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Witch NPC in CoH you want to KILL?

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By Archiviste,
Posted on: 2012-02-29 17:57 in CoH and CoV General Discussions

 

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Originally Posted by CentralNexus View Post
Azuria was the one that always got to me -- Her idea of keeping things "safe" requires a new dictionary. Far too many thefts laid back at her feet -- some eager MAGI official should have taken her job and made sweeping changes YEARS ago. She's got to be a plant by some evil mage group. That's the ONLY thing to explain why she'd still be there after all that.
I'm curious now, how many items has she lost or kept unsafe? I don't remember many missions about things being left unsafe/stolen from vault.

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while my character wouldn't go about killing, I'd say any character that I could beat before that somehow got a power increase with nothing backing it other than "Just because"

So that puts it to Maelstrom. Went from Boss/EB status to AV that requires a trial worth of people to take down.

At least Recluse as an AV tends to require a team of 8 and most who say they took him out usually did it as an EB or really had to get help from friends.

But Maelstrom, this was a solo NPC who became super powerful, no chance to beat solo!

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Azuria was the one that always got to me -- Her idea of keeping things "safe" requires a new dictionary. Far too many thefts laid back at her feet -- some eager MAGI official should have taken her job and made sweeping changes YEARS ago. She's got to be a plant by some evil mage group. That's the ONLY thing to explain why she'd still be there after all that.
Whenever I did the Wheel of Destruction arc, every time I took things to Azuria, I'd say in local "I'd like to have these put under 'Will Call' for the Banished Pantheon" just to see the reaction of any other heroes that happened to be in the room...

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Post witch NPC characters(ANYONE) you want it to die in the last CHAPTER of Who will die and why?
In this order: Ghost Widow, Wretch, Lord Recluse.

I want to see Recluse move in to deal with Wade, and send his people in to attack. Wade, with both his magic toys and Statesman's power, kills Ghost Widow right off the bat.

The others see the "unkillable" Ghost Widow fall, and they run away. Mako, Black Scorpion, Silver Mantis, all of them. Wretch, however, goes berserk and charges in, his fury taking Wade by surprise for a moment.

This gives Recluse enough time to give up on yelling at his minions to get back in there and fight. He turns to see Wretch fall, and realizes that there's no way he alone can take down Wade. So, instead he sacrifices himself to weaken Wade, giving you the opening you need to beat him.

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In this order: Ghost Widow, Wretch, Lord Recluse.

I want to see Recluse move in to deal with Wade, and send his people in to attack. Wade, with both his magic toys and Statesman's power, kills Ghost Widow right off the bat.

The others see the "unkillable" Ghost Widow fall, and they run away. Mako, Black Scorpion, Silver Mantis, all of them. Wretch, however, goes berserk and charges in, his fury taking Wade by surprise for a moment.

This gives Recluse enough time to give up on yelling at his minions to get back in there and fight. He turns to see Wretch fall, and realizes that there's no way he alone can take down Wade. So, instead he sacrifices himself to weaken Wade, giving you the opening you need to beat him.
But... Ghost Widow's already dead... I mean, you can still "kill" her, but all that'll do is dissipate her for awhile until she can reform.

Also, GW is the best and I'd never want to see her get removed. Heck I'd like to see her take over after Recluse gets the axe.

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Originally Posted by CentralNexus View Post
Azuria was the one that always got to me -- Her idea of keeping things "safe" requires a new dictionary. Far too many thefts laid back at her feet -- some eager MAGI official should have taken her job and made sweeping changes YEARS ago. She's got to be a plant by some evil mage group. That's the ONLY thing to explain why she'd still be there after all that.
If I recall correctly, the Magi vault was in Galaxy City, so Azuria wouldn't actually have been the one at fault for those things going missing. All these years she's just been the one taking the blame.

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Maelstrom and Desdemona - Gag reflex from being force fed their extreme power-ups and retcons over a very short period of time.
So much this. Also, I dislike Des more after taking over the Carnival of Light. SHE'S NOT EVEN A PRAETORIAN why on earth is she now leading the Praetorian Resistance? What reason would they have to trust her? It's not like she's played -any- significant role (or any role at all) in their fight for freedom up to that point.

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Halley Phillips
Juliana Nehring
Dr. Ann-Marie Engles
Tristan Caine
Mark Freeman
Jill Pastor
Karen Parker
Pavel Garnier
Guy Denson
Tom Bowden
Justin Greene
Wilson Eziquerra
Kirsten Woods
Lorenzo Tate
Melanie Peebles
Wilma Peterson
Amanda Loomis
Dennis Ewell
Jake Kim
Lou Pasterelli
Merisel Valenzuela

All for being redundant and out-of-the-way.

I don't want to kill Georgia Fields or Justin Greene, just move them closer to the train.

