NCSoft denied attempts at offers

This has probably been posted before but just in case it wasn't:


"...and ignored any and all offers."

Any way we can turn this around to favour us somehow ?

It is based on an article written by one of the posters over on the Titan Network forums (Downix I believe wrote the Addicting Info article).

So, how accurate that is, make up your own mind.

I have problems with *this* article in the 1st place.

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But with NCSoft, even a simple notice on the Main page is suspect, thanks to the precedent set just a couple years back with the forging of Richard Garriot’s resignation. Sorry, fool me once shame on you.

I have posted about the validity of the rumor of NCsoft forging RG's letter... I find it unlikely.

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Originally Posted by Kosmos NCSoft wrote the resignation letter, not Garriott. When Garriott refused to sign and accept it as his own, that meant it could not be legally attributed to him. NCSoft did so anyway (it was their first line of attack in the court case). That's one of the primary definitions of forgery: To write a document to pass off as being authored by another.

Ok, I am assuming that we are referring to the letter to NCsoft management and *NOT* to the "Letter to the players" correct?

Can you provide a link for that information? Or is it all dependent on how you read the documents that I have been able to find?
Original court ruling
Appeals Ruling and information

The reason why I am asking for this, is to at least build upon the information i have to hand.

I have found this article from the attorneys who worked on the case.

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Because NCsoft mischaracterized his termination as voluntary

Ok, the other reason why I believe that this has been viewed as "faked/forged" by other people is because of what NCsoft also said in the court case in that:

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At the close of trial, NCsoft objected because the district court did not include a proposed jury instruction that, under Korean law, an employee's resignation is deemed voluntary unless obtained through coercion or intimidation

Now, once again, even if he *didn't* sign it, it would have (in their eyes) still been classified as voluntary[1].

Now granted from Ulimaaiera it does say

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At the time of his departure, a letter was posted on the Tabula Rasa website saying he was leaving the company due to his interest in spaceflight (Garriott spent 12 days in space as a space tourist). In his legal complaint letter, Garriott said that although he approved the letter, in hindsight (after conversations with NCsoft’s head of North American studios, Chris Chung) he felt the letter was actually a set-up to try and prove that Garriott left of his own free will.

But not once does it say that they forged or faked the letter. It does say that he approved it. What it does imply if *anything* is that NCsoft tried to use the letter as evidence that he was leaving of his own free will. Not that it was faked or forged.

[1]The Korean Supreme Court explained the legal standard:  “When an employer terminates a labor contract relationship ․ by receiving a letter of resignation from an employee and if the employee had no choice but to prepare and submit the letter of resignation even though the employee had no intent to resign, such termination corresponds to a forced dismissal since the termination of the employment contract relationship is based on the employer's unilateral intent.”   Supreme Court, 2005Da38270, Nov. 25, 2005 (S.Kor.).   In the present case, the district court's instruction stated “if an employer has a unilateral intent to terminate the employee and gave the employee no option but to resign, then his resignation is not of his own free [sic] and involuntary.” Source

So, with that in mind, what can we draw from this? That NCsoft *lied* about how dismissal/letters of resignation can be interpreted over in South Korea.

Sure, they might have tried to use his "Letter to the TR players" as proof of "hey this guy is leaving willingly". But doesn't mean that it was forged. The same with the resignation letter (which RG has stated that he never signed).

The PDF has been deleted - prob due to how much time has passed, but I remember it.

Having heard from the 'small studio' that made an offer, I rather suspect that none of the offers made were credible.

If they were, they could step up and say who they are.

None of this is even faintly believable. It's right up there with the $80 million Trion offer. (Hey, for all we know, that might be one of the two this idiot is 'reporting.')

Basically, we move forward by educating people about NcSoft's track record. Facts are facts:

1) Tabula Rasa's closure was so horrid it went to court and Garriot was awarded $28 million.

2) The staff on Dungeon Runners had plans to save the game, but were ignored.

3) Paragon Studios and City of Heroes were given zero time to prep.

4) Five MMOs down the drain, City of Heroes will be number six.

Their track record is horrid. The fudge the truth. If you're thinking of buying a NcSoft game (with a monthly fee, one they don't even support properly overseas) be ready hear these words when they decide to pull the plug, "I told you so."

Thanks for correcting me, I learned a bit which makes them even more reprehensible. Also, just learned the name for that silly fighting MMO isn't even that original and Namco should seriously be eyeballing them. Granted Soul Blade had become Soul Calibur, it's still a little shadey naming a Fighting MMO that close to a legitimate fighting game's original name.

Are you seriously wasting our time arguing about this? Even if they're wrong about the whole Garriot thing, there are still plenty of other credible, and on record, mistakes and two faced deals on NCSoft's part that have already been mentioned. Who cares if the Garriott thing isn't entirely correct.

Why do you care if they care?

The whole "We know something you don't know but we won't say" really does not help the article's credibility.

But... credible or not, bad press is bad press and bruises NCSoft's image a little more. As underhanded as it is, people pay more attention to the negative things.