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Originally Posted by SwellGuy

Apart from Purple and PvP recipes everything is available at the merit "stores".

The devs have stated they didn't give those merit costs because it would be too high.

So if you think about the merits/hour rates the devs have stated and how much influence/infamy a level 50 character can generate there is actually a base inf cost compared to merits.

The variance in prices you see beyond that would be addressed by demand on those drops.

Originally Posted by SwellGuy

I certainly am looking forward to checking out the Praetorian zones but people who don't have GR won't be able to get there so if GR is a ticket out of the red side for some then it will be even worse for those unable to get out.

A lot depends on whether there is some huge demand to get hero ATs doing villain missions and just how far the vigilantes are willing to go. I've seen far too many threads by heroes only players to think many of them want to "sully" themselves with villain content but there was that population jump redside when VEATs hit so who knows I may be wrong and they may flock red.

Originally Posted by SwellGuy

I am more concerned they will make things worse.

Dev actions in the past few years regarding the market and market complaints:
Increased drop rates of costume recipes.
Added Merits
Added MA tickets which when MA was in heavy use took a toll on the markets
Changed PvP recipe drops making them even more rare (the only thing that spiked prices)
Altered the 60 days inactivity rule to being only against inactive accounts

Am I missing any other things they did that affected markets and prices?

Originally Posted by SwellGuy

But then they might as well add everything into NPC stores. It would take far less work and be no risk of bugs or player manipulation causing dips or spikes.

Originally Posted by Snow Globe

The start will be 1 Incarnate level, the 2nd wave will be 9 more Incarnate levels. You say that I don't have faith in the developers. Yes, I don't believe that they would be so overpowered that the rest of the game needs to be redesigned. It will be an improvement. However, like Purple and PVP IOs, I would say that having a character fully "Incarnated" wouldn't break the game.

Originally Posted by Golden Girl

Unless we start seeing AVs and other enemies with "level 60" beside their names, then this isn't a levl cap raise

What I think they might be going to do is to eventually give us 50 Incarnate levels - so the system would allow you to sort of double up on your levels - like once you hit 50, you can access the new endgame system and then go over your whole build with another 1-50 of incarnate levels.

Originally Posted by Radmind

I'm with Snow Globe, the Devs are more than smart enough to not break the game with Incarnates. For me it will be the Journey to get my Incarnate lvls that I will enjoy rather than the rewards. (Depends on what the rewards are...)

Originally Posted by Dr_Mechano

You clearly missed the part that said "Once I've completed all the quest chains for that area, the keep is now a safe haven and a staging point to launching the attack to the next area. However someone who has just come into the area and not completed any of the quests still sees it as a warzone."

So while yes, I have completed the RWZ storyline and thus the RWZ looks different to ME, it's a personal thing, only those that have completed the LGTF will see that version, however for everyone else the warzone is still it's normal old self, once THEY complete the LGTF then it changes for them as well.

It's not a one time only thing, that once it's done, nobody can ever do it again, instead the warzone is 'phased' there are two phases 'warzone version' and 'LGTF completed version' people who haven't done the LGTF see the warzone version while those that have see the LGTF complete version.

The quests WoW uses this on are the 'big cinematic quests' heck the first quest to introduce it has it's own cinematic once you complete it.

HOWEVER the fly in the ointment is that WoW quests are not repeatable whereas the LGTF IS...so I'm not sure how that would work.

Originally Posted by CapnGeist

Increase drop rate, as I said, is a temporary solution. It creates a surge of supply and drops prices, but doesn't actually stop inflation.

Merged markets... I don't see how that will stop inflation either. Blueside has inflation. Redside has inflation. Why would a merged market not have inflation?

More inf sinks, yes, that's what we need to do. It needs to be stuff people want to spend inf on for mechanical benefit, but where the money leaves the system. Like IOs bought from vendors.

What do costume change codes have to do with inflation?

And yes, lowering inf generation of 50s would help.

Originally Posted by Wicked_Wendy

I don't really see a need to make these available for trade. You claim you have low levels with 600 merits .. 1) the exchange rate for merit to Tier 3 Inspirations is 1 to 1 and I have 2 SG bases with 8 inspiration collectors all completely filled with 100 each of every type available. Below 20 level when End sucks having a constant supply of tier 3 End enhancers can really help out a low level character. Yes they are random drops BUT you can combine 3 of anything to make whatever you are short on. 2) the exchage rate on merits to enhancements is 8 to 1 even at level 50 so this can be an outstanding way to DO and SO your character before you start looking at IOs and the savings will help that character down the line when he or she wants to start crafting/buying IOs. 3) as mentions take your chances and just buy rare salvage then sell it at the market. Again this will add influence you can use later on when you want to start enhancing with IOs.

Tickets are pretty much the same story although the cost to buy enhancements fluctuates as you get higher in level. One really nice aspect of turning tickets into salvage and then into influence or Infamy is you can actually PICK what you purchace not roll the dice and hope. I have gone to Wentworths found out what was selling the best and then headed to AE and bought those exact piece of salvage .. adding millions to a characters available funds.

I generally don't start to IO an character much until the late 30s. A 40 level IO enhancement is better than a 50 level SO so by 37 I will start adding as I find the necessary recipes and salvage.

I think it's great that soon we will be able to email influence, recipes and salvage.. hey I have high level characters that get a recipe they can't use in their build. Now I can email it to one that can and even email any salavge needed that the character getting said recipe is short on. That in itself is a giant step forward I really don't see a need to add Merits and Tickets to the mix.. plenty of things any character can use them for so why start moving them around?


