Discussion: Announcing a New Paragon Market Pilot Program - Freebie Friday!


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Well, yes, they are really bad at anything involving naming things these days, though this is far from the worst, and may be fixed 'soon', if they go with the following when it is finalized.
And yes, I also agree with the 48 hour world time "day" thing, so that anyone can log in at any time during their friday and claim the 'prize', seems like the only way to go and keep with the name (though I also rather liked 'Thievery Thursday' too), but hopefully that will be the case when it is out of the 'test' phase.

I would like to see it be the same item for everyone as it stands, as I am not a big fan of random, but failing that I hope if they do go to a randomized system that there are checks in place so people are getting things they can use, and not something they have already or other issues that may arise. Of course a 'new' item every week could get difficult to pull off too, even if it is something relatively simple, like a pair of boots or a belt or something.

The way things are sounding though this sounds pretty kewl. And by 'account wide' it sounds as though they are planning on something worth getting, which actually kind of surprises me, when he said random I got worried, super pack like things popped into my head. But the more I 'hear' the more it sounds like they are trying to make it something people will want. So I say 'Awesome, good deal'. And hope this isn't another of those things that gets started and forgotten about. But, either way, free stuff is free stuff.
I look forward to seeing what it will be tomorrow. and hope it's something worth having.
[though if it is a super pack I can see myself not bothering, well maybe to get that one last costume piece i didn't get with the 3 tokens i used to try and get the costume set, but that's beside the point and I don't care much about the helm, point is I can see missing it and not caring, and I 'assyoume' that they were hoping we would want to get it]
{and for the record, this is me being really positive about something, optimism isn't really in my nature... in case anyone wants to count this as 'complaining', I am a negative person, this is about as positive as I can be, , a roaring endorsement as it were, I even used words like 'hope', lol}


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There was a lot of confusion on Union about it, thougt it would be up already (damn you time zones!)

But I do think this is a great idea, hope we get something interesting, and if not... Well it's free =D

BTW; I think this is a great idea


 

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I quickly ckecked before I leave for school, I don't see any free featured item, it's still the same. I searched a bit and really can't find it =S

I could be alone and\or doing something wrong... but well then I wouldn't know what.
I'll try again when I'm back.
That's because it doesn't go live for another 17 hours. You're probably gonna need to check back, like, tomorrow before school.


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Yeh I just realized after I posted it... Thought it already was friday >.>

Already edited it, but the shame is on me, not fast enough :-P


 

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Already edited it, but the shame is on me, not fast enough :-P
No sweat dude. Time zones are crazy confusing. Just ask the community team every time they post an announcement about a scheduled event. >_>


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Free gifts from Paragon Studios just for logging in and playing one of my favorite games?

Thank You!!


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Y'know, to start we really should be shunning Andy for being a NOOB! What a total NOOB Andy is. And furthermore, and this is my opinion nay-sayers, but I think 'Freedom' is the worst thing to happen to CoX and therefore any 'sale' or featured items are worthless. And again grammar nuts or anyone who loves CoX, this is my opinion so blame me for everything that my cynical self types. That said, I think it's completely unbelievable that devs would actually charge any VIP for powersets. BTW did you know Andy is a NOOB, so his main interest is to keep the ship afloat. W00t, no cuss words!


 

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I wouldn't mind if the freebie was a Super Pack every week.
Indeed. And then everyone would be getting 5 random items with no 'extra engineering' necessary. On the other hand, the random item pool would be smaller. I'd just be happy for the chance to get the costume set without having to pay a random amount of money for it.


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And furthermore, and this is my opinion nay-sayers, but I think 'Freedom' is the worst thing to happen to CoX and therefore any 'sale' or featured items are worthless. And again grammar nuts or anyone who loves CoX, this is my opinion so blame me for everything that my cynical self types.
That's nice. Not that it's required, but perhaps it'd be nice if you provided reasons why you think so (since that's how one, y'know, presents their side of an argument).

But at least this way, the worst anyone can think is that you're the equivalent of a three year old pouting and saying "I don't like X!" despite the fact that he's been eating X for months with no complaint thus far. Which basically means we shrug and say "whatever" instead of thinking you're like a terrible person or something, so maybe you've got the right idea after all.


RE: NOOB--the unofficial CoH profanity placeholder is "pancake." Get with the times, dude.

PS, And Zwil is actually pretty awesome. He's very passionate about the game as both a player and an employee, and he's just a really nice guy all around. Sorry if you've got a beef with him, but I'm guessing that's based either on a misunderstanding or something that his superiors made him say.

And either way, making insults directly at another community member can be punishable by having your post moderated up to actually banning your account. Maybe don't do that anymore?


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For the trial run, we’ll be putting the item up at 4:00 PM PDT/7:00 PM EDT/12:00 AM BST this Thursday, May 10th, 2012. The item will be available until the same time (4:00 PM PDT) on Friday, May 11th, 2012. You can find the Freebie Friday item under the “Featured Items” section of the Paragon Market.
OK, so I'm like, totally confused about the time and stuff?

