Yes it's been suggested before.
No it would not be too powerful.
Devs gave us more slots.
Someone will come by with a copypasta of mine, I'm sure.
Short form:
It's one of the few things that we've gotten a just flat out "no" about. Not "It would be too hard" or "It would take too long," but just a flat out "no." And for years, with changing devs.
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And honestly, with Freedom and the Paragon market, there's even less reason for them to. I mean, they can either develop and come up with this full-respec token (possibly breaking... well, many things,) or sell you:
- Another slot, if you want to alt and keep the old one around "just in case,"
- Supertailor access (I think purchasable, or as part of another purchase) if the body type/gender isn't what you want
- Possibly the powerset you actually want to play
- Rename token.
Financially? Less risk, more reward to push you into buying those items.
Just in case nobody can produce the standard copy and paste for this request...
The main reason why:
It would be to lucrative to take a set that excels from 1-30 but then slows down, then switch to another set that would've struggled 1-30 but excels in the 30-50 game. Allowing you to breeze to 50 with an AT, just to get there and switch to a new AT that would've been harder to level.
Then you have the issues of not knowing how to play your brand new 50 tank, when he was a blaster for 49 of those levels...
Yeah, not gonna happen ever.
Don't take this the wrong way, it's nothing personal. We've just seen this one suggestion somewhere on the magnitude of once a week for 7 years straight. 
I think the only suggestion that is brought up as frequently, only to be systematically slammed back down, would be vehicles. (Yeah by the by, don't suggest that. It tends to get some vets riled up a bit more than most suggestions.)
Edited to add: I do like your name for it though, Retcon. In hindsight they should have called Respecs, which is short for respecification (for those unaware) Retcon instead, to keep with the comic theme. 
Maestro Mavius - Infinity
Capt. Biohazrd - PCSAR
Talsor Tech - Talsorian Guard
Keep Calm & Chive On!
I wonder how long it will take for someone to pop in with the "But I don't want to lose my badges" argument.
IIRC i recall a dev (posi i believe) saying that powersets are hardcoded at character creation and giving us the ability to change them would be a monumental task that would not be worth the effort
I'm a bit sceptical about that. Also a lot has changed since then particularly xp smoothing and power balancing so I don't think the old excuses apply any more. I also notice that every time I respec with weapon sets there's a "now have blah access at the tailor" message so I don't think that would be an issue either. They really should have another look at it cause it would probably sell quite well.
Not gonna happen....
This has been asked for years now and has been shot down every time a dev has replied to the request.
I do not have the cut/paste, but fully agree with it's contents for the numerous reasons a super respec is a bad idea.
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Originally Posted by Paladiamors
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I don't recall ever seeing a dev say that. If there's a link I'd love to see it cuz that's totally different from what I've seen them say in the past.|
Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master
IIRC i recall a dev (posi i believe) saying that powersets are hardcoded at character creation and giving us the ability to change them would be a monumental task that would not be worth the effort
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What I recall them saying was a flat out no they wouldn't consider it, and that they designed the game to be alt friendly so if players wanted to try out new power sets they should create a new character.
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Originally Posted by _Klaw_
. I also notice that every time I respec with weapon sets there's a "now have blah access at the tailor" message so I don't think that would be an issue either.
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*confused*
Don't want to be a party pooper here,
but Retcon is already used in another MMO.
Champions Online uses "Retcons"
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
I don't recall ever seeing a dev say that. If there's a link I'd love to see it cuz that's totally different from what I've seen them say in the past.
What I recall them saying was a flat out no they wouldn't consider it, and that they designed the game to be alt friendly so if players wanted to try out new power sets they should create a new character. |
the powerset respec idea is one of those that seems to come up quite often so i have been having difficulty finding it
edit: heres a post that prolly helps, this was from a thread thats dated 8/4/2011, not exactly how i remember it but the basic idea is that the devs are still not considering powerset respecs
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Thanks! I apreciate what you found. I don't really follow Ustreams so now I see why I don't recall it, AND (lol) after checking the thread you linked I see I actually posted in it back in August. I also see that Arcanaville also popped in and corrected the post Je_Saist made about what Positron actually said on the Ustream.|
Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master
if i can dig it up again ill gladly quote it, i dont remember the exact dev who said it but i recall seeing a dev post on this when the subject came up like 3x all in the same month like a year or so ago
the powerset respec idea is one of those that seems to come up quite often so i have been having difficulty finding it edit: heres a post that prolly helps, this was from a thread thats dated 8/4/2011, not exactly how i remember it but the basic idea is that the devs are still not considering powerset respecs |
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Positron did not say that because powerset respec was a lot of work it was not the development schedule. Positron said powerset respec was not on the development schedule which is dev-speak for "we're not working on it" and separately from that said it would take so much work to implement he had no idea what they could possibly price the feature at (assuming it was a Paragon Store feature).
In jest, he suggested agreement with a suggestion by a ustream comment that suggested $50. Although that was obviously a joke, it nevertheless implies in broad strokes both the level of effort involved and the likelihood we'll be seeing this feature anytime in our foreseeable future. Positron did seem to not be unilaterally opposed to powerset respecs, but that represents only the first of many other non-technical barriers to them being implemented. |
They'll do them when it's profitable enough to do so.
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Step 1) Level every character as a */WP Brute or Scrapper
Step 2) Switch to whatever end game AT and powers you wanted
Step 3) ?
Step 4) Profit
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@Inquisitor
How about limiting to the same AT, but you can change its primary and secondaries (actually what I had in mind).
You can keep asking for it all you like, it won't change the devs minds.
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Originally Posted by Morgleric
How about limiting to the same AT, but you can change its primary and secondaries (actually what I had in mind).
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An AT respec would be even more involved than a powerset respec.
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
How does the game acknowledging costume parts being available have any bearing on completely changing a character's primary and secondary?
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Step 1) Level every character as a */WP Brute or Scrapper
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Originally Posted by _Klaw_
I think everyone agrees switching ATs would be game breaking. Imo in-AT switching wouldn't be.
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The sets that get good at high levels suck at low levels for a reason.
A set like Regeneration peaks at about level 30 and doesn't really get much better than that, while other sets don't start getting really good until level 30.
If they implemented this, you would never see a Regen above level 30, and you'd never see a Shield or Fire below level 30, pretty much ever again.
Part of the balance of those sets is that the better they are at end game levels, the worse they are going to be at low levels, and vice versa. There would be a TON of balancing issues that would need to be addressed in order to prevent people from abusing this idea exactly as I outlined above.
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Many power sets require different tactics. It isn't a simple case of mashing buttons.
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Originally Posted by _Klaw_
I think everyone agrees switching ATs would be game breaking. Imo in-AT switching wouldn't be.
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Yeah I agree like updating AE powersets or fixing the new rabid dog pet AI issues that sprung up after the release of I22.
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
You can keep asking for it all you like, it won't change the devs minds.
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The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
You can keep asking for it all you like, it won't change the devs minds.
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You may end up correct. This particular issue may not change for a long time (even forever). This is still a condescending statement... and nothing more.
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom (or freem?) fighter; just as one man's exploit is another man's feature.
Has this been suggested? allowing people to buy retcon tokens to do a major repick of main/secondaries (or maybe just secondaries).
Would it be too powerful?
Hear me out, sometimes you make a character and have a cool concept in mind, but at the end it doesn't turn out as well as you planned it, or you don't get the "feel" of the set, by then you are about level 35 or 40+ and either end up dumping the poor thing to obscurity or outright deleting it! which is a dissapointment really
What are your thoughts?