How to make money

I pay very little attention, so I may not have even noticed, but I don't recall seeing myself get outbid by 1.

My purple bids have been ending in 111,337 since quite a while ago, I don't mind saying.

Ive had chars with 4-500 mil a few times, but slowly spent it. I was never really any good at making money. But recently I tried flipping purples and converting, and that is reliably making money now. However, I only flip 2 purples at a time (total.....) on a single char, trying to maximize my money. I also run some converts on some 70mil profit options, but that takes effort. :|

In any case, I finally have 2 bil!!!

placed some bids on some crummy purple recipes. waiting for them to fill so i can flip. Playing the waiting game isnt fun.

I've got one character flipping crafted purples, one character flipping crafted PVPs, and those make me respectable inf-per-transaction. I've got two chars crafting-and-selling and I do about three, four AMs a week. I know three different reasonable* converter niches other than purples. The marketeering is maybe half an hour a day in one or two sessions.

* Around 200M profit per 10 converters.

The interesting question is, "what's a fair price for valuable PVPs?" If you can make 30M profit per converter, and it takes you 15 converters, it's 450M in converters, plus [using Plasma's numbers] 90M for the crap IO, for a total of 550M.

I knew they were undervalued, but I didn't realize it was "by a factor of 2".

Plasma, you've got to check out the PvP IO market a lot closer. When converting, you aren't just aiming for those 4. There's a -lot- of other high end ones.

Glad Jav procs come to mind. Panacea Heal and Glad armor +res too. There isn't a small selection.


Worth noting, not too long ago I picked up 3 jav volley recipes for 15 million each, then sold them for 120 mill each once crafted.

PvP IO prices range a lot. It's certainly more than 14 mill per converter.

In fact, you can make a lot there without converters.

Isnt there a cooldown how often you can run a SSA and get a hero alignment merit?

Okay, here's my initial interaction with PvP IO's.

After Sentry's post I hopped on, dropped a swath of bids and went about my business. When I checked back I had a sizable # of winning bids, certainly many more than I would have bidding on purples. I crafted a sold a couple before it occurred to me that I should keep track of it, so I stopped claming wins. As of this morning all my junk had sold, and here's the tally:




I think I was pretty lucky with my conversions- most of these were one-converter shots, and I got more than my share of the 'procs'. One of the ones I listed and sold earlier was a Panacea proc.

I picked up all the recipes for around 90 million.
Purple recipes have escalated north of 150m if you want any sort of reasonable supply, so advantage: PVP IOs.

And with "good" ones selling around Purple prices, that's about 60m more profit than I'd expect from an 'average' Purple sale (pay around 150, sell around 300).

But the down side to this higher volume is, as Sentry brought up earlier when discussing industrial scale Purple converting......you need more converters.

Just messing with purples I've *never* had to 'work' to get converters. I just run stuff, convert normal merits to alignment merits, run SSAs and when I find myself getting short I just hop over to the Crucible and pick up another 10 pack.

But with the higher volume of the PvP IOs I actually ran out on my 'converting' characters. I had to go cash in another bunch of merits & buy more converters. He's out of 'regular' merits and only has one alignment merit left.

So for my personal needs I think I'll be sticking strictly to purples- the lower volume actually fits my playstyle better.

But for anyone who can rustle up stacks of converters on demand, PvP IOs are really, really profitable 'per slot' and you can also turn over a lot more of them if you want.