Why do they keep using Clown Summon as JOKE?


Aneko

 

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Originally Posted by Paladiamors View Post
Is there anything else clown related powerset wise in this game?
You mean aside from the whole circus based villian group that could do with some clowns to be really creepy?

I enjoyed the joke, but would love the powerset to be made. It just sounds downright fun, and isn't that what it's all about?


 

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Originally Posted by Diggis View Post
You mean aside from the whole circus based villian group that could do with some clowns to be really creepy?

I enjoyed the joke, but would love the powerset to be made. It just sounds downright fun, and isn't that what it's all about?
The Carnival of Light is NOTHING like the described powerset, and has nothing to do with hu-...MOSTLY nothing to do with humor at all. Had a "Carnival of Light MM" been the requested, that I would have been able to take seriously.

Some one else said it best: This should have ended with Aneko and Darkgobs posts.


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The Carnival of Light is NOTHING like the described powerset, and has nothing to do with hu-...MOSTLY nothing to do with humor at all. Had a "Carnival of Light MM" been the requested, that I would have been able to take seriously.

Some one else said it best: This should have ended with Aneko and Darkgobs posts.
No, but a clown summoning set done seriously could easily be made to work with the carnival groups (light and shadows).

Plus clowns have nothing to do with humour either....


 

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Originally Posted by Diggis View Post
Plus clowns have nothing to do with humour either....
Lon Chaney : "A clown may be amusing in a circus ring, but what would be your reaction to opening your door and finding that same clown on your front step at midnight?"


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For a Clown Mastermind primary to be justified it'd have to offer something that other sets don't. This means every little thing they did would have to be clown-based. It'd also be pretty jarring if you wanted a "Creepy" clown and only got Happy clowns or sad ones(and vice versa, or even a mix when all you want is one type), even more so now that "Mastermind" no longer equates to "Villain", meaning it would most likely be best to err on the side of clowns presented "straight"(I.e. funny) and not subverted in any way (I.E. "Sad", "Scary", or "Juggalo") So everything about a clown set would have to be traditionaly clowny. Your clowns couldn't use guns, couldn't punch or kick normaly, couldn't use swords, couldn't use hammers in any style other than cartoonish and squeaky. It'd have to be pies and joybuzzers and seltzer sprays all the way.

Otherwise it'd be seen as(and mostly would be) just a re-paint of Thugs or Mercs or Ninja. That doesn't serve the needs of MOST people wanting to use clowns as a concept, let alone the entire rest of the Mastermind-Playing population. Clowns as a mastermind concept is more suited to customization of any of the existing "Human" sets than it is it's own powerset with it's own mechanics and whatnot.

Edit: At the end of the day, Clowns are just dudes in outfits and make-up.

They don't REALLY have special powers, outside of jokes and comedic settings. This game's main powersets have been based on thematically serious, or at the very least thematically neutral, concepts. Making such a fuss about there being no Clown MM primary is akin to being annoyed there's no "all Cats" or "all wolves" Beast Mastery MM primary or no "all swords" ninja MM primary. It's either a minor quibble about style or a demand that the game completely shifts gears and art direction for a very minor desire. Clown masterminds is something best left in the realm of customizing pets because all it really would be, in this game, is a different kind of Thug, Merc, or Ninja. Everyobdy wins if we all get to customize our thugs mercs and ninjas.

Possibly more than half of clown-concept advocates lose if they made a clown mastery set, and the rest of the community gets nothing.


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I would gladly buy Crown set if they can make it funny and interesting. I would love to see a lot of random joke attacks like you throw out a gift box and it has random effects.


What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.

 

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Since the OP has been cross-posting to the official Featured Items thread, this one can safely die.


'I don't like the look of it at all,' said the King: 'however, it may kiss my hand if it likes.'
'I'd rather not,' the Cat remarked.
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Originally Posted by Electric-Knight View Post
It's a direct squirt of seltzer to the face!!
A swift kick in the clown jewels!


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I saw that and my first reaction was to laugh. My second reaction was, "I want a clown MM!"

This is way too funny and way too appealing! Even though I'm a paying citizen, I'd still pay money for clowns.

Eve


 

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Originally Posted by DarkGob View Post
I think it's pretty telling that both people in this thread who are taking this so "seriously" have "PvP Bootcamp Mentor" as a title.

Move along folks, nothing to see here.

Curious as to what you mean by this? Surely, you aren't being prejudice against a poster just because of a forum title they have, or that the forum title has the letters P v P in it?

If you agree with the OP or not, its petty to just dismiss their feelings or concerns.

To Aneko: Im also not sure why you have such hostility to the OP or this thread. Just remember that under the forum rules and guidelines:

2. Abuse and disrespectful behavior are not tolerated.


I would think that attacking a poster due to their forum name would fall under this.


