Name Reservation Changes
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They don't think to seem it's worth the resources and efforts for power pool customization and furth customization of primary/secondary powers.
Well technically it doesn't cost the company anything to do either. The cost of the storage space for the characters in question was paid off long ago, and the cost to develop the script to free up the names was also paid off long ago.
What it boils down to is whether or not the devs think it's worth the effort to run the script again, and from their responses to us they don't, and they don't plan on running it at any time in the forseeable future. |
Should we stop requesting it?
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They don't think to seem it's worth the resources and efforts for power pool customization and furth customization of primary/secondary powers.
Should we stop requesting it? |
Power customization would benefit *all* players.
Stripping names from others would do one of two things:
- Benefit a small group of people who're too lazy to come up with their own name.
- Benefit nobody because the names taken aren't the ones desired.

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Power customization would not benefit those who dont customize. Im sure there's a small population of them.
Power customization would benefit *all* players.
Stripping names from others would do one of two things:
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Name purge would benefit everyone who is currently playing!
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Respectfully I refuse to equate running a program that's already developed, installed, and run twice in the system to be a drain in resources. In my opinion that's like saying turning on the computers every morning at their work stations is an effort which equals resources.
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If you have a link where the devs said that please provide it because this is the first I've heard it worded that way.
They don't think to seem it's worth the resources and efforts for power pool customization and furth customization of primary/secondary powers.
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There's a huge world of difference between them saying they'd like to do something but can't because of limits on their time and resources, (which is what I'm thinking they actually said unless you can prove otherwise) and they are not going to do something for reasons they won't discuss.
So they aren't going to do it, and they aren't going to tell us why.
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See the conspiracy theorist in me takes that as they are looking into some new naming feature....which is why this is not being looked into. Hmmmm
If you have a link where the devs said that please provide it because this is the first I've heard it worded that way.
There's a huge world of difference between them saying they'd like to do something but can't because of limits on their time and resources, (which is what I'm thinking they actually said unless you can prove otherwise) and they are not going to do something for reasons they won't discuss. So they aren't going to do it, and they aren't going to tell us why. |
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As another poster mentioned, the line needs to be drawn at whether the customer is valuable or not.
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- Acquiring a new customer can cost 6 to 7 times more than retaining an existing customer
- Over a 5 year period customer attrition rates could reach as high as 50% if databases are left dormant
- Businesses which boosted customer retention rates by as little as 5% saw increases in their profits ranging from 5% to a whopping 95%.
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As Forbin has pointed out the development resources have already been spent for the script.
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You also can't provide any proof that some names that will be freed up will not be desired. Will there be some junk names from spammers? Yes. Will some good names be freed up? Possibly. I know for a fact that after the first round of names being freed up that I got the name "Strobe" for my Peacebringer. I think anyone actively playing the game should get the same chance.
Hopefully that reason why will make this issue meaningless.


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See the conspiracy theorist in me takes that as they are looking into some new naming feature....which is why this is not being looked into. Hmmmm
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I'm with you on this. Which is why I'm willing to wait and see what it is they "won't" tell us right now.
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After some research, I don't think that they are fixing the name-space issue. More likely he was keeping silent because of Issue 21.
I'm with you on this. Which is why I'm willing to wait and see what it is they "won't" tell us right now.
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We are following this thread and taking your feedback into account all.
However, to be perfectly clear: We are not currently planning another name purge in the near future. There are reasons for this, which I am not at liberty to discuss at the moment. |


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I've been playing this game long enough to know that the phrase near future means longer than 6 months to a year developmentwise. Under a year they start using variations of "Soon".
After some research, I don't think that they are fixing the name-space issue. More likely he was keeping silent because of Issue 21.
That post was from June 16, 2011 (closed beta for Issue 21 started 10 days earlier, 4 days before Issue 21 was openly announced). You do realize that most likely reason why Zwillinger wasn't talking about the reasons at that point was that Issue 21's features were to be announced, right? Including the Free to play aspect of the game and the fact that accounts will be playable even without subscriptions. |
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So disagreement = demonizing?
I notice that you like demonizing those that disagree with you, just like you are accusing others of doing. Hypocritical much?
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Okaaaay!
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You also can't provide any proof that some names that will be freed up will not be desired. |
I said that nobody here could prove that any of the names freed up WILL be desired. There's a big difference.
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Will some good names be freed up? Possibly. |
Okay, I've tried not to get involved in this argument, but this just hit me the wrong way. "Possibly" does not equal "certainty", at least to me. The way I read that, they're saying full-well they don't know if any good names will be freed up or not.
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Or maybe SG meant you calling people in favor of this idea : lazy.. as demonizing.. hmm I dunno....
So disagreement = demonizing?
Okaaaay! I never said I had proof that some of the names freed up will not be desired. I said that nobody here could prove that any of the names freed up WILL be desired. There's a big difference. But you don't know. Yet you continue to argue as if it were certainty. |

