What is Dominatrix's Job?
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Arcanaville,
Posted on: 2012-01-03 21:28 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
hm, if the lore I've seen is correct, her job is...
Mistress.
Number one girlfriend.
Head of Cole's Harem.
But, then again, I could be wrong.
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Not sure we can talk about it here on the forums. The game is rated T after all.
According to her background she serves Tyrant in "all capacities", so it sounds like she's basically an intern.
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I think that "personal assistant" covers it pretty well.
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Originally Posted by DarkGob
According to her background she serves Tyrant in "all capacities", so it sounds like she's basically an intern.
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Ever since Marauder got booted to Lambda Sector, Dominatrix has gotten the prestigious job of guarding the Magisterium. Bet on fighting her before we can get to Cole.
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For those who may not fully understand, Dominatrix is Tyrant's granddaughter... I'm not sure the lore guys thought her through very well. She's kind of a hush-hush secret that we avoid talking about to keep the T rating intact.
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That particular bit was either retconned with Going Rogue, or is just not mentioned anymore. Here's her in-game bio:|
Originally Posted by Combat
For those who may not fully understand, Dominatrix is Tyrant's granddaughter... I'm not sure the lore guys thought her through very well. She's kind of a hush-hush secret that we avoid talking about to keep the T rating intact.
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| Being the daughter of a famous and universally loved super heroine never sat well with Dominatrix. She rebelled from a very early age and when she hit puberty and her powers kicked in she decided enough was enough. After killing her mother, the infamous Miss Liberty, she started making a name for herself. She caught Tyrant's attention and has been serving him loyally, in all capacities, ever since. |
As for her job? Judging by Anti-Matter and Neuron, I'd say "Official Pot-Stirrer"
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I always thought of her as the one that would interrogate prisoners. Administer torture, drugs, whatever to get the information needed.
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I think that's Chimera's job - he's the head of the secret police.
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Originally Posted by Ultimus
I always thought of her as the one that would interrogate prisoners. Administer torture, drugs, whatever to get the information needed.
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@Golden Girl
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She's mentioned in-game as being Tyrant's granddaughter.
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Originally Posted by Goliath Bird Eater
Of course, we don't even know if the Praetorian Miss Liberty is Marcus Cole's daughter. Dominatrix is a gravity controller, so it's not as if we can infer bloodline based upon her powers.
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@Golden Girl
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I don't think he could possibly manage to torture all the prisoners himself. He must surely delegate some of that to others (hence the PPD bosses called Interrogators, presumably). Dominatrix as a torturer seems fitting, whether she works directly with Chimera or not.|
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
I think that's Chimera's job - he's the head of the secret police.
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But overall I imagine her job more as Cole's assistant, like you said.
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Where? I cannot remember at all where it was mentioned.
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
She's mentioned in-game as being Tyrant's granddaughter.
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Positron: "There are no bugs [in City of Heroes], just varying degrees of features."
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Dunno about in game but I'm almost positive it's mentioned in the comics they made (though the other aspects are not). What IS illustrated is how similar Miss Liberty is compared to Dominatrix, since her and the Vindicators have to look after ol' Dommie for a while on Statesman's behalf...
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Originally Posted by Goliath Bird Eater
Where?
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I couldn't agree more.
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She's so perverted, I think that she'd do it more as a "hobby" and a form of sick entertianment.
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Originally Posted by Hopeling
I don't think he could possibly manage to torture all the prisoners himself. He must surely delegate some of that to others (hence the PPD bosses called Interrogators, presumably). Dominatrix as a torturer seems fitting, whether she works directly with Chimera or not.
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@Golden Girl
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The bio you quoted is her old pre-GR one - her new one says:|
Originally Posted by Goliath Bird Eater
Where? I cannot remember at all where it was mentioned.
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| "Being the powered grand-daughter of Emperor Cole has its perks. Praetor Duncan trains new Powers Division recruits while at the same time stringing Anti-Matter along, as if he ever had a chance to be with a woman of her stature." |
@Golden Girl
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Uh....Dommie is the Praet Ms Liberty. She has the same lineage. Libby is States Granddaughter. It's also mentioned in her new bio.|
Originally Posted by Goliath Bird Eater
Where? I cannot remember at all where it was mentioned.
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And yeah, she's basically Powers Trainer and 'Lookit me, I'm granddaughter to the freaking Emperor, whatcha going to do?'
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ugh...I'd rather not, she's nothing but a annoyance.
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Originally Posted by TheDeepBlue
Ever since Marauder got booted to Lambda Sector, Dominatrix has gotten the prestigious job of guarding the Magisterium. Bet on fighting her before we can get to Cole.
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Wow, I *did* miss that, and I've even read her trainer bio before. Guess I just really didn't care enough to commit it to memory. Also, her wiki article needs to be updated.
Positron: "There are no bugs [in City of Heroes], just varying degrees of features."
Dominatrix is also the one behind the Destroyers, the suppliers of 'Dyne in Praetoria.
Really, she is a 'Pot-Stirrer' and nothing more - yet.
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Originally Posted by Wavicle
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I think what was actually retconned in GR was the "serves Tyrant in all capacities" part.
As I recall it, when the Praetorians were added in Issue 1, Ms. Liberty was not Statesman's granddaughter. A retcon made her his granddaughter when his backstory was fleshed out for CoV, Maria Jenkins was changed from Maiden Justice to Madame Danger, and Statesman was connected to Lord Recluse by making Maiden Justice Recluse's sister and Statesman's wife, and Miss Liberty their daughter.
Edit: Heh, I found an archived copy of the thread where that came to light. I was apparently the first person to notice the Tyrant/Dominatrix problem (on the forums, anyway). Check the bottom of the page, right after Manticore explains that Ms. Liberty is now Statesman's granddaughter.
