evil types or who's too thick-headed to realize he's doing that. Yeah, that sounds really ... engaging and immersive.
The hero has no idea if he's buying illegal goods: he's just buying an item from a consignment house.Quote:Originally Posted by BrandX
Why would WW buy illegal goods? Or why would your hero be buying illegal goods?
Wentworth's would buy illegal goods if Wentworth's wasn't on the level, or they were getting substantial profit out of it, or if they buckled under threat of violence.
You don't seem to understand the economics of the market present in this game.Quote:Originally Posted by BrandX
Second, it won't do anything for villains. Because heroes will always have more players and therefore more influence to spend vs villains infamy.
This merging of the markets won't do anything for anyone on the recipe's being available front either.
Why? Because everyone wants the same recipes.
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The only argument against a market merge which I would consider valid would be "I prefer a more volatile market". Because it's true. The two markets are more volatile separate than if they were merged. Volatile doesn't necessarily mean bad; it means there's more opportunity for both gain and for loss. The most common player with this attitude would be an ebil marketeer, because they know how to play a volatile market for maximum profit.
The official argument against a market merge is that Heroes have more inf than Villains. That argument is utter ****. The only way those inf levels are going to balance in any reasonable time frame is with a merged market, which Positron doesn't want to do until the levels are balanced. -
Quote:Then why do we dump so much **** on it?Originally Posted by bAss_ackwards
The Internet is not a dump truck!
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Hmm... I know there are several people on the forums with well over a hundred characters. Getting a full list might take a while
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Oh, come on. Regex isn't that hard!
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Quote:I'm willing to bet it's not waiting 5 minutes for a single connection, but rather trying several times on your behalf.Originally Posted by Leandro
five whole minutes waiting for the server to reply? Why in the heck would it need to wait more than 30 seconds to know the server is not going to answer?
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Quote:It's simply a matter of proper regular expression matching.Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
For text formatting and inserting images sure.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Wicked_Wendy
STRANGE VILLAINS... On COV I hooked up with a team in my early 20s and we did a door mission. Stepped inside and found ourselves staring and 40+ Villains. Okay mission is bugged it happens but these were like nothing I had ever seem before, or ever again, anywhere in the game. Actually hard to even describe they were sort of a cross between a Dark Nova from the Warshade powerset and a Coralax but with really long tentacles and they were just floating there inside the room. As we turned to leave someone must have gotten too close and aggroed and the whole team got one shotted by a strange electrical attack like lightning that was tinted blue.. just like the creatures themselves. not sure if it was some experimental villain the Devs were trying out that managed to escape via bug into our mission or just a horrible bugged mutations of several established beings but they definately qualified for a WFT? Team leader sent a bug report and we moved on so I have no idea what the explanation was but it was a very unual day in Sharkhead.Yes, definitely sounds like the Lanaruu faction of Storm Elementals: Squall Elemental, Tempest Elemental, and Cyclone Elemental. They look like this:Quote:Originally Posted by SirFrederick
Wicked Wendy: The monsters in your second story sound like Storm Elementals. They only appear redside in a few end-game arcs... but if I recall correctly, it is a known bug that they appear in missions they shouldn't. Don't remember the whys and wherefores - anyone?
They don't "only appear redside in a few end-game arcs"; there are one or two CoV arcs which contain Lanaruu, but you can find them 'in the wild', as it were, in The Storm Palace, part of the Shadow Shard. -
Quote:My Radiation Defender is a member of Faithful Fans of Fallout. I don't have Radiant Aura; Vengeance is my healOriginally Posted by Psylenz
I have a radiation defender, he has fallout but not mutation. Ha ha. When they ask me when I am going to heal them, I tell them to hold still and I will hit fallout again.
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As soon as you activate SD, it's going to go off (and you're going to die without debt) no matter what. Even if you activate it when you have 1.67 HP left and you're in the middle of a pitched battle, it's still going to go off, and you're still going to be without debt.
So if you're going to die anyways, why not use SD? (unless you're trying to get debt badges, that is) -
Quote:So that IOed characters don't significantly outshine teammates when exemplared to the point that the teammates feel useless.Originally Posted by alexus_NA
Why are set bonuses eliminated when you exemplar down 3 levels, to begin with?
