Do -you- want to see Praetorian Hamidon go down?


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No. Just no.
Yes. Just yes. It's a cool idea! Real clash of titans type stuff! If you're not gonna give me a reason why you don't like it then I'm not inclined to change my mind about it, since you can't be bothered to give a reason why not. So there!


 

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Yeah... I'd love to see a final fight with Praetorian Hamidon go down.


 

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I'd like to think that with Cole vanquished, Hamidon might not be aware of any survivors given how Cole goes down, taking life with him. Maybe he'd chillax for a bit till he realises his attacks aren't being stopped and then be the epilogue for the Praetorian storyline.

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... plus I actually want to see what an evolved Hamidon would look like.
Yes because:

I want to fight this!


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Build a new incarnate zone ala new Dark Astoria where we deal with the aftermath of the war.

Make Hamidon a raid like the Rikti Mothership Raid. Not exactly like it, but a big zone event that requires people from all over to come together.

I like zone events, and we only have one epic size zone event. We could use another.

EDIT: reuse or adapt both the underground trial maps and the Eden trial maps. Eden trial maps need to be used more.



 

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I definitely want to take down the Praetorian Hamidon. It makes sense that after we take down Cole we have the post-war mess to deal with, and the biggest part of that being the gigantic monster that wants to exterminate humanity from that entire dimension as well as ours.

It's gotta be huge. I imagine several times larger than the seed. I figure that it will be either a trial or a zone where the Praetorian Hamidon has "infected" the entire thing, with tentacles and monsters covering an entire city.



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I definitely want to take down the Praetorian Hamidon. It makes sense that after we take down Cole we have the post-war mess to deal with, and the biggest part of that being the gigantic monster that wants to exterminate humanity from that entire dimension as well as ours.

It's gotta be huge. I imagine several times larger than the seed. I figure that it will be either a trial or a zone where the Praetorian Hamidon has "infected" the entire thing, with tentacles and monsters covering an entire city.
What if they made the Hamidon itself the zone?

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Build a new incarnate zone ala new Dark Astoria where we deal with the aftermath of the war.

Make Hamidon a raid like the Rikti Mothership Raid. Not exactly like it, but a big zone event that requires people from all over to come together.

I like zone events, and we only have one epic size zone event. We could use another.

EDIT: reuse or adapt both the underground trial maps and the Eden trial maps. Eden trial maps need to be used more.
We've got 2. The Mothership Raid and the Hami raid. But yeah a new one wouldn't hurt.


 

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I would love to see this but rather than another trial have it as a good old fashioned task force.


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Having the Praetorian Hamidon break though into Primal Earth in Edden would be a good excuse to totally revamp the zone using the higher quality trees and plants and texture blending for the ground.


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Having the Praetorian Hamidon break though into Primal Earth in Edden would be a good excuse to totally revamp the zone using the higher quality trees and plants and texture blending for the ground.
Having it absorb half of IP would be better, IMO.


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I say we capture it and use it as a WMD against the Battallion.


 

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Praetoria can burn in a fire as far as I'm concerned. After almost two years, I'm sick to the back teeth of it. So no, Hamidon can consume the rest of the world and be happy.

The only time I want to see him again is if we have to make him an ally in order to take on the Battalion.


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I say we capture it and use it as a WMD against the Battallion.
That sounds suspiciously like Mender Silos' plan for Rularuu....


 

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I believe Posi stated in his open letter that i23 dealt with taking down Tyrant, and i24 was basically wrapping up all the loose ends, which would include Praetorian Hamidon.

And really Venture? As much as you despise Praetoria, they can't just go "Nope, it's all done!" and leave Prae Hami as a loose plot thread. As someone who claims to be such an expert in good writing, you should know you can't leave something like that just waving free.


 

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And really Venture? As much as you despise Praetoria, they can't just go "Nope, it's all done!" and leave Prae Hami as a loose plot thread. As someone who claims to be such an expert in good writing, you should know you can't leave something like that just waving free.
That's because he's as much an expert as Zardoz is a good movie.


 

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And really Venture? As much as you despise Praetoria, they can't just go "Nope, it's all done!" and leave Prae Hami as a loose plot thread. As someone who claims to be such an expert in good writing, you should know you can't leave something like that just waving free.
Of course they can; there is nothing "loose" about it. After Tyrant's government falls Praetoria is evacuated and the portals are closed. Praet!Hammi has no access to dimensional travel, so that's it, game over, the jello wins. Praetoria gets the unhappy ending; an object lesson, as if we needed one, as to why surrendering liberty for safety obtains neither.


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Praet!Hammi has no access to dimensional travel
The Primal one does, according to the LGTF


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Written by someone who thought the Hamidon was a Lovecraftian critter.


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Of course they can; there is nothing "loose" about it. After Tyrant's government falls Praetoria is evacuated and the portals are closed. Praet!Hammi has no access to dimensional travel, so that's it, game over, the jello wins. Praetoria gets the unhappy ending; an object lesson, as if we needed one, as to why surrendering liberty for safety obtains neither.
Praetoria, yes. Praetorian Earth, no. There's other cities out there besides Cole's perfect city; First Ward was the trial run and there's other colonies. New Vegas is mentioned in the 1-20 stuff.

