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And how do you tell if the person that actually plays on the account is the person that paid for it at the beginning? If a parent paid with their credit card because their 15 year-old son or daughter didn't have one yet?

There was a thread in the City Life forum that had them, IIRC.

This. It makes no sense for CoH to offer this up now.

Not really, since that was only one of the reasons that Brutes didn't get Ice Armor/Ice Melee. The other one being that they like to stick with themes, and Ice Melee sucked the big one for Brutes, especially since it did very low damage, and had several additional ways to decrease the number of attacks on it in addition to the slows.

Ice Melee wasn't given to Brutes because at the time, it was absolutely horrid for Brutes, especially given their lower damage Mod from even Tankers.

Agreed to the first part. However, it shouldn't be true on the second part, at least in theory.

Less demand should lower prices. Unless the supplies are going down faster than demand is, at least.


But I do agree that the people who are taking breaks from the game (including me, kind of) aren't the people that were tending to rack up 2 billion influence to buy stuff.

Still not quite right, but accurate in how it works in game. There is no "flag" that sets it to knockdown if the mag value is less than 0.75. Think about it this way, the mag of knockback is how far the enemy will fall backwards. At knockback values of less than 0.75, the distance is functionally 0, and the enemy will still fall down, but won't go back any.

There are two knock effects, but they are knockback and knock-up. Knockback and knockdown are the same effect.

I never said anything about Knock Up, which is separate. However, if you ACTUALLY look at the powers in the various Tanker sets, including Axe, you'll see that there is no knockdown value. There is, however, a knockBACK value, of less than 0.75 (thanks for the correction on that one, Fleeting). Knockback and knockdown are one in the same, just with different values.

Except, again, this would be the same thing. You're asking for the same thing, but it still wouldn't do what you're looking for. There is NO way to improve Knock-down effects, without turning them into KB effects, unless you increase the value (usually 0.67 KB) by a percentage small enough to keep it under 0.75 KB. So, unless you switch out all of those KB enhancements for something else, you're not going to get what you want. Basically, you're asking for the same set, but without any KB in it, which would then need to be replaced with more Acc, or EndRed, or some other effect.

Now, the Kinetic Combat set has a Proc that does Knock-back, which could be changed. Since then you're just changing the value of the KB on the Proc.

Now, here's the problem again. Say you have an attack that currently does knock down. You add a proc to it that also does knock down. If the proc fires off, then the two effects combine, and it becomes knockBACK again. That is because the Mags will stack, and push it over the 0.75 mag boundary between knock down and knock back.

Also, Ice Melee ain't bad now, either! Just to throw your world really in a tizzy.

All of the Purple sets are unique, and you can only have one of any given enhancement within the set on any character.

You can have multiple purple sets on a character, but you can only have one of each enhancement.


For other sets, there are specific IOs within the set that are flagged as unique, which you should be able to see on ParagonWiki (just check the legend at the top of the page).

It's not as much about having 'extra' slots. It's about being able to drop other powers, thereby freeing up slots, to get locked powers, and use the slots there. However, even given that, I know several of my builds that have put slots into throwaway powers, just because I didn't really have any other place to put them. Not 12-15, of course, but 6-7? Possibly.

Replacing a power pick is fine, and you're right, is the norm. It's more about how already-established characters wouldn't be able to choose among them, which I'll get to later in the post, I'm sure.


Glad to hear it.


It's different in the following way: at character creation, you get to pick and choose among all of the power picks, knowing that you can take power pools available to everyone to shore up any weaknesses that you might want covered.

What you are proposing is a locked power pool choice, that, while new characters would be able to look at with foresight, established characters would have no way of choosing between. If they didn't like the one that came with their origin, which might have been picked 5 years ago, then what do they do? They can't change out of it to get the power pool that they want. They're stuck, with an in-game effect based on choice they made 5 years ago, or even a day ago, that they can't alter.


Not at all what I was talking about. I was talking about how, yes, they'd be able to run the arc, as established in your OP, but would NOT be able to get access to the power pool from that arc, because it's still tied to a different origin from them. Hence, it is locked, and they can't access it.


Most of these have very little impact on gameplay. The Vet powers have an equivalent choice, really. Just a difference between KB and -ToHit and damage type. There are a couple of temp powers that have difference effects based on origin, but they are temporary, and tend to have few uses. Nothing has a potentially game-affecting, mostly permanent (outside fo a respec) effect on the character, as these origin power pools would.


Except that my Magic Origin Tanker can't get access to the Mutant Origin Power Pool. He does have access to any IO set out there if he has the funds, and he can access the market at any time if he wants. You're comparing additions to the game that everyone has equal access to, to a new addition to the game that is locked by origin. It's not the same.


Yes, it is just your opinion versus mine. But that doesn't negate anything that I've said. At this point in the game, it is my opinion that something like this would be a bad idea. And I've given my reasons for it. You have not convinced me that my worries aren't logical, or would be addressed. In fact, you've done the opposite, and made it seem like my worries are not just justified, but there would be more along the same lines as my worries.

Yes, the Min/MAx effect happens no matter what, but allowing huge abuses of that for no reason isn't a good idea. And even if it needed slotting, it's not a huge loss for many characters, who have extra slots in the 40s, or could even use these to replace another power pick.

Even if you made them dependent on AT, you'd have differences in the origin pools, right? I mean, if you made them have all the same powers, then there's not much of a point, is there? Any time you make differences, there will be better choices than others. Just look at the Patron Pools now. Some are just "better' for any given AT than others are. I really don't think we should expand that.

Except, they WOULD be restricted to their origin powers. Just because they can run the arc, doesn't mean that they'd have access to the origin power pool of that arc, since they'd be of the wrong origin. The origin powers that we get now are VERY minor, and tend to become very unused at the later levels. Heck, most of my characters tend to take them off the bar upon character creation. Having a power pool tied to origins is a lot different from that.

I don't think that the Power Packs as they are now was a mistake. I wasn't talking about changing those now. I was talking about how you have characters that can be as much as 5 years old, unable to change their origin, that would be locked into a game-affecting choice if these origin power pools were introduced. Right now, there are very few things in-game that iare really affected by origin, so that it can be an RP tool. As such, it has been mainly used as an RP tool. Changing THAT now I think would be a big mistake.