Dechs Kaison

I can't think of a more accurate way to measure the difficulty of a task than to look at the median time to completion.

Because at the end of it all, they still completed the same task.

Allow me to make my position perfectly clear:

I feel merits are awarded for the task. "You stopped Vandal. Hooray!" Whether you did it in 20 minutes or 20 days, the end result is the same.

XP, inf, drops are all rewards of defeating enemies. Since these 'optional objectives' have their own rewards, skipping them already incurs a penalty.

The people who are efficient at saving the day should not be penalized for this. They've already penalized themselves by not receiving the other rewards.

All defender teams that tear through the game at blinding pace should not be penalized either. They're better at this game than we are. Typically, the people better at a sport end up winning the trophy.

This.

This not so much. Shield defense is a cause, I guess, but it grants a far broader spectrum of player creativity.

Anything as restrictive as Reptile Armor is just a terrible idea.

Couldn't watch it until now, but that's ok, Clouded pretty much said what I would have.

I survived solely on the merits of dark armor and IOs, whereas you leveraged shields, IOs, and leaned on your attacks as a crutch. Not only did shields receive the heal, but I saw your endurance bottoming out pretty damn fast. Without dark consumption, you'd have eaten dirt.

That said, it was still awesome.

I think I need to reiterate what the point of my thread was, and what it wasn't. I was never here to say "Look how awesome Dark Armor is" or "Look how awesome I can play."

Someone told me "Dark Armor sucks. It can't tank anything." This is my response.

This is your problem. My warshade (with eclipse) did better the more enemies I had to fight. At around x6 I was happy, but x8 seemed to make it even easier.

"Must find more bodies..."

Even betterer: Craft until your eyes bleed.

So very much this.

My warshade feels like a flying nuclear battleship with a side of steriods and heaps awesomesauce. Nova form with 85% resist to everything.

Now, if you're talking about the difference between dwarf form and eclipse'd dwarf form, there's not too much of a difference there, especially if there's a tank or a 'fender on the team.

But running solo? There's nothing better than being a squiddy ball of invincible doom with fluffy balls of extra doom floating behind you.

Edit to add something on topic: I have a human only peacebringer which fairs very well. I have the slots to fill out the human attacks so it allows me to leverage lightform more effectively since I don't rely on the form shifts that it locks me out of.

But it'll be a cold day in hell before I take nova and dwarf out of my 'shade.

I do.

Let's see it done with +4/x8 carnies and malta without inspirations like I did.

That takes inspirations.

Again, if it's so easy, let's see you do it.

I think you're missing the point. He's saying that brutes are supposed to be all RAH RAH SMASH, and super reflexes doesn't "fit the theme" so to speak.

Also, MMs were not originally the villain side tank because they didn't have bodyguard mode at launch.

I honestly have to see this. What server are you on?

I'm sorry about the confusion. When I said "I have included bosses" I meant that I've done it. I didn't video it because it takes too long to kill them. Malta Gunslingers and Zeus Titans? I can handle them. Dark Ring Mistresses and Master Illusionists force me into a stalemate because I can't kill as quickly as they heal.

Each of those clips was just the first group I walked into when set for +4/x8, no bosses. I have the rest of the carnie clip in raw footage, but again, it takes a while and I only had time to finish one fight, so I chose Malta. If you saw it in that video, aside from the monsters, I killed it.

I did leave my insp tray up to show I never used a single one. Those troublesome bosses with huge defense debuffs become trivial once you gobble a purple to stay above.

I'd still like to see you do the same.

As for "the benchmark," I'd say it should be main tanking for an MoSTF without teammate buffs. If you can do that, you're a hell of a tank.

IOs really don't help these as much as they do other ATs. In general, set bonuses only help the MM, not his pets.

I'd like to put forth a vote for warshades and peacebringers. As they are slot starved, sets really help them get the most from their builds.

The whole fight's in there, it keeps cutting back and forth. And it is set for +4/x8.

I have included bosses, but they take too damn long to kill. I have an RWZ challenge (lvl 54 Rikti group with at least three bosses, dragged to a pylon and killed to the last) video that's too long for YouTube because tanker damage is just so low.

EDIT: I would love to see responses posted. What's the potential of some other builds? Show me a willpower tanker that can solo +4/x8 Malta and Carnies. Hell, I'd love to see a stoner that could do it. I bet if anyone, he'd have the hardest time.

Especially since you posted how easy it is for an IO'd tanker, show us yours.

If I were you, I'd take the fastest recharging one to stack the most -res on one tough target.

This is especially true when comparing AAO to something like Death Shroud.

One requires a to-hit check. The other is surprisingly effective at pissing mobs off.

I would love to see it. I like seeing people do awesome things with their characters. One of the reasons I like this game so much is because of the convention breaking manner in which we're able to accomplish things.

Thank you.

Yeah, that is a good point. Not only is the negative energy resistance below the cap, but the psi resistance is actually higher.

If you'll notice though, the resistance comes in chunks. S/L/F/C all get the same resistance values. Half of the negative comes with the S/L shield, and the other half comes with the F/C shield. Energy is exactly half of the negative energy. Perhaps they could throw "another half" into the psi/status shield. That would be enough to cap resistance to negative after slotting.

Of course, there's nothing I'd be willing to trade for that benefit.

Indeed.

Dark Armor has capped (86.5%) resistance to end drain. Sappers hit me and my end bar doesn't flinch.

Comparatively, my psionic resist is 81%. Psionic attacks hit me and my health bar doesn't flinch.

My energy resistance is 31%. Energy attacks hurt so badly that I worked the build to cap defense to E/N just to protect myself.

So, comparatively, 25% end drain resist may be better than nothing, but it's still going to hurt.

I'd still suggest it. Right after your demon summoner.

That's not an opinion. It is hard demonstratable fact.

A team of eight controllers can and has succeed at the MoSTF. Therefore a tank is not required.

A team of eight defenders can and has succeeded at the MoSTF. Therefore control is not required.

A team of eight blasters can and has succeed at the MoSTF. Therefore buffing and debuffing is not required.

The only thing required to advance in this game, as Aett pointed out, is damage.

If you cannot contribute to the required portion of the team, you will be replaced.

Gah, my humblest apologies Adeon. I know you were there. I think the rad/ defender wasn't, and I'm missremembering.

Just played it for a bit this moring, and yes, it is the new Thugs.