The devs are looking into what can be done. Last I heard, the "frontrunner" of all ideas being discussed was to allow us to at least transfer them to other characters on the same account... unfortunately, there's no way to account-bind salvage (it can only be marked as "untradable"), so the workaround will likely be to let us turn it in to incarnate merit vendors in Ouroboros and have a new one sent to us via global email.
But none of that is confirmed or promised yet, just what's sounding like the most likely action.
FUN FACT: That burst of light when you level up is actually the effectiveness escaping from your enhancements all at once.
The best thing you can do with it right now is catalyze ATOs you have slotted in your toon, use enhancement unslotters on those superior ATOs, use enhancement converters til you get the ones you want, the gleemail those to the toon you need them on.
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The decision to have these marked so they cannot be traded was one of the most shortsighted horrible decisions these guys have made in a bit concerning QOL. I mean one or two sessions on BETA would have shown just how insane it is to have locked these things up like they are now.|
Originally Posted by hidbyflames
i have 13 catalyst for atos i have no need for them think they will ever let us sell them or even make a ato superior and lets us sell it?
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Bugger.
The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.
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Or if you have a character of the same archetype that could use them, you can do the same thing without burning converters.
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Originally Posted by DreadShinobi
The best thing you can do with it right now is catalyze ATOs you have slotted in your toon, use enhancement unslotters on those superior ATOs, use enhancement converters til you get the ones you want, the gleemail those to the toon you need them on.
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I've been Catalyzing and popping them out for other characters, but I never even thought of converting them - for some reason it hadn't dawned on me that you could do that with Superior ATOs.|
Originally Posted by DreadShinobi
The best thing you can do with it right now is catalyze ATOs you have slotted in your toon, use enhancement unslotters on those superior ATOs, use enhancement converters til you get the ones you want, the gleemail those to the toon you need them on.
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I assume that if you do a rarity conversion on Superior ATOs, they stay Superior ATOs, without reverting to normal ones, or becoming "normal" purples?
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Originally Posted by Roderick
I've been Catalyzing and popping them out for other characters, but I never even thought of converting them - for some reason it hadn't dawned on me that you could do that with Superior ATOs.
I assume that if you do a rarity conversion on Superior ATOs, they stay Superior ATOs, without reverting to normal ones, or becoming "normal" purples? |
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Correct, if you convert them they stay superior.
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Originally Posted by Roderick
I assume that if you do a rarity conversion on Superior ATOs, they stay Superior ATOs, without reverting to normal ones, or becoming "normal" purples?
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Seriously? You have 4 links there and none directly mention what he was asking about. Do you think your reply was more helpful than "Yes" or "No"?
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While I believe a simple yes/no answer would have been more helpful, the question is answered on the "Spreadsheet o' Enhancements".
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Seriously? You have 4 links there and none directly mention what he was asking about. Do you think your reply was more helpful than "Yes" or "No"?
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I trust Roderick would have figured out the link with "enhancements" in it would answer his question about converting enhancements, especially since I'm pretty sure he's already aware of the spreadsheet.
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Originally Posted by Ironblade
Seriously? You have 4 links there and none directly mention what he was asking about. Do you think your reply was more helpful than "Yes" or "No"?
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Yes, I was able to figure out that you were directing me to the link that takes me to an error message, because Google Docs don't open on the phone I use for most of my forum browsing.|
Originally Posted by Zombie Man
I trust Roderick would have figured out the link with "enhancements" in it would answer his question about converting enhancements, especially since I'm pretty sure he's already aware of the spreadsheet.
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I would have pointed out that your "response" did nothing to answer my question, but DreadShinobi had already answered by the time I saw yours, so I didn't bother. Since the topic has been brought up, I will point out that "Yes. See the link in my sig for more details" would have been infinitely more useful.
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I wouldn't mind being able to use them to buy other more useful things, such as converters.
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That makes sense, I would support it for sure.
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Originally Posted by MrHassenpheffer
I wouldn't mind being able to use them to buy other more useful things, such as converters.
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The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.
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It does seem a little peculiar that they allow ATO's to be traded but not Cata's. When they were implemented they did not have any plans to allow them to drop so it could be that the way they were implemented stops them from being able to be added as a tradeable item.
