Counting the days...

...until I can roll my Dark Control/Dark Affinity Controller! Cant wait!! >_<

If only we could get an ETA on i22...

What about you? :P

Looking forward to it. I'm going dark/cold on my dark troller myself.

I will be making 4 dark controllers: dark/storm, dark/dark, dark/ff and dark/time.

I will also make fire/dark and illusion/dark controllers. Oh, and earth/dark.

I also plan a few dominators: fire/dark, dark/fire, dark/energy, earth/dark, and possibly dark/dark.

I also vaguely want to make dark/poison and dark/rad controllers, but I am making too many already.

Oh! And a staff/wp brute!

Lewis

Someone give Lewis a sedative, he's going into full blown Alt-Shock!

I'm thinking... Dark/Dark and maybe Gravity/Dark (siggy and fluffy in the same group yes please)

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You aren't alone! I have multiple (read: stacks and stacks) notebooks (large and small) and notepads (large and small) and piles of Mids printouts on my desk and on a file cabinet and even a stack on the floor of seven plus years of playing.

Looking forward to my Dark/Poison Controller. Probably going to be a late bloomer, but should be a fun ride.

Yeah, I really want Dark/Poison too. *sniff*

Dark/Dark possibly, really thinking about a Ill/dark and a Dark/Cold.

Also a Dark/Dark Dom and a Dark/TA .. or Plant/dark.... hmmmm

I'm thinking Dark/Storm could be a lot of fun. I am wondering, though, if any of Darkness Control's AoE controls have a -Knockback component (like a lot of the immobilize powers from other sets do), because that impacts its synergy with powers like Tornado.

Yeppers, can't wait for Dark and Staff to hit the live servers and just time for DBXP weekend.

Dark/Time for me. Of course then I get to learn how to actually play a controller

I've wanted Ill/Dark since I started in I3, but now that I've got an Ill/Time that I like, I'm going with Dark/Dark for a character concept I've had floating around for awhile.

MM,

What about Dark/Trick Arrow? Aren't you hardcore into /TA?

Thinking about the way all those controls would stack ... Things flopping in a burning oil slick whille phantoms and deathpuppy rip them up ... all those resist debuffs ... squee! Amirite?

Lewis

Did they fix the pet ai where it panics on a burning oil slick? I would think this would be a deal breaker for the dark pets...

Well, you can open at range, and then move in for some follow-up stun, and then just stay in close.

As for Dark Miasma, or Dark Affinity, I have had varied experiences as well. But when I think about the bad experiences, it is usually the *other* set that was the issue. I found dark/elec on a defender to be unsatisfying, but it was because of electdic blast. Played it to 50 but ... Yuck! I also dont like ninja masterminds very much, and sure enough, dark wasnt enough to save ninja for me. However, thugs/dark on a mastermind was a joy, and my dark/ice defender was much more pleasant to play than my dark/elec.

With that in mind, I think /dark affinity will be decent, even without the hold or fearsome stare. But I dont think it could redeem mind control, which I can never quite stomach for long. The only mind control character I ever really enjoyed was my mind/storm, and mostly because of storm. I think ice/darkaffinity would suck too, for me. It really takes *just* the right secondary for me to like mind, ice, or grav.

Lewis

Yeah, I'm pretty sure electric blast had a lot to do with it. And yeah I took her to 50 as well and almost never break her out. You are right though, with the right set it will probably be fine.

Yeah, Electric Blast kind of stinks for Defenders. But I pull out my Dark/Elec Defender anyway . . . because he is the original Local Man. And I can't really explain why I also made a Kin/Elec defender . . . well, I was trying to make a sapper. But Dark Miasma is a great set for a MM and for a corrupter. Fearsome Stare was too good for a Controller secondary, so I understand why it was removed. (In fact, for years when folks speculated on */Dark Controllers, I always suggested that Fearsome Stare would be a problem. Stacking Fearsome Stare with Terrify or Spectral Terror would be too much.)

I'm planning on doing a Dark/Dark, just to get both sets in one shot. I can see where Dark/Storm will be good -- but after having Ice/Storm, Ill/Storm, Grav/Storm and Earth/Storm, plus a Mind/Storm and a second Earth/Storm in the 40's, I think it is time to focus on a different secondary.

Dark/Poison? I can't stand the idea of rolling up a */Poison Controller after playing my Demons/Poison MM to 40 . . . I really dislike the secondary. I know it has some improvements for Controllers, but I don't see enough to make me go through that again.

I dont think they removed fearsome stare because of a concern that it would be too much power. Stacking two fears is less egregious than many things. The article that came out for it said that it suited the primary more, which means they probably wanted to avoid identical powers. Or maybe they do consider it too good, and wanted to focus only on constructive reasons. I still think it would be fine. But frankly, I wont miss it since I will have a primary (any primary) filled with control and a secondary filled with debuffs.

As for Poison ...

I think once you get the bitter taste out of your mouth you may want to revisit Poison. I used to loathe it on the masterminds I tried. But I feel that the Poison set is a lot like trick arrow, in that it is WAY better on a controller. Especially with the splash changes. With a control primary, the secondary is decent at keeping pets alive. Weaken and envenom will cripple opponents, and they recast quickly. Neurotoxic breath makes the enemies slower. When you get all these puzzle pieces working together, it can be quite nice. I like spreading slippery "you lose, I win" sauce all over a hearty casserole of control. I eat it right up. You should too. Well, after you get past that first bad run.

Lewis