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Quote:Okay, now I'm genuinely curious. Who the heck doesn't want Focused Fighting? O.oOriginally Posted by Pyroguy
My sr/claw scrapper, does not need/ use the T1 secondary
Even if you've achieved ~22% melee defense with set bonuses, that's 22% of set bonuses you wouldn't need to get with Focused Fighting, not to mention the Confuse protection you'd miss out on (admittedly, not a big issue in CoV and less of an issue in CoH). But most importantly, you'd lose out on more than 1/5th of your Defense Debuff resistance. -
Today, flying around Talos Island:
[NPC] Slasher: The Circle of Thorns will not lose!
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[NPC] Warrior Slammer: You are insignificant before the Circle of Thorns.
These Warriors seem to be finally realizing that their faction sucks and never wins at anything
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Quote:Obviously, Wentworth's is not the shining pillaar of righteousness it appears to be. Points:Originally Posted by ShoeTattoo
That isn't an RP argument. Its an effort to suggest that the ability to steal a truck or two full of gear is equivalent to a full and complete merger of two markets that function more like stock markets or Christie's auctions. It also doesn't explain how villain goods end up on hero markets.
Another thing the ability to steal a truck or two fails to explain is how characters on both sides would be able to access *everything* put on sale on either side of the hero/villain divide, on a regular and ongoing basis.- Crey Industries is totally a technological innovator with aims to improve the lives of Paragon's citizens, right?
- There is a Black Market truck behind the Talos Island Wentworth's
- Would you trust this guy?
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Quote:I'm expecting the side switching process to be one or more story arcs which you can do at any level and can repeat as many times as you like. That's my only expectation for lv20-45 GR content.Originally Posted by Psyte
I"m expecting a whole new starting experience in Praetoria, and that there will be the ability to gradually change sides so I'm expecting GR content for the whole spectrum of levels (although not necessarily in Praetoria).
If you're expecting GR to have the same amount of content as CoV, I'm expecting you to be disappointed.Quote:Originally Posted by Golden Girl
I'm expecting it to have about the same amount of content - but not the same type of content
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Consider the amount of time going into GR (a year, maybe a year and a half), along with the scope of the things being included (especially Ultra Mode, while not part of GR, is being developed in parallel), and the fact that GR is only an expansion, not a new game nor an "expanshalone" like CoV was. It's extremely unlikely that Praetoria will have 1-50 content, or even 1-40 content.
On the other hand, given time in the future, I wouldn't be surprised if the content in Praetoria is expanded past 1-20. -
Considering that I, along with many other players (and probably even including you) already paid "$19.99 for a Permatemp Power 'Go to mission'" with a 2 hr recharge, I don't see it happening.
Also, if you've got 2 builds, Mission Transporter only has a 15 min recharge. -
Quote:With HTML, yes. But if a new BBCode is defined, the same safeguards which prevent [quote] from screwing things up would prevent thet able from doing the same. Trust me, I have experience extending the set of BBCodes available on a forumOriginally Posted by Snow Globe
Normally, yes, but not with tables or divs... Trust me, I have first hand experience with these forums and HTML.
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Quote:Actually, we've been told that characters who start in Praetoria are forced to choose between Hero and Villain (or at least, Vigilante and Rogue) by lv20. The side-switching arcs will probably be playable at all levels, and there may be some 45-50 content, but Praetoria is basically just 1-20.Originally Posted by Perfect_Pain
This is what I know about the whole 1 to 20 thing...
Thats all they have said.
That does not mean that is all there is. I think, it will be alot more than that. I think it will be more like CoV... where we got an entire game. (not saying it will be that much, but I think it will be more like that) -
Quote:You're a furry? That explains the hedgehog avatarOriginally Posted by Miss Chief
One of those 'Furriners' you keep hearing about.
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JLove does have a special thread for costume suggestions, and that's the only place on the forum he looks for costume suggestions.
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Quote:Not to mention the Black Market Truck behind the Talos WW's.Originally Posted by EvilGeko
See how that works? The RP argument against merging the market is utter BS.
No good citizen of the Empire is in want! Please visit your friendly neighborhood Seer for mental cleansing.Quote:Originally Posted by The_Alt_oholic
I think that GR's dimension should have it's own markets and currency.
THE HEROES DON'T KNOW.Quote:Originally Posted by The_Alt_oholic
I understand why the villain side wants to have access to the goods in WW, but why would the hero want the tainted goods of the black market?