It's 08:20 AM BST Thu May 10th and there is nothing that costs 0 points on the Featured section of the market?

Am I doing it wrong?


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Still got 15:30 to go before the promotion starts, Rabbit. If you're going by BST time, then it's available 12:00AM (midnight) 11 May through 11:59PM that same night.

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They're pretty much confusing and terrible.


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OK, so I'm like, totally confused about the time and stuff?

It's 08:20 AM BST Thu May 10th and there is nothing that costs 0 points on the Featured section of the market?

Am I doing it wrong?
Are you seriously asking, such that it would *not* seem ridiculous to explain that the date must-needs be linked to the earliest listed time in the selection of time zones, and said time is the PDT time and the associated BST must therefore be on Friday the 11th?

Perhaps, to avoid confusion, they should do like train stations and such and roll back the time 1 minute. Then it would be 3:59 PM PDT/6:59 PM EDT/11:59 PM BST.


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random free item!

ok if you pick it it will not be random, as i am assuming the item of the week will be reviewed.

how about making all the items avail every week and have the RNG pick it?

ok time for my meds now

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Perhaps, to avoid confusion, they should do like train stations and such and roll back the time 1 minute. Then it would be 3:59 PM PDT/6:59 PM EDT/11:59 PM BST.
Totes what I do on the Paragon Market discussion thread and spreadsheet linked in my sig.

(I also just list everything in Pacific and make everyone else convert the time for themselves... including me, since I'm in the Eastern time zone.)




And since I just said "totes" instead of "totally," I should probably go to bed.


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At this point, I would welcome a banning for complaining about a Redname. The only real beef I have w/ Andy is when someone was complaining about Freedom making more money for the devs (not me) knowing that Andy was online and listening, Andy joked about swimming in a pool of money like Scrooge McDuck. It seems as if he makes everthing a joke. Yes this is a game for having fun, but taunting customers, VIP or not, does not sit right w/ me. I however do share the sentiment that Freedom has shifted some focus away from the game and therefore is detremental to development. Again these are my OPINIONS and you may agree or disagree with them and I encourage anyone, especially Rednames to express their own opinions about Freedom and what I consider a gimmick of worthless freebies.


 

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I forgot to mention, a person was complaining in the Help channel shortly after which Andy taunted them alluding to himself swimming in money like Scrooge McDuck. It certainly wasn't 'helpful'. Very shortly afterward he disconnected


 

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The only real beef I have w/ Andy is when someone was complaining about Freedom making more money for the devs (not me) knowing that Andy was online and listening, Andy joked about swimming in a pool of money like Scrooge McDuck. It seems as if he makes everthing a joke. Yes this is a game for having fun, but taunting customers, VIP or not, does not sit right w/ me.
I always complain when the people who are running the game make money off of it rather than get driven into poverty by it. Because it means I'm more likely to be able to keep playing the game, and I certainly don't want that.

But putting aside the ridiculousness of the complaint, that response hardly seems like a taunt. Maybe if he grunted and gestured with his hand afterward...


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I will agree it certainly isn't a harsh taunt but still inappropriate for someone like him to reproach in a sarcastic manner. I know that the devs aren't getting rich off of Freedom but I am curious as to what my subscription fee is going towards and why new powersets cost me points/money.


 

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Ahem. Though, offering actual questions:

I am wondering what the limits are on what is going to be in the pool for this thing. Enhancements? Inspirations? Costume pieces? Is there going to be that one in a hundred thousand or whatever chance that we might get something -big- out of this, like an enhancement tray or costume set or something like that? And if it's the desired goal to have it pull out something different for each person, is there a possibility we could miss out if it happens to pull out something we already have? Or are the only things on the table going to be rewards you can have more than one of? (like no costume piece unlocks, because once you have one of those, you can't get another of the same one, but enhancements might be on the table since you can always own an extra LOTG or something and pass it off to an alt? Just some of the things I'm wondering about.

I have these same questions. I have bought a lot of stuff on the market. Costumes! Inventory expansions! Powersets! Etc. How random is random, what's included/excluded in the freebie pool? I'm expecting lots of consumables to be the free stuff but I would not argue in the least if permanents were included.


 

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The only real beef I have w/ Andy is when someone was complaining about Freedom making more money for the devs (not me) knowing that Andy was online and listening, Andy joked about swimming in a pool of money like Scrooge McDuck. It seems as if he makes everthing a joke. Yes this is a game for having fun, but taunting customers, VIP or not, does not sit right w/ me.
Fair enough. If it bothers you, it bothers you. I think that's largely inoffensive (and actually pretty funny), and I know it's absolutely NOT the case in real life, but I do understand how someone might be offended that they're making light of the funds that players are giving them.

