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Discussion: New Tier 9 VIP Paragon Reward: Fire and Ice Costume Set now available!

Ael Rhiana

By Ael Rhiana,
Posted on: 2012-01-10 10:08 in News, Events and Announcement Discussion

 

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Originally Posted by AmazingMOO View Post
No Flappy option for Phoenix wings? What gives? Can you not use the same rig that's in use for the Celestial wings?
The Celestial wings don't flap, either.

 

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Well I missed the celestial set. There's no way outside of shelling out the cash right now which I do not have to grab the Celestial set. Well, time to wait until it cycles over.

I would have it if you got the reward tokens in advance for multi-month subscriptions however.

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Originally Posted by GPBunny View Post
Why no flame like shield?
For what it's worth, there already is a fire shield; it's one of the elemental shield options.

 

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Originally Posted by IAmTheRad View Post
Well I missed the celestial set. There's no way outside of shelling out the cash right now which I do not have to grab the Celestial set. Well, time to wait until it cycles over.

I would have it if you got the reward tokens in advance for multi-month subscriptions however.
No you haven't.
Both sets are available as options.

Think that I read that Celestial will remain until what ever comes next comes.

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Originally Posted by Zombie Man View Post
It's not a rig. It's animation. Frame-by-frame hand-drawn (computer-assisted) animations. You're asking for about a minute's worth of hand drawn animation with sequences coded to go off depending on the toon's positional status.
I guess I should have been more exact there. The celestial wings have an option to open or close depending on if you're in an aerial animation or not. I cannot see a reason why the The animation bones, key frames and tween frames of said animation cannot be applied to the Phoenix wings without any changes.

 

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Originally Posted by GPBunny View Post
Why no Fire bow?
Why no Ice Axe?
Why no flame like shield?

Please include a costum piece for each melee weapon, and those that fit the theme.
Shield already has a Fire and Ice option that are similar to what is in this new pack.

The other melee weapons are not being represented well. Broadsword, Dual Blades and Mace have a lot of options. Axe is lagging and Katana and Claws get the least options. Even when completely obvious opportunities are available, they aren't taken.

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              Broad    Dual   Katana   Mace    Axe   Claws   Shield
Martial Arts   YES     YES     YES     NO      NO     NO      NO
Mutant         YES     YES     NO      NO      NO     NO      NO
Rikti          YES     YES     YES     NO      YES    NO      NO
Vanguard       YES     YES     YES     NO      YES    YES     YES
Rularuu        YES     YES     YES     YES     YES    YES     YES
Valkyrie       YES     YES     NO      NO      NO     NO      NO
Roman          YES     NO      NO      NO      YES    NO      YES
Celestial      YES     YES     NO      YES     YES    NO      NO
Barbarian      YES     NO      NO      YES     YES    NO      NO
Fire/Ice       YES     YES?    YES?    YES     NO     NO      n/a
Not counting this pack, the totals of the unique models currently available for each one are even worse.

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       Broad    Dual   Katana   Mace    Axe   Claws   Shield
Total   24       27       9      20     14     10      30

For crying out loud, you made these things:



And neglected to make a Mutant Claw option. Come on!


As a Claws Fanboy, I'm feeling very ignored.

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Originally Posted by AmazingMOO View Post
I guess I should have been more exact there. The celestial wings have an option to open or close depending on if you're in an aerial animation or not. I cannot see a reason why the The animation bones, key frames and tween frames of said animation cannot be applied to the Phoenix wings without any changes.
Yeah it would have been nice if these new phoenix wings had at least the same two options that the celestial ones do. It's not too bad with the phoenix wings while flying but when I'm standing on the ground I feel like I'm wearing some kind of elaborate plumage like a Brazilian carnival dancer.

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The other weapons are not being represented well. Broadsword, Dual Blades and Mace have a lot of options. Axe is lagging and Katana and Claws get the least options. Even when completely obvious opportunities are available, they aren't taken.
Rifles, pistols, bows...

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As a Claws Fanboy, I'm feeling very ignored.
And even you ignored ranged weapons.



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Originally Posted by Snow Globe View Post
Rifles, pistols, bows...


And even you ignored ranged weapons.

The post I replied to specifically mentioned melee weapons and that's what I wanted to talk about.

but just for you,

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              Rifle    Rifle   Rifle Pistol
            Assault    Pulse   Beam   Dual    Bow       
All Super 
  Boosters     NO       NO      NO     NO     NO
Rikti          NO       YES     NO     NO     NO
Nemesis        YES      NO      NO     NO     NO
Family         YES      NO      NO     NO     NO
Council        YES      NO      NO     NO     NO
Crey           NO       YES     NO     NO     NO
Vanguard       YES      NO      YES    NO     YES
Praetorian     NO       NO      YES    NO     NO
Rularuu        NO       NO      NO     NO     YES
Steampunk      YES      YES     YES    YES     NO
Celestial      YES      YES     YES    YES     NO
Fire/Ice       NO       NO      NO     NO     NO
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       Assault    Pulse   Beam   Dual    Bow 
Total     14       7       12    23      8
And yes, there looks to be plenty of overlap where things could be ported.

