Safeguard/Mayhem Flashbacks
I see the bank missions as a means to an end (new contacts), rather than a goal in themselves. Thus, I'd consider it reasonable if you could run them in flashback without doing paper missions, though I don't think you should get the temp powers (or a new contact) upon completion if you're above the maximum level for that bank.
I believe that all other accolade badges can be acquired from flashbacks now, so the only conceptual reason not to allow this would be if the bank missions were farmable, in some way, for disproportionate rewards. I can't think of any possibilities off the top of my head, but I'm not a particularly devious person.
They've kind of got infinite spawns... so that's good for them. And safeguards can be strung out FAR longer than Mayhems, in general. Though even still it's no more XP than street sweeping enemies of your own level.
On the other hand... I would like if the temp powers granted by standard Safeguards and Mayhems were still granted through Oro Flashbacks. Just in a weakened manner. Like shorter durations on how long you keep the power, longer use between activations (for the self rez or team TP) or smaller buffs for the auto-powers.
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i would highly support this idea
although the temps you receive for 1 time things arent too good to begin with (i mean if your 50 the debt protection temp from mayhem is gonna do you nothing)
however you could still get the temp powers out of the side mishs that grant the temp powers (weapon deals for safeguards for example)
I whole hearted agree. Safeguards/Mayhems are one of the things I love the most about this game, but also hate, because of the grind of the newspaper missions to get them. I would run them over and over again but I dislike the newspaper/radio missions to get them. They're fine every once in a while, like if I just don't feel like running the next mish in a story arc, but when I'm in the mood for a safeguard/mayhem, and I have to run through three to five random missions just to get to the safeguard/mayhem, it kills my enthuziasm, and I end up rushing through it.
The other day I was helping out a coalie do mayhems so he could get some of the badges, and I honestly couldn't remember the last time I spent over 30 minutes in a mayhem, and still had fun with it. I didn't even mind when I died, and had to escape from jail.
Mayhems and safeguards should be Ouro'able, so they can be more exciting and fun to do.
Also the thought of merits for doing them via Ouro comes to mind. I would think that there could be a way to reward merits based on how long you're in the mission with the timer running. This is just a first thought, and I know some people might have an issue with that based on Mayhems the timer starts right away, but Safeguards, the timer doesn't start until after the bank robbers are stopped, but unless they change that, I only see one other possibility. 1 merit for every member of the team. You run it solo, you get 1 merit. You run it with a full team of 8, you get 8 merits. The reason I don't like that option is that it would be far too easy to start up a merit farm.
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That would be way easier to get the Invader badge.
Agreed.
I'd love to have this for invader.
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Another idea for badging purposes, could be to set GV/PI mayhem/safeguard mishes to randomly access all the zones - or give a choice of zone at the broker/PPD
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I'm not a highbie yet but I don't like the idea of going through extraneous and unreliable means of obtaining special accolades just because I outlevelled content.
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I would love a way to run lower level mayhem missions without having to bug another player in that level range.
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/Signed. They give badges, ones that are needed for accolades no less. Ergo, they should show up in Ouro.
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I've always thought it would be nice to have safeguards/mayhems available through the Ouro System. I have my lvl 50 badge toon that still hasn't gotten those badges yet and it certainly would make it easier to get them.
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I love to be able to revisit mayhems. I love running them and I stay in there till ever box, car, and parking meter is destroyed
And to be able to grab the badges one missed when leveling would be very nice too. I don't care if I got the temp power or not.
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I'm glad everyone seems to like this idea. I knew I wasn't the only one having trouble getting these after they had been missed. I think the reason they are so hard to get is that many lowbies who are not familiar with accolades don't see why they should invite a lvl 50 when there are other lowbies that need to level. This kind of logic I can understand, yet it leaves higher level toons in a difficult position for getting the badges.
Merit rewards I'm really not so sure about. Especially if the flashback allows you to skip right to the bank like some have suggested. But we already know that they wouldn't set it up like that anyways, since it would be too easy and too fast for getting merits. That's why I'm suggesting the system the way I would have imagined them making it lol.
I agree. Trying to accolade a few pvp villains has been a pain in the ****.
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I know that people have suggested changes to the flashback system before, but I couldn't find any mention of this. I think it would be nice to be able to repeat safeguard/mayhem missions via the Ouroboros zone because sometimes (even more so on villains) it can be rather tough to get them once they have been missed. I stood in Port Oakes on several occasions this weekend for extended periods of time looking for people who would take my level 50 on these runs so that I could get the badges. While looking for the Kings Row bank run, I saw three teams go in without even paying attention to my messages. Why people have such a problem helping higher level toons get these badges is beyond me, but it certainly is a problem that exists (I wasn't the only one in the zone trying to do this).
I'm not saying that you should automatically get the bank missions from Ouroboros. That would be far too easy. It could work quite similar to how it does in the zones. Here's what I'm suggesting:
-Radios/Newspapers appear in the appropriate level ranges in the mission list.
-A player will still be required to complete the necessary number of missions before being able to run a safeguard/mayhem.
-Any temporary powers gained are still subject to the same restrictions as other powers gained through flashback missions (ie: shortened durations).
I feel that this would be a very fair system and can see this feature being utilized by many high level characters. This would prove extremely useful for villains who are seeking the Invader accolade and are having a hard time finding people to help them with it. I play on Freedom server and still have trouble finding people who are willing to help, despite my monetary offerings.