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If I recall correctly, the Magi vault was in Galaxy City, so Azuria wouldn't actually have been the one at fault for those things going missing. All these years she's just been the one taking the blame.
This is accurate. Azuria isn't to blame, so I wish everyone'd get off her back. As far as which NPC I'd kill? It'd probably be the Lichen-Infested War Walker, if I can pick it. Success or failure is so...binary. I can count on one hand the number of times I've been on a trial that got past him. The few that have just blasted right though him without even looking. If it has to be a person or character though, I think I'd off Glacia and/or Infernia. Whichever is the talkative one.

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So much this. Also, I dislike Des more after taking over the Carnival of Light. SHE'S NOT EVEN A PRAETORIAN why on earth is she now leading the Praetorian Resistance? What reason would they have to trust her? It's not like she's played -any- significant role (or any role at all) in their fight for freedom up to that point.
She's Statesman's sidekick, so she can be trusted - plus, she has Vanessa's mask, which is heavily hinted to still have some form of her consciousness in it.

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She's Statesman's sidekick, so she can be trusted.
Hah.. No. Not really no. Alternate realities aside, Statesman is Marcus Cole and Marcus Cole is their bitter enemy. And Desdemona didn't inherit Vanessa's mask. She looted it from her barely cool corpse.

Sorry, seeing the "sidekick" of an alternate, supposedly good version of my hated enemy wearing the belongings of my recently departed and likely beloved leader doesn't instill truth in me. It would instill rage. Speaking as a Carnie o' Light, of course. I personally just wish Desdemona would find clothes that actually fit

 

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Westin Phipps.

Evil is one thing. That kind of completely psychotic child murdering evil is another thing entirely.

I'd like to feed him into a very slow wood chipper feet first.
Thing is, I think he'd go out feeling vindicated in having gotten you to do it that way.

He never specifically comes across with "join the dark side, Luke" kind of evil, but he's just so damn into spreading despair that I think he'd take pleasure in the notion that he'd gotten someone to kill him like that, just for the idea that they'd probably do other bad things later having crossed that line.

Unless, of course, you were already across that line, in which case he'd probably figure it was just bad luck.

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This is accurate. Azuria isn't to blame, so I wish everyone'd get off her back. As far as which NPC I'd kill? It'd probably be the Lichen-Infested War Walker, if I can pick it. Success or failure is so...binary. I can count on one hand the number of times I've been on a trial that got past him. The few that have just blasted right though him without even looking.
In case there is info there you (or others) do not know, this guide to defeating them might help.

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American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA

 

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A couple that haven't been mentioned yet:

Mr. Bocor. Pound salt, you arrogant creep. Solve your own stupid love problems. Think you'll "learn something valuable about me" when I shove your teeth and my fist down your throat?

Fire Wire--oh wait, I actually did that one.

And this far into the thread, nobody's mentioned Nemesis? Yeah, it'd make things dicey for Ouroboros, but is that justification enough to keep him?

 

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A couple that haven't been mentioned yet:

Mr. Bocor. Pound salt, you arrogant creep. Solve your own stupid love problems. Think you'll "learn something valuable about me" when I shove your teeth and my fist down your throat?
A villain/rogue tip that I forget the level range of actually makes it clear that Mr. Bocor was being entirely facetious when he said the woman he wanted kidnapped was somehow romantically involved with him. He actually wanted to use her as a ritual sacrifice to gain magical power. That's totally better, right?

 

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I kinda want to slap around the letter writer a bit, after finding out who he is there is no reason for him to have played the letter writing bit.

 

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And this far into the thread, nobody's mentioned Nemesis? Yeah, it'd make things dicey for Ouroboros, but is that justification enough to keep him?
Why would anyone kill off Nemesis? That guy is <worshipful comment not found.>

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Detective Becktrees. I just hate that insufferable smile.

 

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Abyss- for being a poser, not even living up to her end of the assignment, and still taking half of the money without my being able to even do anything about it.

Mender Tesseract- for being an arrogant "See You Next Tuesday" and PMS incarnate. In fact, I'm just going to call her Mender PMS from now on.

 

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The entire current Freedom Phalanx.

Not that I have anything against any of them personally, but for an arc called 'Who Will Die?', anything less than the full Blakes 7 ending just won't satisfy.

Heh, myself and one other person got that reference....might want to find something more contemporary, as great as that show was.


Though more to the point of the thread: I am wondering how many people responding that they'd kill whomever are playing Vigilantes and would be okay with whatever consequences came from doing so. Let's face it...Wade, regardless of what happens to him, isn't Mr. Popular right now for killing off the big guy. It's interesting how rather than reforming/imprisoning/restraining someone who's done evil that killing someone would be seen as the best alternative.

Reminds me of that old argument about if you had the chance to kill Hitler as a baby, would you....I know I couldn't, even regardless. Because crossing that line into murder (especially that of a child, regardless of what evil they will go on and do) brings you to their level because you've made that choice that it's justifiable.


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