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Originally Posted by TremDei
What is Dominatrix's Job?
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Originally Posted by Liquid
As I recall it, when the Praetorians were added in Issue 1, Ms. Liberty was not Statesman's granddaughter. A retcon made her his granddaughter when his backstory was fleshed out for CoV, Maria Jenkins was changed from Maiden Justice to Madame Danger, and Statesman was connected to Lord Recluse by making Maiden Justice Recluse's sister and Statesman's wife, and Miss Liberty their daughter.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
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I fully believe that there is a story bible. That being said, it's not like it's written in stone--they can add things to it. I have reason to believe that the Council and Arachnos (and Recluse and his backstory with Statesman) are two of the things that were added to it post-release content (meaning, after they finished the Issue 0 content, but not necessarily after release, as they do work ahead now, and may have worked ahead then as well).
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
Ouch... I was not aware of this. I guess so much for Jack Emmert's "story bible," eh?
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What's the point of having a story bible if you keep writing into it and never actually read from it, though? I get the feeling that Jack was referring to the body content that Rick Dakan and his team came up with in pre-production way back when when he talked about a "Story Bible," but I don't get the feeling that either Jack or Matt actually used much from it. As I said in my thread about stories that could be picked up on, it seems like there's almost never any callback to old content and to a greater persistent world such as might be described in a story bible. While such a thing may or may not exist, it doesn't seem like it's being used.
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Originally Posted by Liquid
I fully believe that there is a story bible. That being said, it's not like it's written in stone--they can add things to it. I have reason to believe that the Council and Arachnos (and Recluse and his backstory with Statesman) are two of the things that were added to it post-release content (meaning, after they finished the Issue 0 content, but not necessarily after release, as they do work ahead now, and may have worked ahead then as well).
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
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I don't know if it was originally called that or not, but yeah, I think that is what was being referred to as the Story Bible. It could be a mass of digital documents, a 3 ring binder, or stacks of note-paper, but that content that Rick Dakan wrote is what I think they are talking about. And I think it was expanded by later writers (like Sean Fish and whoever else was doing CoV writing, and very likely Hero 1 for the GR Praetorian stuff).|
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
What's the point of having a story bible if you keep writing into it and never actually read from it, though? I get the feeling that Jack was referring to the body content that Rick Dakan and his team came up with in pre-production way back when when he talked about a "Story Bible,"
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| but I don't get the feeling that either Jack or Matt actually used much from it. As I said in my thread about stories that could be picked up on, it seems like there's almost never any callback to old content and to a greater persistent world such as might be described in a story bible. While such a thing may or may not exist, it doesn't seem like it's being used. |
I've also heard that the story bible itself has some contradictions and inconsistencies in it, though I don't remember where I heard that. It was probably at one of the conventions.
I think most everything we've seen recently relating to GR is brand new, though.
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Honestly, this kind of bothers me. I know I espouse the virtues of writing "our own characters" as being a major selling point of the game, but I kind of thing this should be restricted to players doing it, not the game's official writers and developers. While I don't really mind other players making characters that, if they were placed in a common situation, would infringe on mine. After all, we're the stars of our own personal stories. But when it comes to developers pedalling their own characters, that strikes a foul note with me, and if I ever disliked the Statesman as a character, it was very likely because he came off like Jack Emmert's Mary Sue author insert. Not a good thing for your game's poster child.|
Originally Posted by Liquid
I understand your feelings. I think it's been used (especially for the release content, which is thick with connections between groups and arcs), but not always, and sometimes not well. I think new writers are probably more interested in creating new lore than taking the stuff Rick wrote back in 2001-2003 and bringing it to life. I suppose it's also possible that the interesting stuff he wrote back then is tapped out, though I'm hoping that the writers for the Dark Astoria revamp went back to it for reference. We'll see.
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Matt Miller seems to embrace a practice of letting writers write their own stuff at the expense of shelving what might otherwise be legitimately interesting story angles, just for the sake of letting them write their own fiction. Well... At some point or another, I feel all writers should be forced to write for someone else's fiction. This means they'd have to research said fiction, research said style and research the characters inherent in it, as opposed to just free-handing everything and warping the storyline to fit every whim. Especially as someone who's getting paid to do this, even in part, writing for someone else's fiction at least some of the time ought to be mandatory. It's good for the game and it reigns writers in a bit more so they don't let a ridiculous story run away with them.
Maybe Rick Dakan's work has been tapped out, but I honestly doubt it. A lot of it still has interesting angles to it, and whether Rick himself expanded on these or not, our current writers can and really should do it. No, it's not their baby and no, it's not their own story, but not every story we write has to be. People have been writing fan fiction for years and years, and some of it is very good. Hell, most "expanded universe" books are pretty much fan fiction the original creators allowed.
Basically, I would really hate to have good story angles abandoned completely because "old stuff is old." Yes, Dark Astoria has the potential to return to some of the game's oldest factions and stories... If our writers want to go that route. Because it also has the potential to completely bastardise and reinvent who Lughebu is and what the Banished Pantheon stand for by ret-conning everything with the Well of the Furries.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
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Okay, I've been thinking about the Praetorians, and how each one has a use in Emperor Cole's regime.
Marauder is the head of Powers Division.
Mother Mayhem is in charge of the BAF, and the Seers.
Chimera is head of Intelligence.
Neuron and Anti-Matter are in charge of all the Tech.
But Dominatrix? Does she have any purpose beyond being a Trainer in the Magisterium? Her counterpart, Ms. Liberty, is also in charge of Longbow/Freedom Corps.
Just random wondering. Not all who wonder are lost.