Police Mastermind

I had an idea for a PPD Mastermind the other day while talking to a bunch of people on Justice about something I can't adequately recall. Rather than continue on a tangent, let's just get into the powers ideas

* The weapon for this set would be a shotgun (slug, buckshot, beanbag).

* Minion level pets would be the SWAT team minions going in order from basic SWAT to Stealth SWAT to traps SWAT (I honestly can't remember their names).

* Lieutenant level pets would be a PPD Psi Cop and a Peacebringer cop.

* Boss level pet would be a PPD Hardsuit.

* Upgrade one would add various AoE powers (frag grenades, psychic scream, etc.), upgrade two would add the more unique powers for each pet (Heavy Burst for the SWAT, Sniper Rifle for the Ghost, Glue Grenade for the Equalizer [Yes, I remembered their names mid-post and don't feel like going back to fix it]; Drain Psyche for the Psi Cop, Nova form for the Peacebringer; Heavy laser burst for the Hardsuit and/or full auto)

* Tier 7 power is up in the air in my head - It could be a Gang War-style power (Riot Deployment - summons a bunch of PPD officers with clubs and riot shields). It could also be like Serum (Superior Firepower - PBAoE Damage/To Hit buff). Or, it could be something out of left field, like a toggle power (Riot Phalanx - Def/Res buff for nearby pets).

All of this is open for nitpicking and suggestions. By all means, pick this idea to shreds, provided you provide some manner of thread to patch it up in the form of other ideas

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Originally Posted by Venture I'd never use a nuke in a superhero universe. You nuke a city, you kill 1.5 million people minus one. The last guy not only gets superpowers from the explosion, but ones that let him survive a nuke...and wow, is he torqued off

So basically Mercs with different costumes. /unsigned

I don't see that. There is a large variety of powers across the PPD. Really, the only part of this that is like Mercs is the minion level, which in and of itself differentiates itself really quickly. That said, if you have some thought that could further differentiate it, by all means speak up!

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Originally Posted by Venture I'd never use a nuke in a superhero universe. You nuke a city, you kill 1.5 million people minus one. The last guy not only gets superpowers from the explosion, but ones that let him survive a nuke...and wow, is he torqued off

I'm all for a more 'heroic' themed MM set... since you can start out as a hero MM and all...

What I'd ultimately like to see is selections of model skins made available in the power customization screen. I think I'd like to see Police or SWAT models made available as a customized selection for both Mercs and Thugs. I think having a selection of model choices in the drop-downs could work for all MM sets. No need to adjust any of the powers themselves, just give the player a choice of which model they'd like to use for that particular summon power.

Oh...to make Stansfield....

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Variety is the spice of life!

I am known as Remaugen and I approve of this idea!

Knowing as we do, how much work is required for new MM primaries, I'd have to be strongly oppossed to this.

I'd much rather that time and money be spent finally getting us, if even limited, customization for pets. That way you could have a PPD themed Merc MM. Or a Longbow themed Thug MM, etc.

Even if true customizing is out of the question, ie getting to actually create the individual pets looks ourselves, I'd love to be able to pick between various skins for the pets like we can now with weapons.

Okay, so the main complaint I'm seeing here is that this is another "Guys with Guns" set. I suppose this is a valid complaint. For the minion level pets, which are SWAT guys. Neither of the Lieutenant level pets have guns of any description. I suppose the boss would have the built in minigun that Hardsuits use. And lasers. Lots of lasers. And the Energy Melee punchy powers.

From my perspective, the idea of this set is to provide a larger variety of outgoing damage than most, if not all, of the other MM primaries.

All of this said, I wouldn't be opposed to having multiple selectable "bodies" for MM pets (Longbow, PPD, Family, etc. for Mercs; Hellions, Skulls, Warriors, etc. for Thugs; Tsoo, old Chimera ninjas, etc. for Ninjas)

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Originally Posted by Venture I'd never use a nuke in a superhero universe. You nuke a city, you kill 1.5 million people minus one. The last guy not only gets superpowers from the explosion, but ones that let him survive a nuke...and wow, is he torqued off

Something I keep thinking is how is it the devs are to make more MM primaries if they each have to resort to a different weapon system...


Anyway, Police Mastermind seems like a pretty cool idea. So /sign. But, I also agree that customizeable pets and female mastermind minions take higher priority.

Got here from a sig.

Cops, huh.

This immediately makes me think of the Rogue Isles Police, which even at the lowest levels had Leadership auras.

I think those should be moves that they have on auto. Tier 1 has Assault, Tier 2 has Tactics, Tier 3 has Manuevers, as a 'for instance'. Looking at the Wiki, most of the higher-ups in PPD work so. If you wanted to be interesting, let one of the upgrades unlock a minion-only Vengeance. One goes down, the rest get stronger.

I'm looking at the Wiki, and I'm not convinced that a Peacebringer as Lieutenant-grade works.

Actually, that could be the answer to your Tier 7 worries. Request Backup. Calls out several Drones, Psi-Ops, and Kheldians. In contrast to Gang War, these are high-quality and durable summons for the time they last. Random selection?

...O.k, drop the Hardsuits, have them also be summoned by Tier 7. Let your standard summons be your bog-standard police, Swats, and Captains. Let's give the boys in blue things like Tough and Weave as upgrade powers in general. Maybe Aid Other and/or Aid Self. What we want to go for is quality and self-support.

Tier 1: Cops/Undercover/Detectives, randomly.
Tier 2: 1xSwat Ghost, 1x Swat Equalizer.
Tier 3: Captain. Let him keep the 'Summon Cops' to replace your fallen minions.

For what it's worth, I'm completely fine with this, even if it is just "Mercs with different skins".

When they're set passive and idle, they can all go into the "eat donut" animation.

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showt...ight=SWAT+team

I've already posted an idea similar to this.