No, because Hecatomb (and several other sets and IOs) is a unique set, and can only be used once.
Otherwise, and in other cases, you're right.
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1 Hamidon, the other trials, and Task/Strike forces now award merits, which can be redeemed at a Merit vendor (one at each market, and various other places). They used to let you choose a random recipe, but no longer with merits. You can choose a random roll for 20 merits or so at a vendor, or save up to buy a specific recipe. AE drops tickets (unless Dev's choice and you've chosen regular rewards) which are redeemed at the ticket Vendor for various level rolls.|
Originally Posted by Radubadu
As I'm approaching 50 on my first toon I'm trying to learn about set IOs and have a couple questions. First let me say that I understand they're not necessary but the WoW in me *shudder* wants my toons to be as strong as they possibly can.
1. My understanding is that aside from purchasing the recipes from WW the other options are Hami raids (which I've never done), regular missions or AE missions in order of the more likely place to get a drop, is that so? 2. From what I read on wiki the set bonuses only apply if all of that set are slotted in the same power and parts of the set can't be repeated in the same power... so does that mean that I could slot the full Hecatomb set in every melee power I have assuming they all have six slots? And if price/time weren't an issue would there really be a reason not to do so? Thanks for any help on this. |
2 - Yes and No. Each piece of Hectacomb is unique, so only one of each piece can be slotted per build. This is true with all purples. But other than that, yeah. Note, a given set bonus only stacks five times with itself, so many deversify their sets for that reason. More info can be found at Paragon Wiki.
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So Hecatomb no but there are other sets that I could have fully slotted in multiple powers? How do you find out... I looked it up on http://wiki.cohtitan.com and I can't really tell a difference by looking at them and they don't really say "unique" anywhere, but I could not be looking in the right spot.
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Originally Posted by DumpleBerry
No, because Hecatomb (and several other sets and IOs) is a unique set, and can only be used once.
Otherwise, and in other cases, you're right. |
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Originally Posted by Radubadu
So Hecatomb no but there are other sets that I could have fully slotted in multiple powers? How do you find out... I looked it up on http://wiki.cohtitan.com and I can't really tell a difference by looking at them and they don't really say "unique" anywhere, but I could not be looking in the right spot.
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You can have multiple purple sets on a character, but you can only have one of each enhancement.
For other sets, there are specific IOs within the set that are flagged as unique, which you should be able to see on ParagonWiki (just check the legend at the top of the page).
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Unless it says it is unique in its own description, it's not. So it's safe to say that all the ones you looked at weren't unique. |
Originally Posted by Radubadu
So Hecatomb no but there are other sets that I could have fully slotted in multiple powers? How do you find out... I looked it up on http://wiki.cohtitan.com and I can't really tell a difference by looking at them and they don't really say "unique" anywhere, but I could not be looking in the right spot.
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And stacking multiple sets can be very advantageous.
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Look up a set or sepcific enhancement. For example, we'll look at the previously-mentioned Hecatomb set. Notice that each of the pieces in the set hast the |
Originally Posted by Radubadu
So Hecatomb no but there are other sets that I could have fully slotted in multiple powers? How do you find out... I looked it up on http://wiki.cohtitan.com and I can't really tell a difference by looking at them and they don't really say "unique" anywhere, but I could not be looking in the right spot.
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icon beside it. That means that it's Unique. Hovering over any icon in a recipe description will tell you what that icon means.
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I have two other suggestions:
First, make sure you read the Rule of Five:
http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Rule_o...e_Law_of_Fives
Secondly, while IOs are very powerful it's very easy to slot them in a way that doesn't really benefit you. There are lots of things that can trick you up and there is a learning curve. Before you start spending inf/merits on IOs I strongly recommend that you design your build in mids' and then post it in the sub-forum for your AT with a request for feedback. There are lots of people on these forums who have experience IO'ing toons and can offer advice to help you avoid the stumbling blocks.
http://www.cohplanner.com/
Ahhh ok, I'm at work and it blocks a lot of images sometimes.
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Also, http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/IO_Sets shows the same 1 symbol as the pages for the individual sets.|
Originally Posted by Roderick
Look up a set or sepcific enhancement. For example, we'll look at the previously-mentioned Hecatomb set. Notice that each of the pieces in the set hast the
icon beside it. That means that it's Unique. Hovering over any icon in a recipe description will tell you what that icon means. |
Oh and meant to add:
Hecatomb, as a purple set will only drop from foes able to drop lvl 50 enhancements (lvl 47+), can only be slotted at lvl 50, and are not purchasable with merits.