My apologies for any inaccuracies

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Originally Posted by IanTheM1 View Post
I dig the fact file pics, but why are some parts showing up in both? I have no idea whether it's Fire or Ice that comes with the crystalline parts.
They can be used on both, including the arm.

One point buys all the fire stuff, another buys the ice stuff.

the third point buys the arms, weapons, wings, tail, belt, chest detail. These are usable with all the other parts.


Oh, and the helmet looks like crap. The rest look pretty good.

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Originally Posted by IanTheM1 View Post
So, for instance (though I don't know the exact names), Fire Boots 2 and Ice Boots 2 are effectively identical (or at least darn close)? The Robotic Arm 3 pieces are all entirely separate.
yeah, the fire and ice are handled as textures on a few parts.

boot 1: flat boot
boot 2: knee pad
boot 3: crystal knee pad

all of those can have a fire texture or an ice one.

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The phoenix wings and tail are very cool looking, but the wings don't flap. With the celestial set we have wings that flap and wings that don't. Could we get this for the fire wings? The lack of continuity between costume sets is mind boggling.

The elemental swords are pretty sweet too. I like the one that looks like actual fire. The one that looks like jagged lava doesn't really look like a sword, more like a club, but its okay.

The waterfall backpack is very cool! I would like to see a wider version of this for a cape option!!! And the caldera backpack is cool too. I am glad to see new stuff like this coming out.


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Originally Posted by Stupid_Fanboy View Post
yeah, the fire and ice are handled as textures on most parts.
Just to list them:

Face: 2 separate pieces
hat: 2 separate pieces
Robotic Arm 3: 3 separate pieces (fire, ice, crystal)
chest: 2 separate pieces
pants: 2 separate pieces

glove 1: flat, 2 textures
glove 2: padded, 2 textures
glove 3: padded crystal, 2 textures
shoulders 1: basic, 2 textures
shoulders 2: crystals sticking out of basic, 2 textures
boot 1: flat, 2 textures
boot 2: padded, 2 textures
boot 3: padded crystal, 2 textures

belt: 1 piece, 2 textures
chest detail: 1 piece, 2 textures

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oh, and I'm not sure if this is a bug or not, but the accent colors and crystals glow on all the pieces except for the robotic arm3 pieces. No glowing there.

Also, another chest detail option with more crystals would have been nice!

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Originally Posted by AmazingMOO View Post
I guess I should have been more exact there. The celestial wings have an option to open or close depending on if you're in an aerial animation or not. I cannot see a reason why the The animation bones, key frames and tween frames of said animation cannot be applied to the Phoenix wings without any changes.
The celestial wings fold down when not in flight, like a hand fan, instead of folding in the way you would expect "real" wings to. I'm not at all convinced you could simply apply the same motion to the Phoenix wings and have it look like anything you'd want to use.

 

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The person who does the concept art/design for these is amazing and I am entirely jealous that I'm still fairly far from tier 9 haha. Great designs, and love what they add to CoH.
I have...at least 18 months to go. Glad to see all these neat parts comin' out though, and I'm really looking forward to more (as per these suggestions!)

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Originally Posted by Quantum_Shield View Post
Can anyone confirm if/when Celestial will be removed?
The Celestial set will be removed when the set of Tier 9 VIP rewards come out. So 3-6 months. The developers have said they will come back at a later date though.



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Originally Posted by Stupid_Fanboy View Post
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LOVE the fire sword- is there a TW version? There really should be...

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LOVE the fire sword- is there a TW version? There really should be...
There is.

 

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Well I got a look at the new costume parts for the Fire & Ice set. I know that I am going against the grain here.. but I am not that much of a fan. Everything seems very clunky, the only piece that I was moderately interested in at all were maybe the phoenix wings, but they don't fold like the other wings. Even the Celestial version of wings has a "wing span" version. while the shape is great for them, they look like cardboard.

Don't get me wrong. I am a HUGE FAN of costume pieces. The latest additions of the gunslinger stuff, Circle of Thorns stuff, even the Barbarian stuff has been top notch! They've also feel as if they were more detailed than what this set was. I only spent ONE token because there was nothing else that I liked. And I am confused. It says that the Celestial stuff will be cycled out when Tier 9 VIP rewards are released.. I thought the Fire & Ice set WAS a tier 9 vip reward intended to take it's place?

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ice parts look like snow... hum... not very heroic... as the first version of the xman iceman... it s ugly, sorry... ice is sharp,transparent... not smooth, opaque...

 

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ice parts look like snow... hum... not very heroic... as the first version of the xman iceman... it s ugly, sorry... ice is sharp,transparent... not smooth, opaque...
Depends upon how the ice was formed and whether or not there's any mineral content to the water as well as air bubbles. Ice from my fridge ice maker tends to come out cloudy and opaque, due to the fact the water comes from well water with a significant dissolved solids factor. Hailstones can also be rounded, not just spiky.