Mr. Super Guy: Here, representative of Wentworth's Fine Consignments! I would like you to sell my piece of cybernetics equipment for me! *flies away*
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Doctor McEvil: Hey, Shady Mac, you got any cybernetics for me? *purchases cybernetics equipment from Shady Mac*
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Mr Super Guy: Thank you for selling my cybernetics! I'm glad I could make the world a better place today!
Too late. Influence and Infamy have been the same thing since I6 (as far as the game is concerned), and they've meant currency since I9 (you can't really argue anymore that inf is not some form of tangible currency; or rather, you can't argue it and win)Quote:Originally Posted by The_Alt_oholic
Influence and infamy are meant to be two diametrically opposing characteristics. I don't understand why the two should be merged into something that only means currency. -
Travel at level 1:
Peacebringers (unlocked with a lv50 Hero) get Fly at level 1.
Warshades (unlocked with a lv50 Hero) get Teleport at level 1.
Heroes may purchase the Raptor Pack temporary power for 10,000 influence in the Shadow Shard (Accessible from Peregrine Island).
Villains may purchase the Raptor Pack temporary power for 10,000 infamy in Grandville (Accessible from the Rogue Isles Ferry in most CoV zones).
Purchase of a 30-day Mini-Booster will give all characters a flight jetpack for 30days (real time)
Travel at 4:
Super Booster IV: Martial Arts gives Ninja Run (slightly weaker than Super Speed + Super Jump) to all level 4+ characters on your account.
Travel at 5:
Heroes can run 3 Police Band missions in King's Row, and then the Atlas Park Safeguard mission. Completion of the Atlas Park Safeguard mission (if you've trained to lv5) grants the Raptor Pack temporary power, which grants 2 hours of flight.
Villains can run 3 Newspaper missions in Port Oakes, and then the Atlas Park Mayhem mission. Completion of the Atlas Park Mayhem mission (if you've trained to lv5) grants the Raptor Pack temporary power, which grants 2 hours of flight.
Travel at 6:
60 month veterans get the City Traveler badge, which allows any of their character to select Fly, Teleport, Super Jump, and Super Speed at level 6 without any prerequisites.
Travel at 10:
Heroes can run 3 Police Band missions in King's Row, Steel Canyon, or Skyway City, and then the King's Row Safeguard mission. Completion of the King's Row Safeguard mission (if you've trained to lv10) grants the Zero-G Pack temporary power, which grants 2 hours of jump.
Villains can run 3 Newspaper missions in Port Oakes or Cap Au Diable, and then the King's Row Mayhem mission. Completion of the King's Row Mayhem mission (if you've trained to lv10) grants the Zero-G Pack temporary power, which grants 2 hours of jump.
Edit - There are also a few other ways of getting around which aren't exactly travel powers:
Pocket D VIP Pass (purchase the Good vs. Evil edition of the game, or the Good vs. Evil edition goodies pack) will teleport you to Pocket D, which as access points in Kings Row, Faultline, Talos Island, and Founders' Falls (Heroes), and Port Oakes, Sharkhead Isle, St. Martial (Villains)
Mission Teleport (purchase the Mac Special Edition of the game) will teleport you to your currently active mission (or the first mission in your mission list if none is active)
Super Group bases can have teleporters to almost every zone in the game. The Devoted Badge (24 month veteran) grants a Base Teleport power.
Consignement House Teleporter and Black Market Teleporter are available at Wentworth's and the Black Market (respectively) for 10,000 inf, and will teleport you to any Wentworth's/Black Market.
Logging out near a Wentworth's or a Black Market will give you a market teleporter similar to the one which can be purchased.
Logging out in the Shadow Shard or Grandville will give you a flight temporary power, with a duration dependant on the amount of time you were logged out.
Logging out near a base portal after obtaining the Monitor Duty badge (log out near a base portal for 21 days) will grant you a base teleporter temporary power.
Logging out in the Shadow Shard or a train station after earning the Communter badge (log out near a train station for 21 days) and the Dimensional Explorer badge (log out in the Shadow Shard for 21 days) will earn you a flight temporary power.
Logging out in Grandville or near an Arachnos Helicopter after earning the Arachnos Official badge (log out in Grandville for 21 days) and the Pilot badge (log out near an Arachnos helicopter for 21 days) will earn you a flight temporary power. -
Quote:The angels? Or the Rouge Angle Satin?Originally Posted by Golden Girl
The side of the angels