There's also the matter of the Abyss. It's never been clear which dimension that the redside Hamidon amoeba came. It could've been another heroverse that thought they were destroying their Hamidon and it simply got pushed into ours OR it could be the vanguard of another Hamidon that has gained the ability to push through the universal walls, perhaps even a cell of the ascended Hamidon that has achieved dominion over most of the human race in Praetorian Earth; succeeding where Mot failed.


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With all the power of Rule 34 i say to the OP that, nay, i wish to never see the Praetorian Hamidon go down. The very thought churns the stomach and scars the mind's eye!

But knowing Rule 34 i also realize all protestations are for naught. *shudders*

That said, i would like the opportunity to directly take on and defeat the Praetorian Hamidon even if it was only a temporary victory.


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Praetoria gets the unhappy ending; an object lesson, as if we needed one, as to why surrendering liberty for safety obtains neither.
Uh, what? Considering that nothing was able to actually stop the Praetorian Hamidon or barely slow it at all, and Cole's deal at least delayed it temporarily, so i fail to see how it functions as the object lesson you're claiming. If they hadn't surrendered their liberty in all likelihood the residents of Praetoria, and quite possibly all others of that Earth would have been devoured by the Praetorian Hamidon years ago. At best it functions as Broken Aesop of the trope. It's more like "we're all doomed no matter what we do."

In all likelihood the Praetorian Hamidon would develop its own dimensional portals in time considering it already knows of dimensional travel and the origins of that tech on Primal Earth was directly derived from biological processes. It possibly wouldn't bother until it ran out of unassimilated biomass and got bored, so that might buy a decade or three. Of course it could probably grow some nice biological starships in addition to portals, so i imagine it wouldn't be bored for long. For extra amusement value it could change its name to Chtorr before setting off to seek new frontiers across the multiverse.


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Of course they can; there is nothing "loose" about it. After Tyrant's government falls Praetoria is evacuated and the portals are closed. Praet!Hammi has no access to dimensional travel, so that's it, game over, the jello wins. Praetoria gets the unhappy ending; an object lesson, as if we needed one, as to why surrendering liberty for safety obtains neither.
You assume Praetorian Hamidon won't try to attack the moment it realizes that Cole is down. Yes, there will obviously be a gap in the issues, but storyline-wise I think it's safe to assume we won't just cut our losses and run.

We know Hamidon in Primal is capable of dimensional travel, so why not Praetorian Hamidon too?


 

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Praetorian Cole still managed to singlehandedly force Praetorian Hamidon to the bargaining table. Then the Well powered him up to be its champion. Then we killed him. He picked a fight with us when he was vastly more powerful than when he stalemated Praetorian Hamidon, and we've straight up killed him and any of his friends who got in our way.

Depending on how much it knows, it might also be aware that the Primal Hamidon has not achieved the same world domination because Primal has so many powerful heroes we dogpiled it to death even after a colossal interdimensional war. A dogpile, it should be noted, that wasn't even Incarnated. Now it is.

Realisitically the Praetorian Hamidon has been given a hell of a lot of reasons to never want to see Primal Earth ever, ever again.


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I really want to have an opinion on the matter, but considering pretty much everything important that happens in Praetoria takes place in iTrials. I find myself largely unconcerned about the fate of Praetoria in much the same way as I find myself uninterested in the results of the British soccer cup finals - it's stuff I neither know anything about nor participate in.


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I really want to have an opinion on the matter, but considering pretty much everything important that happens in Praetoria takes place in iTrials. I find myself largely unconcerned about the fate of Praetoria in much the same way as I find myself uninterested in the results of the British soccer cup finals - it's stuff I neither know anything about nor participate in.
I agree with this. If Praetorian Hami is a zone event, or in a task force, great. I'm sick of trials, and I really only run them for badges. If I never saw a new trial, I'd be okay with it.

Of course, trials have been heavily weighted compared to task forces since the Incarnate system was released. Since then, only 1 TF (Sutter) and 1 SF (Kal) have been released, compared to the 2 pre-50 trials and 7 Incarnate trials. Yes, the Penelope Yin TF is coming in I23, but so is another Incarnate trial. It'd be nice to see more TFs/SFs coming out as well.


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Just off of the top of my head these are the things that come to mind with the 'End of the Praetorian War'

1. Refugees of all the Praetorian groups in Primal Earth looking for a new start/niche with attending story arcs.

2. Praetorian story arcs in the post-apocalyptic/survivalist vein to rebuild.

3. Raid/Trial to take on Praetorian Hamidon.

I like the Praetorian stuff, but then again, I didn't overplay it and get burnt out. I still have toons that are over there. I have toons that started there that are still loyal to Cole and others that would want to go back to rebuild after he's gone.