Discussion: Salute to Statesman Loyalty Rewards on April 18th!
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Posted on: 2012-04-16 10:51 in News, Events and Announcement Discussion
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Originally Posted by DumpleBerry
I was wrong, and concede my argument. There are people who are passionate about the loyalty program.
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People who've stayed subscribed with no payment issues should get something. That's a pretty amazing feat. I've been playing the game for five years, and had some lasped sub time.. So I may not get the reward. But I certainly won't begrudge people who do get it.
They earned it.
But big hairy deal, if I don't. My sub lapsed and I let it go for awhile. So I probably won't qualify.
The whole point of a loyalty program is reward the folks that stuck it out with COH with no breaks in their payment history.
Not everyone is entitled to everything, just because you want it. That being said, I've been greedily eyeing that Statesman Chest Logo for years! If it's offered sometime later on the market..I'd be inclined to buy it! :-)
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Let me try an analogy. Your favorite sandwich shop starts a "Buy 10, Get One Free" program. You love their sandwiches, so you get one of the cards, and regularly spend your $5 on their sandwiches. |
Originally Posted by Night_Hornet
Sadly I think that you are both missing my point.
If the items are offered as an incentive to remain a loyal customer (and no I didn't subscribe just to obtain them) then what benefit do loyal customers get if the items are then offered to all a much lower cost? Basically it negates the whole idea of it being a Loyalty Reward, doesn't it? They may as well have not offered it in the first place? |
Then the day comes that you take your completed card in and get your free sandwich. After you order, the guy behind you in line orders the same sandwich, and they charge him $5. Would you be upset, and insist that they charge him $50, because that's how much you spent to get your free sandwich?
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That's a good analogy.|
Originally Posted by mousedroid
Let me try an analogy. Your favorite sandwich shop starts a "Buy 10, Get One Free" program. You love their sandwiches, so you get one of the cards, and regularly spend your $5 on their sandwiches.
Then the day comes that you take your completed card in and get your free sandwich. After you order, the guy behind you in line orders the same sandwich, and they charge him $5. Would you be upset, and insist that they charge him $50, because that's how much you spent to get your free sandwich? |
But I'll see your sandwich and raise you a TV
One day you go into a shop a buy a TV that you have been saving up for months, then the customer behind you is told they can order the same TV next week for a tenth of the price, do you feel ripped off?
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Not in the least. The other guy either talked a salesman down, knows someone at the store personally, or maybe even related to the owner or some other reason that got him the lower price.|
Originally Posted by Night_Hornet
That's a good analogy.
But I'll see your sandwich and raise you a TV One day you go into a shop a buy a TV that you have been saving up for months, then the customer behind you is told they can order the same TV next week for a tenth of the price, do you feel ripped off? |
Could be a coupon from a magazine that I don't get. I dunno, nor do I care.
Do you get upset that other people get X cents/dollars off of a product with a coupon when you yourself don't have that coupon?
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Probably. But if that same customer behind me had to wait an additional 6 months before he/she could buy that TV for 1/10 the price I probably wouldn't care less...|
Originally Posted by Night_Hornet
One day you go into a shop a buy a TV that you have been saving up for months, then the customer behind you is told they can order the same TV next week for a tenth of the price, do you feel ripped off?
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Ultimately I rather these things eventually be available to everyone in the long run than to worry about any supposed "elitist exclusivity" that would last forever.
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Yes, I would, but that's because they would be getting the same thing I'm getting for one tenth the price I'm paying. That's not what is happening with these loyalty rewards - hypothetically speaking, anyone who would be able to buy them in the future would be paying for something that I am getting for free as a result of my paying for something else.
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Originally Posted by Night_Hornet
That's a good analogy.
But I'll see your sandwich and raise you a TV One day you go into a shop a buy a TV that you have been saving up for months, then the customer behind you is told they can order the same TV next week for a tenth of the price, do you feel ripped off? |
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See, that's NOT a good analogy, because that's not what's going on.|
Originally Posted by Night_Hornet
One day you go into a shop a buy a TV that you have been saving up for months, then the customer behind you is told they can order the same TV next week for a tenth of the price, do you feel ripped off?
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What's actually happening is that you bought the TV on a payment plan and have been paying it off for a while, then while you're in the store making a payment (sure, why not? >_>), the next person in line is buying the same TV you've had for the last few years at a third (not a tenth) of the price you've been paying. Oh, and your remaining balance to pay off the TV gets cut to 1/3 of what it was as well.
What you've done boils down to paying an early adopter fee. You got to enjoy the product for longer, but ended up paying more as a result.
And let's face it... this TV is pretty kick-***.
EDIT: Hrm, think I got some wires crossed and thought this argument was about the difference between pre- and post-Freedom players, largely because it doesn't make sense as part of the discussion that it spawned from. So, neeeevermind. >_>
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Actually I think that both analogies are good they just express different viewpoints isnt that what a discussion thread should be about?
I should say this, I really couldnt care less about the exclusivity of the items, I have no interest in this kind of vanity, but I do care about fairness.
It just seems inherently wrong to me to offer Loyalty Rewards when the loyal customers could be viewed (on some levels at least) to be disadvantaged in the future in some way.
Of course this is just my own opinion....but then maybe I cant see the wood for the trees
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But how are loyal customers being disadvantaged in the future?|
Originally Posted by Night_Hornet
It just seems inherently wrong to me to offer Loyalty Rewards when the loyal customers could be viewed (on some levels at least) to be disadvantaged in the future in some way.
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I didn't lose anything in anyway when the Preorder Arachnos Helmets were made available in the VIP Rewards (in fact, I gained from it, since I got access to the helmets I didn't have).
I haven't lost anything when the Vanguard costume parts were put on the market. The non-loyalty programmers had to pay for each part. I didn't. So no loss there.
I'm curious as to how I'm being disadvantaged for keeping my sub going.
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