I love it when people play obtuse and I love it even more when people play the martyr (not saying you are playing the martyr).
More options for everyone playing. How does that not benefit everyone still playing? o.O
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You must love watching people keep making this suggestion after we've been flat out told by the devs that they aren't running the name purge anytime in the near future.
Or maybe SG meant you calling people in favor of this idea : lazy.. as demonizing.. hmm I dunno....
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Edit: Let's see what are some other good topics where we get to see obtuseness and martyrs . . . Oh! Merging the servers, full power set/AT respecs, open world PvP, and level bumping.
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Merging servers: I hope that never happens...
You must love watching people keep making this suggestion after we've been flat out told by the devs that they aren't running the name purge anytime in the near future.
![]() Edit: Let's see what are some other good topics where we get to see obtuseness and martyrs . . . Oh! Merging the servers, full power set/AT respecs, open world PvP, and level bumping. |
Super Respecs: Uhm No... Stupid Idea plain and simple.
Open World PvP: I would quit... (unless it was just one (new) server...so I didn't have to be bothered by it if I chose not to).
Level Bumping: I think the Incarnate system provides this in a way that works for this game.
The issue I have with these "requests" is they affect current players game play....where as an inactive name purge does not...as it only affects accounts which haven't been played (for this thread's purpose) for 3 years.
Like I said...numerous times... I am actually not FOR this as it does not have any affect on me...I just think the "logic" being used against this argument is weak and lacks any true consequences for the paying customer.
I do not use names like Megatronics or Burn Notice... my names are more short sentences than anything...like my forum name.
I Burnt The Toast
I Ride Stick
I Like To Rock
I Drunk Dialed My Ex
I'm Tricky Tricky
I Stole Your Mojo (deleted)
I Know Kung Fu (deleted)
I Forgot My Prozac (deleted)
Made In Thailand (deleted)
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Just to name a few.
I used to use more "common" hero names years ago....but when I couldn't get the ones I wanted I switched to this format for my names. So no it does not bother me if they never run the name purge script again, but I have yet to see any compelling argument on why they shouldn't run it either.
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The level bumping I was referring to are the occasional "The devs should give us the option to start at level "XX"." suggestions. But raising the level cap is another good one.
Level Bumping: I think the Incarnate system provides this in a way that works for this game.
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So no it does not bother me if they never run the name purge script again, but I have yet to see any compelling argument on why they shouldn't run it either. |
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I think "no, thanks." Especially with Freedom, as I'm running into people fairly regularly who are coming back saying "I haven't played in quite some time." We want to keep them.
I *do,* however, think something like that should apply to: - Old trial accounts. Their globals were all renamed "trial *random string*" so they're not that hard to find. Pop up a message for when they log in, IF they do, asking them to pick a global name (or have it revert to whatever the first character is, then give the message.) 90 days and they get freed up. - Banned accounts. Given I still have a list full of spammers, and I doubt most people want oluiadf89234... still, those should just be completely cleared. Also: - Accounts that haven't been on in a year get an email. "Come back. If you don't plan to, please free up your names, click here." - Accounts that are old enough to not have a global - well, the names under 35 *are* freed up from an old script. See if they reply. If not, archive 'em after 180 days after trying to make contact with an email or two like those above. |
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How is not jacking the names of inactive players being treated "better" than me? It seems we both enjoy the same protections, which is as it should be.
Actually, they aren't. By trying to treat former customers better than currently active players they are devaluing the importance of active players.
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Active players buy stuff on the market. Active players subscribe. Active players provide other players with human interaction. Inactive players provide nothing if they aren't up to date subscribers. |
It's not.
Inactive players provide the possibility of future revenue, which while not as arousing as current revenue is still several rungs up the ladder from "nothing".
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They also provide the possibility of no future revenue.
How is not jacking the names of inactive players being treated "better" than me? It seems we both enjoy the same protections, which is as it should be.
Why are you pretending an account being inactive is a permanent state? It's not. Inactive players provide the possibility of future revenue, which while not as arousing as current revenue is still several rungs up the ladder from "nothing". |
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So do current subscribers.
Unless you think nobody ever cancels an account?
But thanks for the brilliant insight.
Unless you think nobody ever cancels an account?
But thanks for the brilliant insight.
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And thanks for your brilliant insight
So do current subscribers.
Unless you think nobody ever cancels an account? But thanks for the brilliant insight. |

Again... still no compelling reason to NOT implement a name purge except for this elusive customer who is going to maybe return years later and maybe be upset he lost his "uber" name and maybe not just play as premium and not invest 1 cent in this game - that's a lot of maybes and guessing. Since a name purge does not affect CUSTOMERS....I fail to see how this ya know...affects the people who are currently playing the game.
Treating "not customers" and "non customers" the same as customers... goes against the very nature of customer satisfaction in terms of marketing and customer retention. For this discussion we are referring to "not customers" (not-customers are either past customers who are no longer customers or potential customers who choose to do business with the competition). To go further we are even dividing the not-customer segment further because this proposal would only involve those who were past customers.
So an addendum to this "proposal" has already been suggested...contact all users by email...give a fair warning that on such and such date a name purge will occur...advise the not-customer that CoH is now under the Freedom model and they can login completely free to ensure their names are not in jeopardy.
I know what you will say... well I registered with an email address I no longer use etc... Well... hey... at least Paragon tried to warn you. If you CHOOSE to be a not-customer for years...and then choose not to login for free.... you have made your choice. Paragon shouldn't have to worry about every single Joe Schmoe who played this game years ago...and instead should worry about...customer retention.
Hoping someone comes back...does not pay the bills.
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That's not what I'm saying, but have fun making up stories.
And thanks for your brilliant insight
![]() Again... still no compelling reason to NOT implement a name purge except for this elusive customer who is going to maybe return years later and maybe be upset he lost his "uber" name and maybe not just play as premium and not invest 1 cent in this game - that's a lot of maybes and guessing. |
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What it boils down to is whether or not the devs think it's worth the effort to run the script again, and from their responses to us they don't, and they don't plan on running it at any time in the forseeable future.
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