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Originally Posted by Wavicle
MA and EM don't need AoEs.
The reason why: I know for a FACT there are some (bizarre) people out there who want to make toons with only single target attacks, and it's not so bad that there should be a couple of sets for those people. |
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And if MA and EM had a single AoE/Cone couldn't those people simply skip the offending power?
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No, because having to skip a power to fit a theme is apparently horrendously unacceptable to some people. Every power should be incredibly useful and fit the exact theme that they have in their heads and they should never have to ever compromise either the theme or performance because that's completely wrong and limiting, so we should get more power picks or free powers and more slots because they can't take all of the primary AND all of the secondary AND all of the power pool picks that they want to fit their theme, and while the devs are at it why don't we all get free ponies just for having an account too?
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Originally Posted by DMystic
And if MA and EM had a single AoE/Cone couldn't those people simply skip the offending power?
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But other sets with some AoE also have single target attacks. Those "bizarre" people can easily skip the aoe and take ST attack if they only want ST attack for some reasons? |
Originally Posted by Wavicle
MA and EM don't need AoEs.
The reason why: I know for a FACT there are some (bizarre) people out there who want to make toons with only single target attacks, and it's not so bad that there should be a couple of sets for those people. |
And it's not like Electricity's ST attack is that junk. Other sets have more options while MA and EM are so limited.
MA and EM's ST damage is only ahead by a small margin.
I really think they should re-evaluate sets that got their pbaoe taken out. They need to either make ST attacks more potent or make the other cone attack much better (IE Slice and Headsplitter having wider and longer reach).
What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
By MA they can replace that masive knockback kick with dragon tail MA has already to many ST attacks.
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Originally Posted by Siolfir
No, because having to skip a power to fit a theme is apparently horrendously unacceptable to some people. Every power should be incredibly useful and fit the exact theme that they have in their heads and they should never have to ever compromise either the theme or performance because that's completely wrong and limiting, so we should get more power picks or free powers and more slots because they can't take all of the primary AND all of the secondary AND all of the power pool picks that they want to fit their theme, and while the devs are at it why don't we all get free ponies just for having an account too?
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Originally Posted by Siolfir
No, because having to skip a power to fit a theme is apparently horrendously unacceptable to some people. Every power should be incredibly useful and fit the exact theme that they have in their heads and they should never have to ever compromise either the theme or performance because that's completely wrong and limiting, so we should get more power picks or free powers and more slots because they can't take all of the primary AND all of the secondary AND all of the power pool picks that they want to fit their theme, and while the devs are at it why don't we all get free ponies just for having an account too?
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Id rather they replaced the massive letdown of a kick (ie Thunder Kick) than Crane Kick.
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Originally Posted by Dizzy_Dazzler
By MA they can replace that masive knockback kick with dragon tail MA has already to many ST attacks.
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I really don't think the dev would take out any existing power in the power set now. They may re-order it (yes, I think they finally re-order Dimension Shift and Wormhole?).
I just don't think MA's ST damage is that superior. It is a bit better and that's it. It doesn't help that MA is all smashing damage (not as bad as Lethal).
What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
wouldn't street justice be a better choice if you want aoe then?
What I think IS possible is something similar to the following:
Make Stalker Eagle's Claw cause the next attack or two against the same target have a small aoe effect, or Eagle's Claw causes the next Storm Kick to be a small cone or aoe.
That accomplishes the goal of adding AoE without changing anything else about the set or the powers.
As for EM, I still think if they WANTED to add AoE, adding it to Energy Transfer is the way to go (and I kinda think they should make that change to ALL versions of Energy Transfer).
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It wasn't too long ago* that all versions of Energy Transfer were AoE. And it could kill tanks in one activation because for every target it hit, it would provide the self-damage.|
Originally Posted by Wavicle
As for EM, I still think if they WANTED to add AoE, adding it to Energy Transfer is the way to go (and I kinda think they should make that change to ALL versions of Energy Transfer).
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Something should be done for Energy Melee, across all Archetypes that have it, but I can't think of what.
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Originally Posted by Siolfir
No, because having to skip a power to fit a theme is apparently horrendously unacceptable to some people. Every power should be incredibly useful and fit the exact theme that they have in their heads and they should never have to ever compromise either the theme or performance because that's completely wrong and limiting, so we should get more power picks or free powers and more slots because they can't take all of the primary AND all of the secondary AND all of the power pool picks that they want to fit their theme, and while the devs are at it why don't we all get free ponies just for having an account too?
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Seriously though. Just increasing the speed slightly on a couple of the powers would make these more fun to play. And isn't that what its all about? Wouldn't need aoe if we could hit multiple targets in a reasonable time frame.
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OMG I so remember this. I remember my tank died more times to this form of assisted suicide than I did from regular mobs. I remember a respec trial where I was trying to save an empath from mobs but they were all stacked in one spot. I ended up 1 shotting myself and the empath still died.
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Originally Posted by MajorDecoy
It wasn't too long ago* that all versions of Energy Transfer were AoE. And it could kill tanks in one activation because for every target it hit, it would provide the self-damage.
Something should be done for Energy Melee, across all Archetypes that have it, but I can't think of what. *Issue 3, on a geologic time scale, was very recent indeed. |
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MA and EM don't need AoEs.
The reason why:
I know for a FACT there are some (bizarre) people out there who want to make toons with only single target attacks, and it's not so bad that there should be a couple of sets for those people.
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