Rumor: NCSoft banning CoH accounts for negative comments
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Posted on: 2012-10-26 18:05 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
LOL!!!!!
You read my mind.
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Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
Your "hope" long ago passed into full blown delusion, didn't it?
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Originally Posted by Paladiamors
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Originally Posted by mauk2
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No problem whatsoever.|
Originally Posted by Red Valkyrja
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Well SOMEONE had to say it.
Besides, I love a good conspiracy theory as much as the next person, but this one seems to be right up there with the whole 'chem trails' thing.
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Now see, the proper response would have been...|
Originally Posted by Dark_Respite
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Besides, I love a good conspiracy theory as much as the next person, but this one seems to be right up there with the whole 'chem trails' thing. Michelle aka Samuraiko/Dark_Respite |
"No problem whatsoever."
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Ummm... this is me. Since when have I EVER done the 'proper' thing?|
Originally Posted by Red Valkyrja
Now see, the proper response would have been...
"No problem whatsoever." |
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EDIT: Oh. Um. Initial response fixed.
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Well, you got me there, but hey, you're the one that started the movie quote. :รพ
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Originally Posted by Dark_Respite
Ummm... this is me. Since when have I EVER done the 'proper' thing?
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Even if they do this, it won't stop our Voice, Also there are so many other ways to bad mouth them other then Facebook and The Forums.
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Originally Posted by GreenFIame
Even if they do this, it won't stop our Voice, Also there are so many other ways to bad mouth them other then Facebook and The Forums.
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Originally Posted by Paladiamors
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Escuse me? A month from now everyone will get a permaban whatever they can say or do. |
Originally Posted by Xieveral
If you are one that has been vocal about the game closure via social networking, be careful with your personal information and mindful in how you express your displeasure.
According to a poster from the SaveCoH facebook group, they were banned from the game for what NCSoft deemed "negative" commentary on the English facebook page. Again, take this as rumor. The suspension may be unrelated to the comment, but it is better to be safe than sorry. |
The only reason that they could have to ban someone would be that they have decided about not closing the game then the ban would have some sense
Why is the whole point seem to be to bad mouth NCSoft? I thought the point was to try to convince them of something. Bad mouthing anyone or anything usually dont convince them to do anything but to dig in and stay the course. If a person was astore owner and they said that they are closing a store in an area and I want to convince them to stay open, I doubt bad mouthing them all over the town and throwing bricks through their window will all of a sudden make them think "Oh gee, they ARE a wonderful community. I think I will stay." No, they probably will try to close down and get out of dodge as fast as possible with as little words as possible. Gangster mafia tactics usually dont work these days in the corporate, unless you are the actual Mafia and have the power to actually back up the words and sometimes that is not guranteed success.
-Female Player-
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Originally Posted by mauk2
Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words.
"Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L! |
Companies have done studies that tell them that the average dissatisfied customer tells 20 others, and for every dissatisfied customer that complains to the company there are between 25-50 that don't contact the company and just complain to others. Those numbers add up quickly to where every dissatisfied customer a company knows about can represent the loss of 500-1000 potential customers.
The most shocking part about these numbers is that they are, if anything, conservative. Research has uncovered ratios as high as 2,000 unhappy customers for every known complaint.
That's the point of telling the truth about how NCSoft treated it's CoH customers who've been loyal for as many as 8 years. Hundreds of thousands of potential customers are thinking twice about doing business with them.
The only people that have disappeared from the forums recently have been extremely vocal and argumentative folk who belittled anyone who disagreed with them. Some crossposted their views onto every board and when asked not to by some, lit into them.
Even at the end of the world, you still will need the police to remove those who are making the lives of those who simply want to spend their remaining days with some quiet dignity miserable.
Father Xmas - Level 50 Ice/Ice Tanker - Victory
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Companies have done studies that tell them that the average dissatisfied customer tells 20 others, and for every dissatisfied customer that complains to the company there are between 25-50 that don't contact the company and just complain to others. Those numbers add up quickly to where every dissatisfied customer a company knows about can represent the loss of 500-1000 potential customers.
The most shocking part about these numbers is that they are, if anything, conservative. Research has uncovered ratios as high as 2,000 unhappy customers for every known complaint. That's the point of telling the truth about how NCSoft treated it's CoH customers who've been loyal for as many as 8 years. Hundreds of thousands of potential customers are thinking twice about doing business with them. |
Yet, it dont explain why more larger buisnesses are still hanging around, especially the ones that are constantly on the list of worse customer service and or the list of the most disatisfied customer list.
Then again you only did say think twice and some probably just ultimately go along with the company anyways.
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Originally Posted by mauk2
Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words.
"Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L! |
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This isn't a plumber, a local restaurant or a breakfast cereal, it's a form of entertainment. Look at the difference between professional critic and user reviews up on Metacritic or Rotten Tomatoes. Often films that are panned professionally have high user reviews because movie goers tend to go see something that they have a predilection to like in the first place. Word of mouth only works if your target believes you have the same tastes they do.|
Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Companies have done studies that tell them that the average dissatisfied customer tells 20 others, and for every dissatisfied customer that complains to the company there are between 25-50 that don't contact the company and just complain to others. Those numbers add up quickly to where every dissatisfied customer a company knows about can represent the loss of 500-1000 potential customers.
The most shocking part about these numbers is that they are, if anything, conservative. Research has uncovered ratios as high as 2,000 unhappy customers for every known complaint. That's the point of telling the truth about how NCSoft treated it's CoH customers who've been loyal for as many as 8 years. Hundreds of thousands of potential customers are thinking twice about doing business with them. |
Also people tend not to boycott conglomerates because of something one of their parts did. Would you boycott Pizza Hut or Taco Bell because of something KFC did? Or Longhorn Steakhouse because of something happened at Olive Garden or Red Lobster. People don't think that way.
Our argument is to stay away from a game publisher because of what they did to a game our target may not give a rat's behind about. If their friends like GW2, they will more likely listen to them than us. And with 2 million sales in the first month alone, that's likely a lot of positive voices versus our 20,000 diehard (based on the petition numbers) CoH supporters trying to warn them.
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$725 and $1350 parts lists --- My guide to computer components
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And in my eyes everyone has a right to post their opinions and if people get offended by someone that is why the ignore option is there.
I get paid to listen to delusional people in the real world, but thankfully I don't have to "listen" to them on the interwebs if I don't want to I actually prefer the differing opinions here compared to some forums where it seems more like a co-dependent circle jerk.
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Originally Posted by Paladiamors
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Originally Posted by Father Xmas
This isn't a plumber, a local restaurant or a breakfast cereal, it's a form of entertainment. Look at the difference between professional critic and user reviews up on Metacritic or Rotten Tomatoes. Often films that are panned professionally have high user reviews because movie goers tend to go see something that they have a predilection to like in the first place. Word of mouth only works if your target believes you have the same tastes they do.
Also people tend not to boycott conglomerates because of something one of their parts did. Would you boycott Pizza Hut or Taco Bell because of something KFC did? Or Longhorn Steakhouse because of something happened at Olive Garden or Red Lobster. People don't think that way. Our argument is to stay away from a game publisher because of what they did to a game our target may not give a rat's behind about. If their friends like GW2, they will more likely listen to them than us. And with 2 million sales in the first month alone, that's likely a lot of positive voices versus our 20,000 diehard (based on the petition numbers) CoH supporters trying to warn them. |
hmmmm. good point there. This probably explain the statement in my prior post.
-Female Player-
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Originally Posted by mauk2
Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words.
"Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L! |
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Originally Posted by I Burnt The Toast
And in my eyes everyone has a right to post their opinions...
...I actually prefer the differing opinions here compared to some forums where it seems more like a co-dependent circle jerk. |
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Originally Posted by mauk2
Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words.
"Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L! |
And not everyone who signed the petition is Anti-NCSoft. Heck I signed it AND bought GW2. I also had a few coworkers sign it...who have never heard of NCSoft and probably never will play an MMO. Most of my global friends signed it...and they are currently playing GW2 in of the many guilds of CoH players over there.
Not everyone thinks NCSoft is evil for closing CoH. Some of us actually realize it was a simple business decision...that actually makes sense when you look at it from a non-emotional "OMG they are murdering our game" viewpoint.
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Originally Posted by Father Xmas
This isn't a plumber, a local restaurant or a breakfast cereal, it's a form of entertainment. Look at the difference between professional critic and user reviews up on Metacritic or Rotten Tomatoes. Often films that are panned professionally have high user reviews because movie goers tend to go see something that they have a predilection to like in the first place. Word of mouth only works if your target believes you have the same tastes they do.
Also people tend not to boycott conglomerates because of something one of their parts did. Would you boycott Pizza Hut or Taco Bell because of something KFC did? Or Longhorn Steakhouse because of something happened at Olive Garden or Red Lobster. People don't think that way. Our argument is to stay away from a game publisher because of what they did to a game our target may not give a rat's behind about. If their friends like GW2, they will more likely listen to them than us. And with 2 million sales in the first month alone, that's likely a lot of positive voices versus our 20,000 diehard (based on the petition numbers) CoH supporters trying to warn them. |
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Originally Posted by Paladiamors
I love you, I Burnt the Toast!