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Originally Posted by Draggynn
Also, http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/IO_Sets shows the same 1 symbol as the pages for the individual sets.
Oh and meant to add: Hecatomb, as a purple set will only drop from foes able to drop lvl 50 enhancements (lvl 47+), can only be slotted at lvl 50, and are not purchasable with merits. |
True that purple sets can only be slotted when you reach 50, but just to clarify a bit, they can be slotted in any appropriate power taken at any level.
In other words, you can slot your low level powers with purples... you just have to wait until you reach lvl 50 to do it.
Slotting lower level powers with purples has another little benefit.... there is no penalty of diminishing returns when exemping. Other IO's will scale down their benefits when exemping.
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I think this may be a little misleading. Purple IOs scale according to the same rule that all enhancments obey when you exemplar (which are a tad confusing...but if you're interested: http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Exemplar...n_Enhancements). Likewise purple enhancements at all levels still suffer from the diminishing returns effects of enhancment diversification.|
Originally Posted by Impish Kat
Slotting lower level powers with purples has another little benefit.... there is no penalty of diminishing returns when exemping. Other IO's will scale down their benefits when exemping.
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I believe what Impish Kat is trying to say, is that the set bonuses from purple enhancements are unaffected by exemplaring, they are always active (and as with all set bonuses do not scale by level), but the enhancments themselves do scale down.
I hope that clarified things.
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Honestly, I'm getting more and more confused the more I read lol... but it's starting to make sense.
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Originally Posted by Draggynn
I hope that clarified things.
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I probably made that more confusing than necessary.|
Originally Posted by Radubadu
Honestly, I'm getting more and more confused the more I read lol... but it's starting to make sense.
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normal IO set bonuses are lost if you are more than three levels below the level of the slotted IO. Purple IOs do not obey this rule and their set bonuses are always active.
Just keep asking questions though as long as you're confused and we're happy to keep answering.
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Originally Posted by Radubadu
Honestly, I'm getting more and more confused the more I read lol... but it's starting to make sense.
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Thanks, Draggyn, for setting me straight on that. I was under the impression that the individual purples did not scale down like the other IO's. Sorry 'bout that.
Honestly, though, I really love the Mid's Hero planner. I spent hours on it figuring out which combination of sets I wanted for my arch/kin (very difficult to get those defenses/resistances up). I ended up with 4 possible builds, and actually ended up settling on a "non-purple" build. I may change that sometime down the line (purples are expensive!), but for now, I think I have something that will do the trick.
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AHA! now I get it lol... and for what Impish Kat said I have mids installed on my pc at home I just haven't really messed with it all that much but I'll probably start here soon.|
Originally Posted by Draggynn
I probably made that more confusing than necessary.
normal IO set bonuses are lost if you are more than three levels below the level of the slotted IO. Purple IOs do not obey this rule and their set bonuses are always active. Just keep asking questions though as long as you're confused and we're happy to keep answering. |
And thanks for all your guys' help!
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Since you're interested in creating an IO build, I STRONGLY recommend Mids' Hero Designer. It will let you plan out your build and the IOs you slot, without forcing you to buy, sell, farm, and respec for months on end to find what you like. Mids' will also tell you the results of your slotting, as well as when you're breaking the Rule of Five.
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As I'm approaching 50 on my first toon I'm trying to learn about set IOs and have a couple questions. First let me say that I understand they're not necessary but the WoW in me *shudder* wants my toons to be as strong as they possibly can.
1. My understanding is that aside from purchasing the recipes from WW the other options are Hami raids (which I've never done), regular missions or AE missions in order of the more likely place to get a drop, is that so?
2. From what I read on wiki the set bonuses only apply if all of that set are slotted in the same power and parts of the set can't be repeated in the same power... so does that mean that I could slot the full Hecatomb set in every melee power I have assuming they all have six slots? And if price/time weren't an issue would there really be a reason not to do so?
Thanks for any help on this.
Global @radubadu
Usually playing one of the following toons blueside on Virtue:
Cadler 50 WP/SS tanker
Radubadu 46 Fire/Fire blaster
Hell Runner 35 Fire/Fire brute