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Originally Posted by Darth_Khasei
The decision to have these marked so they cannot be traded was one of the most shortsighted horrible decisions these guys have made in a bit concerning QOL. I mean one or two sessions on BETA would have shown just how insane it is to have locked these things up like they are now.
Bugger. |
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Yeah, that's the horrible decision of which I spoke lol.
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Originally Posted by _Klaw_
It does seem a little peculiar that they allow ATO's to be traded but not Cata's. When they were implemented they did not have any plans to allow them to drop so it could be that the way they were implemented stops them from being able to be added as a tradeable item.
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The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.
Ah, gotcha.
How about instead of having catalysts drop as salvage normally, the game instead treats them as having been 'purchased' from the market and e-mails them to your account as character items. That way they'd be effectively account bound without having to code salvage as being account bound.
Disclaimer: Since I don't know squat about the game's coding I realize that this may be not be feasible.
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I will keep this in mind next time.
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Yes, I was able to figure out that you were directing me to the link that takes me to an error message, because Google Docs don't open on the phone I use for most of my forum browsing.
I would have pointed out that your "response" did nothing to answer my question, but DreadShinobi had already answered by the time I saw yours, so I didn't bother. Since the topic has been brought up, I will point out that "Yes. See the link in my sig for more details" would have been infinitely more useful. |
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Okay, I was playing my scrapper and converted a Tanker's Might ATO, which converted it to a Scrapper's Strike.
Now, I didn't extensively test this, but if they automatically convert to the set you can use, wouldn't it make sense to gleemail them before you convert them?
Disclaimer: I don't know for sure if it works like that because I only did it once, so it is entirely possible I just got lucky in getting one I could use.
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You just got lucky.
This all sounds far too complication and wonky to qualify as "the way the devs ment it to work". I hope a more sensible method is implemented by the devs soon.
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I fail to understand that problem. Attuned set enhancements you buy in the paragon market are account bound and can be emailed to yourself but not traded or placed in the auction house. So "there's no way to account bind salvage" is a crock if you ask me. If they can do it with shop purchased enhancements, they should be able to do it with salvage.
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Originally Posted by Doctor Roswell
The devs are looking into what can be done. Last I heard, the "frontrunner" of all ideas being discussed was to allow us to at least transfer them to other characters on the same account... unfortunately, there's no way to account-bind salvage (it can only be marked as "untradable"), so the workaround will likely be to let us turn it in to incarnate merit vendors in Ouroboros and have a new one sent to us via global email.
But none of that is confirmed or promised yet, just what's sounding like the most likely action. |
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You got lucky. Converters don't convert an enhancement to something you can use, they randomly convert an enhancement to something else of the same rarity/type/set (depending on which type of conversion you select in the Convert window). The only thing you were guaranteed to get when you performed this specific conversion was "an ATO that's not from the Might of the Tanker set."|
Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect
Okay, I was playing my scrapper and converted a Tanker's Might ATO, which converted it to a Scrapper's Strike.
Now, I didn't extensively test this, but if they automatically convert to the set you can use, wouldn't it make sense to gleemail them before you convert them? Disclaimer: I don't know for sure if it works like that because I only did it once, so it is entirely possible I just got lucky in getting one I could use. |
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Originally Posted by monkeyslap
I fail to understand that problem. Attuned set enhancements you buy in the paragon market are account bound and can be emailed to yourself but not traded or placed in the auction house. So "there's no way to account bind salvage" is a crock if you ask me. If they can do it with shop purchased enhancements, they should be able to do it with salvage.
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Basically, it's not just flipping a switch from "on" to "off," it's installing a whole new switch. Not impossible by any means, but a lot more time, money and work.
To me, it points more to "catalysts should never have been made salvage in the first place" than anything else.
FUN FACT: That burst of light when you level up is actually the effectiveness escaping from your enhancements all at once.
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Salvage was actually added in issue 6 for bases and was originally designed to only be used in that specific system. The Invention system was added in issue 9.
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Originally Posted by Doctor Roswell
Enhancements and salvage work differently on the back-end. You have to remember, salvage was added to the game when inventions and the auction house were implemented (what was that, issue 7 or so?) , and was only ever designed to be a part of those specific systems
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i have 13 catalyst for atos i have no need for them think they will ever let us sell them or even make a ato superior and lets us sell it?