For Pete's sake, fix this please!


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I know it was pointed out, at several points when Beam Rifle first came out in i21, that there were several weapon options for Beam Rifle that would work just as well for Robotics's Pulse Rifle, and that Beam Rifle could use the Rikti Blaster and Crey Weapons. A whole issue has gone by, without anybody fixing this, and that miffs me. Would somebody please address and remedy this before another issue goes by?


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I second this motion.


 

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I third this motion!


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I've been hating on Robotic's Pulse Rifle options ever since they started adding weapon customization to the costume creator. They've never had decent choices there and I'd be very surprised if they ever added any. Porting over the options they have for Beam Rifle would be a good start, but I'm not holding my breath. I gave up on this a long, long time ago.


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Does that ever do any good?


 

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Do you suppose we should start a petition?
Also against the rules.


 

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I have two stupid questions.

1. Are you sure the Beam Rifle and Pulse Rifle are held by the characters in the same way and won't cause clipping with simple ports?

2. Why are you people using Pulse Rifle attacks as a mastermind?


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2. Why are you people using Pulse Rifle attacks as a mastermind?
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2. Why are you people using Pulse Rifle attacks as a mastermind?
Because Beam Rifle didn't exist. And yes, I approve of combining Pulse Rifle and Beam Rifle options.


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2. Why are you people using Pulse Rifle attacks as a mastermind?
Because I need something to do while my Bots rampage and massacre things.

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Because I need something to do while my Bots rampage and massacre things.
This.

Also because: PEW! PEW! PEW! LAZERS!


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1. Are you sure the Beam Rifle and Pulse Rifle are held by the characters in the same way and won't cause clipping with simple ports?
The pose is slightly different, yes. But all the models that exist for the robotics pulse rifle also exist for beam rifle, minus a few unlockables, and the hands are in the same places on the weapon. The beam rifle pose just carries it a little higher.

Regarding those unlockables - crey rifles and rikti rifles available for beam rifle in return, please.


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Because I need something to do while my Bots rampage and massacre things.
Try using Povoke and whatever your secondary powerset is. Patron/Epics are also much more effective.


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Try using Povoke and whatever your secondary powerset is. Patron/Epics are also much more effective.
This does not address my irrefutable "PEW! PEW! PEW! LAZERS!" argument.


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...Unless you aren't level 35 yet. Then you're just SoL.
Ok, how the hell did I get Provoke and a secondary powerset before level 35?

More serious response: Please read what I typed the first time. Patron/Epic powers were the afterthought, not the main portion of the statement. You did a wonderful job of refuting a tenth of my argument, and for that I applaud you.

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This does not address my irrefutable "PEW! PEW! PEW! LAZERS!" argument.
I had no intentions of refuting your irrefutable argument, as it is irrefutable, as irrefutably stated in your statement of argument.

If you want to go "PEW! PEW! PEW! LAZERS!" then I have no way to say "you're doing it wrong."


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Because not everyone likes Tankerminding? I don't have provoke on Alpha. In fact, I would consider that a waste of damage and slotting. I slammed more recharge set bonuses in his attacks, and settle for toe-bombing mobs into dust. Works just fine for me.

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As a serious reply, I cannot count the number of times I've dropped a low health runner while my bots were otherwise occupied. I honestly cannot imagine playing Wrecking Gear without being able to shoot stuff. I think I actually have most of her attacks, too. I have a great deal of fun using my wide area web from the Mace Patron Pool (or whatever the hell it's called) and then hitting the whole group with a Photon Grenade while my bots unleash their lazery, flamey, missiley fury upon their immobilized butts. Not to mention the number of times it has saved me when my bots got bugged and stood there doing nothing while I got pounded on. I practically soloed all the last part of WWD 4 without my bots because they were bugged. I wouldn't have been able to do it with just my Nemesis Staff.


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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison View Post
Ok, how the hell did I get Provoke and a secondary powerset before level 35?