I can't say I understand how you think Freedom is shifting focus away from the game, though, since we're getting access to more stuff than ever added to the game (7 new costume sets [2 free to VIPs] and 7 new power sets [2 free to VIPs] that are like 80% awesome at least, not to mention the other stuff like new travel powers and pets). I do realize that you think all that stuff should be included in your subscription cost, but A) costumes have been available for real money since before your forum account was registered, so this is by no means a new thing, and B) we'd maybe have gotten those 2 VIP power sets added in, with the the others being saved for another $50 box expansion (if we ever got them at all).

Being bothered about the store is fine and all, but don't expect them to change their minds and start giving you all the store items for free when the overwhelming player response has been, "Sure, it's fair to pay a few extra bucks here and there for cool new stuff."

And you'd be remiss if you failed to take into account that the monthly Paragon Point stipend is effectively a cumulative $5 gift card you get for free every month to spend on whatever you want in their store (be it power sets or costumes or super packs or literally any of the 1200 items in there). That was NOT there before Freedom--the ONLY option for getting the bonus costume items was to drop extra cash, there was no option to wait a month or two to pick something up with bonus gift cards.



And as far as not liking the Freebie Fridays thing, dude... you're complaining about getting free stuff. Not "I'm paying $15 a month and getting a Paragon Reward Token and 400 Paragon Points" free. LITERALLY, COMPLETELY free. People who aren't paying a VIP subscription get the free stuff too.

You DO realize that there is absolutely no way you're going to look good complaining about getting something for free, right?


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I know that the devs aren't getting rich off of Freedom but I am curious as to what my subscription fee is going towards and why new powersets cost me points/money.
Pretty much because they hired extra people to get them cranked out at a higher priority, since "not enough new power sets" was one of the biggest reasons that players kept irregular subscriptions. Lack of endgame content was another such reason, and... oh look, that's been a huge priority in the last few issues as well.

(Seriously, straight up no comment on PVP stuff though. Not something I want to get into at 4:00 AM, nor does it have anything at all to do with Freedom.)


And also, whether you like it or not, Paragon Studios is working on a new, second project unrelated to City of Heroes, and the Freedom revenue is helping them develop that. I will admit to being less than happy that I'm specifically funding something they won't tell us anything about except that it is absolutely NOT superhero-related... But they're still dropping serious coin on getting cool new stuff put in CoH faster, which means I have more to do, which makes me spend more money on the game, so they're obviously doing something right.


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I'll say the main reason I do no like free stuff is that I have no use for it. If anything, the non-combat pets add to an already-cluttered temp power section, which could, if for only a split-second, affect gameplay of getting a temp power such as the Orestes Rifle. And I may be the minority, but I do not care for any new costumes, super packs, or anything else. I would be content wearing solid color spandex if that meant the game worked correctly. Yes, perhaps I should unsubscribe, but I do like many of the people who play the game regardless of anyone who designs it. I do not hate Freebie Fridays, just the thought of receiving a silly present instead of the devs focusing seriously on something like PvP.


 

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Again forgot to say, almost everything I say is an opinion, so don't take it personal. I am a very cynical person and just like the game the way it was.


 

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I do not hate Freebie Fridays, just the thought of receiving a silly present instead of the devs focusing seriously on something like PvP.
PVP is like an infinity-edged sword at this point; WHEN (not if) they start messing with it again, it's going to cut everybody involved.

Also, I'm pretty sure the marketing and community guys that run the store and website and put Freebie Friday together are far from qualified to start messing around with how powers work and stuff. Likewise, the power development team and the coders who actually make things work inside the game probably had no reason to touch Freebie Friday at all (and therefore didn't).

And finally, whether you use the freebie or not, I guarantee you that you absolutely can use it. They're not giving us an "everybody but kburd doohickey" (where doohickey is obviously intended to be substituted for whatever the free item we're all getting in 14:30 will be). Maybe it's a free XP Booster that you can use to level up a new character faster, maybe it's some Dual/Team/Dual-Team Inspirations that can help you through a tough spot, or maybe it's a Super Pack and you get 5 random things for opening it.

If you don't want to use it, that's on you, not them.

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Again forgot to say, almost everything I say is an opinion, so don't take it personal. I am a very cynical person and just like the game the way it was.
Fair enough. I did, too, and I was freaking terrified when they first made the CoH:Freedom announcement. Then, of course, the shock wore off, and I spent the next few months absorbing absolutely every bit of Freedom info I could get my virtual hands on.

As it stands now, I really don't think being a VIP subscriber now is that functionally different from being a regular pre-Freedom subscriber. I absolutely do like that we have way more options for upgrading our accounts beyond "regular subscriber" than we used to. But options are, by definition, optional, so it's up to you whether or not you apply your personal resources to them.



(Seriously, didn't I say an hour ago I was going to bed? What the pancake is wrong with me?)


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