Oh I'm also curious what you coinsider a "low level character" and depending on the anser just how you managed 600 or more merits on one.

Positron TF 10-Up 66 Merits
Synapse TF 15-Up 58 Merits
Sister Psyche TF 20-Up 50 Merits
Moonfire TF 23-Up 32 merits
Citadel TF 25-Up 40 Merits
Hess TF 25-Up 19 Merits
Manticore TF 30 -Up 32 Merits
Numina TF 35 -Up 36 merits
First Respec trial 24 -Up 27 Merits
Second Respec trial 34-Up 20 Merits
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TOTAL 380 Merits

Even adding in the cave of Trancendance Trial (8 Merits), Katy Hannon TT (9 Merits) and The Eden Trial (7 Merits) along with completing the Midnighter Club Arc(8 Merits) so you have access to the ITF at level 35.. that only comes to 404 Merits and since you can't do the Eden Trial untl level 39 we are talking a 40 level character at best having 400 or so Merits. So at best say a 20 level character might have 150 or so Merits available since all of the rest of that listed is too high for them to join. I personally consider characters between 1- 20 as lower level - few powers yet, low on end, stilll working toward a travel power till 14, etc. Mid-levels are 21-40 (even that may be off since a 40 level is pretty HIGH IMO) but now they are coming into their own - more attacks, better defense, nore HP, etc. And finally high level from 40 and up. But as I have shown above even if you think of anything below 40 a "LOW LEVEL character" the best they could possible have is around 400 merits not 600. LOL

Originally Posted by Slashman

I'm actually rather tired of people using the 'superhero niche' argument to defend COX. If you make a good game and market it well, the niche hardly matters.

EVE Online is about as niche as you can get. It's a small niche, within a niche. It has more than 3 times our numbers and it started with about 19k players. That wasn't an accident. Nor did it happen because CCP had a huge fanbase before the game was even launched. They took a game that was bug filled and messy at launch, and with no publisher, brought it far past what COX has ever achieved. That should be a smack in the face to us.

COX has spent far too much time hiding behind customization and instanced missions and not enough expanding its core gameplay. I love our costume creator, but you can't build a game off a front loaded feature.

Instanced missions should be the perfect way to deliver many unique forms of gameplay to your players...instead so many of our missions blur into the same static and uninteresting environments, that you eventually stop even caring what map you're on past the fact that you hope this last cave mission doesn't have the 'doughnut room of death'.

I'm hoping to heck that GR really does turn this game around, because its almost painful to me to see such great potential dribbled down the drain. I hope that this lack of more info on GR is hiding a truckload of great stuff, because this game is long past overdue for something awesome. And no, Captain Dynamic(and AE) wasn't it.

Originally Posted by macskull

It's funny, that's what they said about I16 too.

Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper

If you're referring to people saying "zzz", in my experience people use that to indicate ANY mez, not sleep in particular.

Originally Posted by Forbin_Project

Would you accept that they want instant gratification?

Also I'll admit I never considered PvP so the PvP only auto level is acceptable to me.

Originally Posted by War_Monk

Thanks for the vote of confidence.

Aye, I hear what you're saying with the team inspiration bar. There would have to be something to anchor the inspiration bar. The way regular groups are handled in CoX would have to change to something similar to a Task Force/Strike Force, but with the flexibilty of adding new players.

Maybe when a player chooses to make a group for the first time they can name their group similar to how the NPCs refer to the TF/SF by a specific name when they're created. Doing such a thing may require making a whole new database for that information though.




Yeah, I was greatly annoyed about this when I played Planetside and Battlefield. However, the main difference between those leadership systems and this one is that everything in the system is for the team.

It was a bad idea to give a alpha strike to leaders in Battlefield and Planetside. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. The most annoying thing I think people could do with the powers presented here is TP everyone into a quick death which is solved by by a quick one star rating, player note, and ignore.

Originally Posted by Silas

t Siolfir, Yeah, Brutes really do get the short end of the stick when it comes to SD. It's a real shame but its not too bad, Brutes get plenty to be happy about in other sets

t Fire-Minded, I can only speak for myself but I don't have these problems you're talking about with the high-damage ATs dying all the time.

For me, the higher damage ATs like Dominators/Blasters/Scrappers/Brutes/Corruptors are better than the low damage ATs who have higher survivability. It's not a simple question of higher damage. Having huge damage is nice and all, but as you say it doesn't matter how much damage you have if you can't apply it.

And that's the breaker for me. If I can use experience, slotting and skill to hardly, if ever, die on a higher damage AT, why would I play a lower damage one?

It's about being tough enough. If a Scrapper or Brute can be built and played so that they can put out all their damage without dying, which they can and frequently are, why would I want to play a Tanker? Whose damage is yes, piddly in comparison. Who has superfluous amounts of survivability and pays for it in piddly damage. Ditto for a Corr versus a Defender.

If you think Defenders and Tankers are better than Corrs and Brutes because the Corrs and Brutes always die, you need to play with some non-awful Corrs and Brutes.

Or better yet, apply some of that incredible skill of yours you're always raving about and properly play a Corruptor or Brute. If you're as good as you seem to think you are, you should be able to survive just fine. And if you're surviving just fine, why would you make the tradeoff for lower damage and more survivability?

And if you want to talk soloing numbers, here is the list of my apparently low-survivability ATs that can and have soloed x8 missions with bosses.

At +4: My Fire/Dark, my Rad/Kin, my Ice/Cold, my Fire/Fire dom, my Fortunata and my Fire/Traps.

Pretty much all of my Corrs can solo at +1-2 x8 with or without bosses.

Originally Posted by Lady Arete

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