More serious response: Please read what I typed the first time. Patron/Epic powers were the afterthought, not the main portion of the statement. You did a wonderful job of refuting a tenth of my argument, and for that I applaud you.



I had no intentions of refuting your irrefutable argument, as it is irrefutable, as irrefutably stated in your statement of argument.

If you want to go "PEW! PEW! PEW! LAZERS!" then I have no way to say "you're doing it wrong."
Fair enough, but as Techbot stated, not everybody likes tankerminds.


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Because not everyone likes Tankerminding? I don't have provoke on Alpha. In fact, I would consider that a waste of damage and slotting. I slammed more recharge set bonuses in his attacks, and settle for toe-bombing mobs into dust. Works just fine for me.
I'd consider it a waste of endurance. When it comes to dealing damage with my MM, if I get a break between spamming provoke, caltrops, acid mortars and poison traps, I'll lay a trip mine. Trip mine for me recharges in 10 seconds before my Alpha slotting; slamming more recharge set bonuses into attacks I can't fit into a build won't help me any.

And no, I do not find Provoke and Trip Mine to be mutually exclusive.

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As a serious reply, I cannot count the number of times I've dropped a low health runner while my bots were otherwise occupied.
This I take care of with Nemesis Staff and Blackwand. They do the same damage for a mastermind as they would for a blaster, which is pretty huge, especially when compared to the piddly primary blasts. I don't find I need to do this any more often than the powers recharge.

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I have a great deal of fun using my wide area web from the Mace Patron Pool (or whatever the hell it's called) and then hitting the whole group with a Photon Grenade while my bots unleash their lazery, flamey, missiley fury upon their immobilized butts.
Ah, Mace Mastery, that explains a bit. That branch is terribly light on the damage. If you want to push out a bit more damage, look to Mu Mastery. The Electric Fences deal more damage than Photon Grenade and have the immobilize component (it is also the only AoE immobilize available with -kb to keep your bots from throwing things around). You lose out on the defense shield, though.

Soul Mastery is another good pick, as you will get two AoE attacks that do more damage than Photon Grenade. Both are cones, so you have to intelligently line them up, but again, one is an immobilize.

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Not to mention the number of times it has saved me when my bots got bugged and stood there doing nothing while I got pounded on. I practically soloed all the last part of WWD 4 without my bots because they were bugged. I wouldn't have been able to do it with just my Nemesis Staff.
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Fair enough, but as Techbot stated, not everybody likes tankerminds.
Alright, you're up to half of my statement. If your defense for "taking primary attacks" is "I need to keep busy," then my response will still be "What are you doing with your secondary powerset?"


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To the OP, as per the Ustream yesterday, I think there was some mention about this. So assuming my memory isn't that hazy.. hooray!


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"What are you doing with your secondary powerset?"
My secondary is Force Field so once I bubbled my bots I'm pretty much done. I like the rifle attacks better than the force field attacks and I can get the mobs attention well enough with photon grenade instead of using provoke.

As for Nemesis and Blackwand, they aren't always available (iTrials).

Oh and, PEW! PEW! PEW! LAZERS!


 

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You know, sometimes it just feels better to get a mob's attention by blasting them all with a photon grenade than merely shouting at them.

That's why I got both the pulse rifle attacks and provoke. I'll admit that in the middle of a fight, I'm too busy laying down caltrops and poison gas traps and whatever while also provoking the enemies to keep the aggro on me, but the allure of "pew pew lazers!" was just too seductive to not get those powers as well, lol.

Also, I outfitted Pulse Rifle Blast, Pulse Rifle Burst, and Photon Grenade with the Gladiator's Javelin, Apocalypse, and Ragnarok sets respectively. All at +5. And for no reason other than I wanted to. So there.

EDIT: On the other hand, my new robots/force field MM is not taking the pulse rifle attacks. This is purely for thematic reasons, just as it was for my robots/traps MM.