 

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Originally Posted by Aneko View Post
I read your complaint. I read your name. Let's just leave it at that.
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I think it's pretty telling that both people in this thread who are taking this so "seriously" have "PvP Bootcamp Mentor" as a title.

Move along folks, nothing to see here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
""An ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"), short for argumentum ad hominem, is an attempt to negate the truth of a claim by pointing out a negative characteristic or belief of the person supporting it.[1] Ad hominem reasoning is normally described as a logical fallacy.[2][3][4]""


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Originally Posted by DarkGob View Post
I think it's pretty telling that both people in this thread who are taking this so "seriously" have "PvP Bootcamp Mentor" as a title.

Move along folks, nothing to see here.
Sorry, don't get this remark at all, that means they work hard introducing PvE players to PvP (including IIRC some devs or community reps), they do a lot for this community, what do you do ?


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Originally Posted by The_Masque View Post
To Aneko: Im also not sure why you have such hostility to the OP or this thread.
Show me where I was "hostile".

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I would think that attacking a poster due to their forum name would fall under this.
Show me where I "attacked".


'I don't like the look of it at all,' said the King: 'however, it may kiss my hand if it likes.'
'I'd rather not,' the Cat remarked.
'Don't be impertinent,' said the King, 'and don't look at me like that!' He got behind Alice as he spoke.
'A cat may look at a king,' said Alice.

 

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Originally Posted by Aneko View Post
Show me where I was "hostile".

Show me where I "attacked".
OK.

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Originally Posted by Pimpstress_Bambi View Post
I think it is in poor taste
I read your complaint. I read your name. Let's just leave it at that.


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Originally Posted by Roderick View Post
OK.
I had no idea you were also The_Masque.


'I don't like the look of it at all,' said the King: 'however, it may kiss my hand if it likes.'
'I'd rather not,' the Cat remarked.
'Don't be impertinent,' said the King, 'and don't look at me like that!' He got behind Alice as he spoke.
'A cat may look at a king,' said Alice.

 

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Just because it was someone else besides the person you were talking to that pointed out where you had done something doesn't mean they were wrong. If you want a private conversation on the forums, PMs work better.

So...



Also if I were a dev I would only put clown summoning into the game if I could add Banjo the Clown to the list of ascended beings.


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Originally Posted by Crim_the_Cold View Post
Just because it was someone else besides the person you were talking to that pointed out where you had done something doesn't mean they were wrong.
But it does make their answer irrelevant.


'I don't like the look of it at all,' said the King: 'however, it may kiss my hand if it likes.'
'I'd rather not,' the Cat remarked.
'Don't be impertinent,' said the King, 'and don't look at me like that!' He got behind Alice as he spoke.
'A cat may look at a king,' said Alice.

 

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Originally Posted by Aneko View Post
I had no idea you were also The_Masque.
You think only the Masque can come to the conclusion that your statement was an attack? What WAS it designed to do? Calling someone out by pointing to their specific username and then saying it basically invalidates what they say.

Are you trying to make someone feel GOOD? It doesn't look like it.

It is not NEUTRAL, either. It is very specific to that one username. What does that leave?

Are you saying anything about the subject of the conversation, ie Clown Summoning as a joke or in the game? Only if you define "I looked at your complaint" very broadly.

So, if it is not an attack, what is it? What is that statement adding?


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But it does make their answer irrelevant.
...WOW...

OK, have fun.


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I happened to think that Aneko's comment about the name and the comment was quite funny and worthy of saying.
Classifying it as an attack is... almost as bad as getting upset about clown henchmen being used as part of the April Fools joke.

Seems everyone here could use a nice cold seltzer in the face.


(And, for the record, I would absolutely like to see a clownish MM option. I think there's enough precedence for such a thing and it could be a worthwhile approach [although, I think MM's big problem is lack of customization and more niche options like this might not be the right direction]... but I didn't take them joking about it as anything but funny).


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Originally Posted by Electric-Knight View Post
I happened to think that Aneko's comment about the name and the comment was quite funny and worthy of saying.
Thank you.

Some people seem to have missed where, after I implied that I don't consult "pimps" on matters of taste, the OP commented that the phrase "poor taste" was used because someone recommended not using "poor customer service".

That person didn't seem particularly offended by my post, so there's probably no reason for these random, uninvolved people to be raising such a fuss.


'I don't like the look of it at all,' said the King: 'however, it may kiss my hand if it likes.'
'I'd rather not,' the Cat remarked.
'Don't be impertinent,' said the King, 'and don't look at me like that!' He got behind Alice as he spoke.
'A cat may look at a king,' said Alice.

 

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Originally Posted by Aneko View Post
I had no idea you were also The_Masque.
He's not, both are respected but different members of the Victoryverse AFAIK.


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Just give thugs a juggalo alt skin and boom.


 

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Originally Posted by Minotaur View Post
different members of the Victoryverse AFAIK.
Correct.

Wait...

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respected
Masque, maybe. Me...?


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