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Originally Posted by Father Xmas
Also people tend not to boycott conglomerates because of something one of their parts did. Would you boycott Pizza Hut or Taco Bell because of something KFC did? Or Longhorn Steakhouse because of something happened at Olive Garden or Red Lobster. People don't think that way.
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No more often than not they don't even know those companies are interconnected. Fortunately NCSoft isn't that big or diversified so it's less likely that type of confusion will happen.
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| Our argument is to stay away from a game publisher because of what they did to a game our target may not give a rat's behind about. If their friends like GW2, they will more likely listen to them than us. And with 2 million sales in the first month alone, that's likely a lot of positive voices versus our 20,000 diehard (based on the petition numbers) CoH supporters trying to warn them. |
They don't have to give a rat's behind about CoH itself to see how abrubtly and poorly NCSoft implemented the closure, and how shabbily they treated it's loyal customers.
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Yes, but they aren't loyal customers. If some business in town closes that you never been to, do you care? I'm sure their regulars are upset, especially if it was the only one in town that catered to them and you may overhear how they are lamenting about it while shopping at the market but it didn't affect you.|
Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
They don't have to give a rat's behind about CoH itself to see how abrubtly and poorly NCSoft implemented the closure, and how shabbily they treated it's loyal customers.
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NCSoft is just one logo on the box. ArenaNet is the logo people may be more aware of and don't realize that ArenaNet is 100% owned by NCSoft and think NCSoft is simply just a publisher. So they won't make that connection either.
Father Xmas - Level 50 Ice/Ice Tanker - Victory
$725 and $1350 parts lists --- My guide to computer components
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To be fair, even though I have been reading the NCsoft financials for a while, it was only *recently* that I actually noticed *or cared* about the fact that Arenanet were wholly owned by NCsoft as a totally seperate subsidary.|
Originally Posted by Father Xmas
NCSoft is just one logo on the box. ArenaNet is the logo people may be more aware of and don't realize that ArenaNet is 100% owned by NCSoft and think NCSoft is simply just a publisher. So they won't make that connection either.
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So honestly, unless you are in the know, chances are you wont put 2 and 2 together.
Side note.... out of everyone who owns X-Com... did you know that Firaxis are wholly owned by Take 2, so for those of you who have a grudge against Rockstar Games and boycotted anything to do with them, why on earth are you playing X-Com!
*edit* Yeah i know that i went off thread here, but it is just to prove the point that there are some *very* strange links out there, and boycotts can remove some titles that you didn't think would be affected.
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Originally Posted by Father Xmas
Yes, but they aren't loyal customers. If some business in town closes that you never been to, do you care?
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On the other hand I have frequently flat out refused to have anything to do with places my friends have complained about, and gone to places that have been recommended by friends even if they didn't have anything I personally liked because while I may not need anything from there, I could by those friends a gift from there.
And being a big tabletop gamer I've even driven 60-100 miles to support game stores I heard about to see what they carried and find out if they'd ship things to me if I ordered from them. Especially after I caught a friend (who owned his own game store) opening his customers special orders (Games Workshop Warhammer miniatures) to get figurines he wanted and replacing the pack with one off his shelf. After that his special orders kind of dried up, as everyone that ordered from him pretty much knew each other.
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| NCSoft is just one logo on the box. ArenaNet is the logo people may be more aware of and don't realize that ArenaNet is 100% owned by NCSoft and think NCSoft is simply just a publisher. So they won't make that connection either. |
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Yep that is why Andy is still helping to hold the Sheriff's station against the hoards of undead.
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Originally Posted by Father Xmas
The only people that have disappeared from the forums recently have been extremely vocal and argumentative folk who belittled anyone who disagreed with them. Some crossposted their views onto every board and when asked not to by some, lit into them.
Even at the end of the world, you still will need the police to remove those who are making the lives of those who simply want to spend their remaining days with some quiet dignity miserable. |
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I personally do not feel I was treated shabbily by NCSoft. They gave me a 90 day notice that CoH was shutting down...more than most MMOs get. They could have easily given a 30 day notice...just saying.
Loyal customers? Where were all these LOYAL customers a year ago..6 months ago?? Just like any funeral...people come out of the woodwork to praise the deceased when they couldn't be bothered 6 months ago or a year ago to give CoH a second thought.
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
No more often than not they don't even know those companies are interconnected. Fortunately NCSoft isn't that big or diversified so it's less likely that type of confusion will happen.
They don't have to give a rat's behind about CoH itself to see how abrubtly and poorly NCSoft implemented the closure, and how shabbily they treated it's loyal customers. |
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Originally Posted by Paladiamors
I love you, I Burnt the Toast!
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Be well, people of CoH.